C'est la vie

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Surly Bob

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aDam said:
I'm 26 and I love panty shots. I don't think half their audience is male and over 20. I think that the international audience is probably older. As a Japanese exchange student once told me in broken English "You watch Sailor Moon? In Japan that is a show for little girls.". Well it kind of is here too.
The "hentai" demographic in Japan is vast and influencial. Sailor Moon wouldn't have been half the success it was if it only appealed to little girls.

Your friend must have never seen the wide varety of "adult" Sailor Moon products on the market in Japan - condoms, sex toys, fetish gear, etc. When I was in Japan back in '98 I found a machine in a public restroom that sold the condoms and I cleaned the sucker out trying to get a complete set. Got every one except Sailor Mars. :( Every other machine I ever saw was sold out.
 

aDam

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Surly Bob said:
Your friend must have never seen the wide varety of "adult" Sailor Moon products on the market in Japan - condoms, sex toys, fetish gear, etc. When I was in Japan back in '98 I found a machine in a public restroom that sold the condoms and I cleaned the sucker out trying to get a complete set. Got every one except Sailor Mars. :( Every other machine I ever saw was sold out.
She came from Japan. You don't. There may be a fetish demographic but that doesn't change that it's a girl's show. I would expect her to be a better judge of the Japanese opinion what with coming from there and all.

No, as I said, my fiance thought so too at first ^^
Ah I guess I didn't catch that first time around. I don't see how studying Japanese has anything to do with this. It's something that's either French or English. Japanese doesn't come into it. And as a French person who didn't hear "C'est la vie" I don't think that makes a difference either. Maybe because real French people don't say "C'est" like the English "Say".
 
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Surly Bob said:
Your friend must have never seen the wide varety of "adult" Sailor Moon products on the market in Japan - condoms, sex toys, fetish gear, etc. When I was in Japan back in '98 I found a machine in a public restroom that sold the condoms and I cleaned the sucker out trying to get a complete set. Got every one except Sailor Mars. :( Every other machine I ever saw was sold out.
LOL Surly Bob.... that cracks me up! I remember going to Toys R Us to get the little trading cards. I would save up my quarters and then my sister and I would sit down in front of the machine and just keep cranking the thing til we ran out of coins... (sigh) the good old days...

I still have all my toys.. the star locket, the crescent wand, all the dolls (some large, some small), trading cards galore, books, Mixx and Smile, posters, etc etc.

Life without Sailor Moon is scary to imagine.. ROFL
 

pumuckl

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Feb 29, 2004
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#26
I never realized that, I don't pronounce sailor v and c'est la vie the same, quite similar, but not the same.
I think I never listened close enough, I'm a multi-tasking freak, i rarely do only one thing at one time, and I don't really hear what they say.

I am 17, if I had a tv I'd only watch 'arte' and kids stuff, who cares about who those shows are really supposed for ^_^
 
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aDam said:
I don't see how studying Japanese has anything to do with this. It's something that's either French or English. Japanese doesn't come into it. And as a French person who didn't hear "C'est la vie" I don't think that makes a difference either. Maybe because real French people don't say "C'est" like the English "Say".
Well... because... I can't explain. ^^;
I'm sorry, I did have a reason for saying that, but I can't explain in English (or French. Or any other language -.-; ), so just ignore what I was saying. *stupid*
 

Mr. Nice

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Oct 29, 2003
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#28
pumuckl said:
I never realized that, I don't pronounce sailor v and c'est la vie the same, quite similar, but not the same.
Well yes, in English the biggest difference is the lor/la pronounciation, plus completely different stress. But Japanease don't pronounce sailor as we do either, and Sailor V and c'est la vie are certainly closer then some other pairings which end up with the same katakana.
 

Surly Bob

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She came from Japan. You don't. There may be a fetish demographic but that doesn't change that it's a girl's show. I would expect her to be a better judge of the Japanese opinion what with coming from there and all.
A bit testy there, aren't we? I wasn't calling your friend a liar, I was calling her ignorant - big difference there! The fact of the matter is BSSM (and by association, PGSM) was not designed with a "target demographic" in mind. It contained elements designed to appeal to kids, teenagers and hentai salarymen. Likewise, merchandise sales are also diversified to the point that when you say "The only Sailor Moon stuff they sell is for little kids" you are showing your ignorance. The main reason Sailor Moon achieved such popularity in Japan was due to IT NOT BEING pinned down to a handfull of demographics like "Pokemon" or "Dragon Ball".
 
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Ah, but you don't really know that. Statistics only determines how much popularity increases when it exists, not when it doesn't. Your assumption of Sailor Moon being popular not only among little kids doesn't give us the benefit of the doubt that it might be equally as popular with only little kids. Even if the "little girl" population isn't as spanned as it is now, the proportion of popularity within only little girls liking Sailor Moon and little girls and other people liking Sailor Moon could be equivalent. However, we just don't know if that might truly be the case.

As of now, it would be improper to assume its growth in popularity without the factors of, say, designating the show only to little girls. Because it's only then that we think it will be a failure because we already have testimony of seeing the show as successful with other groups of people. If we can turn back time and make the show as it is with the aforementioned example of little girls, then we can be free for assumptions.
 

Surly Bob

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I like you. You funny person. P-: :P
 

marspeach

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#33
uncchristine99 said:
LOL Surly Bob.... that cracks me up! I remember going to Toys R Us to get the little trading cards. I would save up my quarters and then my sister and I would sit down in front of the machine and just keep cranking the thing til we ran out of coins... (sigh) the good old days...

I still have all my toys.. the star locket, the crescent wand, all the dolls (some large, some small), trading cards galore, books, Mixx and Smile, posters, etc etc.

Life without Sailor Moon is scary to imagine.. ROFL
Err, are we the same person, uncchristine99? All that applies to me. Even being at Toys R Us with my sister. I kept putting in coins until the machine ran out once! It was very weird reading your message. The Twilight Zone...
 

Surly Bob

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aDam said:
Surly Bob said:
A bit testy there, aren't we? I wasn't calling your friend a liar, I was calling her ignorant - big difference there!
I'm not being testy. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm calling you ignorant.
Too late, I called you ignorant first. That means I win!!! :lol: :lol:
 

Surly Bob

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aDam said:
You never called me ignorant. You called my exchange student friend ignorant. I win! Oh wait you said you win first... I think that blocks mine. :cry:
Isn't the internet great! It's what we got instead of flying cars, you know. :ohmy:
 

dodgerfan

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#39
KerochanNoMiko said:
Snow_Yeti said:
You're 19? Nah that's not too old to watch this, heck I'm 17. I know there are some older people who watch this as well.
Hey, I'm 25, and I know people twenty years older than me who watch Sailor Moon.
:D And being I am one of THEM, you are proven CORRECT!
As for "C'est La Vie"!, talk about a CATCHY song! Definitely a worthy successor to all those great songs from the anime and the musicals! It will never replace "Setsunakutei" as my "Venus Song" however!