Cloverway vs. Viz [S & SuperS]

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NJ_

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I was going to wait until there was a release date for the S dub on Hulu but Viz just had their Sailor Moon panel at Momocon today which was streamed on Twitch and they showed a clip of Uranus & Neptune from the new dub (most likely the same clip they showed at ACen) so I decided to make the thread now.

https://www.twitch.tv/momocontv3/v/68980045 - Panel starts at 1:34:41 and the clip is at 1:53:34

(Excuse the sound quality because the whole stream was pretty bad, even the season 1, R & Crystal trailers didn't sound as clear as they are on YouTube & Hulu)

And for comparison's sake, here's the old dub of that same clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veroFjNT0y8
 
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It's a shame the sound quality isn't clearer, but I'm so happy we got an S dub clip at last! :keke:

-I LOVE Neptune's voice. It's perfect. :love:
-Uranus doesn't sound quite as deep as I had hoped, but I like it too. I'm sure the acting alone will be a big step up from how wooden she was in the Cloverway dub.
-There's very little of her, but I like what I'm hearing of Eudial's VA as well.
 
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Oh boy, I have been waiting for this!

Being a big fan of the Cloverway dub, it will certainly be interesting to see how it stacks up to the new Viz dub. I'm just going to say this now, I can't imagine anyone else doing a better job as Kaorinite than Kirsten Bishop did. May she rest in peace.

Edit #1: After watching the clip, I'm really liking Haruka's voice. Michiru's... not so much. It's not so much that's it's different from Cloverway's dub, but this new voice doesn't even seem like the Japanese dub. To put it bluntly, it felt like I was watching someone fandub Michiru.

Edit #2: Uploaded the Viz English Dub clip to YouTube.

https://youtu.be/dVkfwUbd240
 

SnowWolf

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After looking over the clip, I am a little concerned that Haruka will sound too much like Makoto. However, I am pleased with Michiru as I've only heard her VA do snarky characters in the past.

Eudial wasn't clear enough for me to form an opinion on her voice, but I don't think I'll dislike it.
 
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Wish the clip had better quality audio. It was a bit hard to make out the new voices, but from what I could tell...

1. Viz!Uranus sounds like CWi!Uranus, but with much better acting. (Wish her voice was deeper though.)

2. Viz!Neptune left a lot to be desired. She's not /terrible/ but she wasn't great either. Just kind of there. Neptune should sound elegant, and she just didn't really.

3. Eudial's voice is also a bit meh. Need to hear more.
 
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I'm overall feeling positive. I echo MementoNepenthe's sentiments of wishing Haruka was a bit deeper, but wow, I forgot how cheesy Cwi's dub was. They totally trashed the seriousness of the scene. Excited for Viz's dub.
 

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Neptune's dub voice is so unremarkable from that clip. And Uranus' sounds okay. As someone said, she sounds kind of like Cloverway counterpart (who was a really bad actor). Not loving Eudial's voice, though. Perhaps this is just a bad clip.

I'd forgotten how much I hate how Viz!Mars' dub says "Mandala."
 
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Eudial's VA is Erin Fitzgerald, who has done a couple of other minor voices for the Viz dub. While the clip was short, it was enough to give me an idea of what to expect. It sounds like her Eudial is going to be similar to her Countess Rose voice. (from the Princess Seminar episode)
 
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ShineAquaIllusion said:
I'm overall feeling positive. I echo MementoNepenthe's sentiments of wishing Haruka was a bit deeper, but wow, I forgot how cheesy Cwi's dub was. They totally trashed the seriousness of the scene. Excited for Viz's dub.
I mean...they're being attacked by a giant sneaker. It's not exactly the most serious of scenes :P :p
 
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Why the delay? Based on that clip it still sounds like a ****ing fandub. It actually seems to be worse than what little I've seen of R.



No thank you, I'll stick to the Japanese sub.




Holy [BLEEP] what the **** is going on with Eudial? That voice, that delivery. I'm getting second hand embarassment.



Can we please hand this over to Funimation and get a re-redub
 

Neon Genesis

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The sound quality is probably because they're not done with audio editing yet or at least that's what it sounds like to me. Personally I love their new VAs. I love that Haruka sounds like the old Cloverway voice but like she has a more masculine edge to her to me. I love Michiru actually sounds like her age and not like an old lady.
 
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Still, they've been working on this for what feels like a year now. Why haven't they finished mixing the audio? More importantly, why show a clip with unfinished audio? It makes no sense to me.
 

NJ_

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Neon Genesis said:
The sound quality is probably because they're not done with audio editing yet or at least that's what it sounds like to me.
No, the entire live Twitch stream was like that. It has nothing to do with the clip at all as even the season 1, R & Crystal Blu-ray trailers that were shown yesterday sounded bad too. It also got worse at Viz's main panel today during it's second half.
 
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Boy that streaming audio did suck. Makes it all sound like a fandub.

But comparing both brief clips, the Viz one is a huge improvement. Erica Mendez as Uranus sounds exactly as I expected her to. Her VOICE is pretty similar to Sarah LaFleur's, but her acting and delivery is a million times better. Lauren Landa sounds a bit lighter than I hoped for Neptune, but she can easily pull this off. Barbara Radecki had a great elegant voice for the character, even if (like everyone else) her delivery was weak.

Eudial's voice is a huge improvement. My god, she sounded annoying in the old dub. It's interesting how we have another Canadian in the cast voicing her. The monster also sounded much better, whoever that was voicing her.

Cristina Vee's Mars actually doesn't sound quite as deep or forced as it used to, and she's starting to really come into her own.
 
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I legit thought this was a fandub clip.

MementoNepenthe said:
2. Viz!Neptune left a lot to be desired. She's not /terrible/ but she wasn't great either. Just kind of there. Neptune should sound elegant, and she just didn't really.
Agreed. Eudial sounds okay, but I guess that's mostly because her original voice was terrible. The "Not you two!" line sounded so lame.

And why'd they change the Daimon's name?
 

DREWdesu

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Salem Saberhagen said:
sailormoonpedia said:
I'd forgotten how much I hate how Viz!Mars' dub says "Mandala."
I'm not a fan either, but I'm wondering whether that's the more accurate way to pronounce it? They seem pretty meticulous...
I always pronounced it like how Rei says it in the Japanese version

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNY0kWPW9FQ[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4obbO5SV7JA[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybo7MpU30D0[/youtube]
 
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I dunno how I feel about them. The first time I listened to the clip, I couldn't help but liken Neptune's voice to something out of a really bad hentai dub but the second time around she sounded alright. I didn't really like her old dub voice so I don't know what I'd like to her to sound like, but maybe I need to hear her say more than a couple lines before I decide. Uranus' voice was alright, kind of forgettable though. I feel like she should have a deeper voice but maybe that's just because I'm used to it.

Overall, not too bad!
 

AnnaSartin

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MementoNepenthe said:
1. Viz!Uranus sounds like CWi!Uranus, but with much better acting. (Wish her voice was deeper though.)

2. Viz!Neptune left a lot to be desired. She's not /terrible/ but she wasn't great either. Just kind of there. Neptune should sound elegant, and she just didn't really.

3. Eudial's voice is also a bit meh. Need to hear more.
You nailed it!
 

Sabrblade

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Nothing's loading on Twitch when I click the link. The side menu loads but no video in the main body comes up. I want to watch the clip but the loading dotted circle just keeps spinning forever.

The only video I can find on YouTube has the clip broken up into pieces that alternate with pieces of the Cloverway version of the same scene, which makes for a very awkward viewing.