A petition to Viz and Toei regarding the new HD masters

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ChibiBoi

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Jan 2, 2010
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#21
MrShoujo said:
It would be nice for VIZ to get the new masters, that way the colors would be fixed. The sample image from the VIZ content is just too overly pink and there's no reason for that.
Color correction could've easily been done. And also all the flaws that were supposedly in the masters they were given could've easily been fixed if they knew how to handle their crap LOL and don't get me started on the flaws introduced in their Sailor Moon R releases we see on iTunes and Hulu
 

KAKERU

Lapis Lunaris
Nov 3, 2010
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#22
ChibiBoi said:
MrShoujo said:
It would be nice for VIZ to get the new masters, that way the colors would be fixed. The sample image from the VIZ content is just too overly pink and there's no reason for that.
Color correction could've easily been done. And also all the flaws that were supposedly in the masters they were given could've easily been fixed if they knew how to handle their crap LOL and don't get me started on the flaws introduced in their Sailor Moon R releases we see on iTunes and Hulu
I completely agree with you, it could have been easily fixed. Their attempt to fix the flaws ended up introducing even more flaws. :|
 
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#23
I guess the petition wasn't needed. It appears that Madman have been forced to put their releases on hold, and since Viz have yet to make any announcements about R Part 1 (they said that they would've by now), I think that it's safe to say that Viz are being forced to put theirs on hold, as well.
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#24
flash over said:
I guess the petition wasn't needed. It appears that Madman have been forced to put their releases on hold, and since Viz have yet to make any announcements about R Part 1 (they said that they would've by now), I think that it's safe to say that Viz are being forced to put theirs on hold, as well.
Yay, now we have to wait even longer for more Sailor Moon, I'm so happy. :|
 

TESTAMENT

Lapis Lunaris
May 12, 2014
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#25
Oh come on Welshy, Gary Glitter will be out of jail by the time we can watch Sailor Moon.

As for the Madman release, I really hope they get the best quality.....quality is the only reason I haven't invested in the Viz dub.
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#26
Hypno said:
Oh come on Welshy, Gary Glitter will be out of jail by the time we can watch Sailor Moon.

As for the Madman release, I really hope they get the best quality.....quality is the only reason I haven't invested in the Viz dub.
Look I know there are people who care about the quality, but what about those that don't care and just want these things released, as soon as possible?

Seriously though, if these DVD's have been delayed because of videophile complaints, I'm going to be very angry.
 

Ami Mizuno

Lapis Lunaris
Apr 15, 2007
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#27
Yet there is one question no one is wiling to think of Toei could have giving them bad copies. I mean Toei was already being difficult. Could it be that Toei wanted it to keep it to themselves? That have been knew to that
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#28
Ami Mizuno said:
Yet there is one question no one is wiling to think of Toei could have giving them bad copies. I mean Toei was already being difficult. Could it be that Toei wanted it to keep it to themselves? That have been knew to that
To be honest, I don't care what the case was. I'm just hoping now that these delays are due to technical reasons. Rather than complaints about the detail of a car's tyre in the far background is missing.
 

TESTAMENT

Lapis Lunaris
May 12, 2014
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#29
SailorWelshy said:
Hypno said:
Oh come on Welshy, Gary Glitter will be out of jail by the time we can watch Sailor Moon.

As for the Madman release, I really hope they get the best quality.....quality is the only reason I haven't invested in the Viz dub.
Look I know there are people who care about the quality, but what about those that don't care and just want these things released, as soon as possible?

Seriously though, if these DVD's have been delayed because of videophile complaints, I'm going to be very angry.
Oh I bet they are.....oh well, at least it will stop people complaining I guess.
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#30
Hypno said:
SailorWelshy said:
Hypno said:
Oh come on Welshy, Gary Glitter will be out of jail by the time we can watch Sailor Moon.

As for the Madman release, I really hope they get the best quality.....quality is the only reason I haven't invested in the Viz dub.
Look I know there are people who care about the quality, but what about those that don't care and just want these things released, as soon as possible?

Seriously though, if these DVD's have been delayed because of videophile complaints, I'm going to be very angry.
Oh I bet they are.....oh well, at least it will stop people complaining I guess.
So basically, we bullied a group of people (who are Sailor Moon fans as well) and kept on telling them they were doing a terrible job.

And now causal fans can't entertain themselves or even their children with Sailor Moon.

Yay, us. :|
 

TESTAMENT

Lapis Lunaris
May 12, 2014
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#31
SailorWelshy said:
So basically, we bullied a group of people (who are Sailor Moon fans as well) and kept on telling them they were doing a terrible job.

Yay, us. :|
We, as in us, never said anything....no one here really did, it was more on Twitter.

Plus I don't think those Viz higher ups really care for Sailor Moon......Justin Sevakiss and his comments would be a good example.
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#32
Hypno said:
Plus I don't think those Viz higher ups really care for Sailor Moon......Justin Sevakiss and his comments would be a good example.
If they didn't care for it, then why would they go to the bother releasing it on DVD and Blu-Ray then, as well as giving us a new English dub and their own remastering? None of that is cheap you know.

This Justin person might not like it, but I think he cares enough to know that Sailor Moon would make VIZ loads of money.
 

Ami Mizuno

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Apr 15, 2007
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#33
You do know they spent lot of money just to get it right? Also you forget Naoko does have a big part in the redub she picked the new English actors and actresses. She has a lot say in the redub. If they didn't care they would nothave agreed Naoko's or Toei. Also Toei could just be the ones to give them a bad copy. Toei keeps saying they lost the good copies and the now they are remastering them with a new copy. So, Viz could be trying to get these. We have to be thankful for the fact Viz was willing to pay so much and agree to so much. Not only to Toei but to Naoko herself
 
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#34
Ami Mizuno said:
If they didn't care they would nothave agreed Naoko's or Toei.
Naoko Takeuchi does not allow ANYTHING Sailor Moon to be done without her permission. It was in Viz's contract that they have to do everything by her, from voice actor approvals to how they handle lyric translations (it was her order that "Gomen-ne" remain intact in Moonlight Densetsu). Viz just used that to their advantage so that they can get us swooning over the fact that Naoko was involved.
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#35
flash over said:
Ami Mizuno said:
If they didn't care they would nothave agreed Naoko's or Toei.
Naoko Takeuchi does not allow ANYTHING Sailor Moon to be done without her permission. It was in Viz's contract that they have to do everything by her, from voice actor approvals to how they handle lyric translations (it was her order that "Gomen-ne" remain intact in Moonlight Densetsu). Viz just used that to their advantage so that they can get us swooning over the fact that Naoko was involved.
The point still stands. VIZ still care for their product, as evidenced by the new dub, their remaster and releasing the anime on DVD and Blu-Ray, which as I pointed out, is not cheap.
 

Ami Mizuno

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Apr 15, 2007
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#36
flash over said:
Ami Mizuno said:
If they didn't care they would nothave agreed Naoko's or Toei.
Naoko Takeuchi does not allow ANYTHING Sailor Moon to be done without her permission. It was in Viz's contract that they have to do everything by her, from voice actor approvals to how they handle lyric translations (it was her order that "Gomen-ne" remain intact in Moonlight Densetsu). Viz just used that to their advantage so that they can get us swooning over the fact that Naoko was involved.

Naoko got involved because she didn't really like how the old dub handle it. Also Moonlight Densetsu was not Naoko's doing but the original songwriter had rights to that song. I think you are kinda of taking it the wrong way. For one Viz wants to respect Naoko and two they paid a lot of money.
 

Iantuition

Lapis Lunaris
Nov 17, 2014
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#37
I know it's old but I don't see how y'all are acting like Viz is doing us such a great favor out of the goodness of their hearts by giving us PULCHRITUDINOUS materials trying to make a profit off of it. Bolded because that is the key word. PROFIT.

[edited by knm for language]
 

Ami Mizuno

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Apr 15, 2007
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#38
Question what if Viz is using what Toei give them? Clearly none of us are going to know what go on but still Toei has been a difficult company to deal with. So we just have to wait and see if things will be better.

Iantuition said:
I know it's old but I don't see how y'all are acting like Viz is doing us such a great favor out of the goodness of their hearts by giving us PULCHRITUDINOUS materials trying to make a profit off of it. Bolded because that is the key word. PROFIT.
That PULCHRITUDINOUS material was giving to them by Toei. So now that Toei released a master that they didn't give Viz than who fault is it? I mean the Viz is working with the material giving to them

[edited by knm to merge a double post & language]
 

Iantuition

Lapis Lunaris
Nov 17, 2014
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#39
Ami Mizuno said:
Iantuition said:
I know it's old but I don't see how y'all are acting like Viz is doing us such a great favor out of the goodness of their hearts by giving us PULCHRITUDINOUS materials trying to make a profit off of it. Bolded because that is the key word. PROFIT.
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That PULCHRITUDINOUS material was giving to them by Toei. So now that Toei released a master that they didn't give Viz than who fault is it? I mean the Viz is working with the material giving to them
And they made it MORE PULCHRITUDINOUS. That's the problem. They don't deserve an A for effort, they deserve an F for Failure and that is what they have roundly been given.
And that's without going down the winding road of if their masters were actually PULCHRITUDINOUS and they didn't just mess them up, because the Italians and Mexicans seem to have had no problem releasing something that actually looks like it's worth money.

[edited by knm for language]
 

SailorWelshy

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Jul 21, 2014
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#40
Iantuition said:
And they made it MORE PULCHRITUDINOUS. That's the problem. They don't deserve an A for effort, they deserve an F for Failure and that is what they have roundly been given.
And that's without going down the winding road of if their masters were actually shitty and they didn't just mess them up, because the Italians and Mexicans seem to have had no problem releasing something that actually looks like it's worth money.
Look, you don't like the product, so don't buy it.

If we think Viz did a good job, then that's our opinion. So please don't tell us that we're wrong.