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rgveda99

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Naoko realized she wasn't earning enough from them to make her buy a new expensive Ferrari. So she threw the manuscript down the trash can and put the blame on an employee who happen to be at that time fired.
 

Rika-Chicchi

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rgveda99 said:
So she threw the manuscript down the trash can and put the blame on an employee who happen to be at that time fired.
She's a more careful person than one who'd just throw it into the trash can :ninja: - I've heard that she 1st shredded it & then flushed it down in the toilet. :)
 

rgveda99

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It was really was lost however the manuscript landed on someone's home and was used as toilet paper. :oh:
 

Rika-Chicchi

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Clow said:
The story was so bad (girls who are cockroaches?) that the publisher decided to come up with a lame excuse to not publish it.
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
 

rgveda99

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Rika-Chicchi said:
Clow said:
The story was so bad (girls who are cockroaches?) that the publisher decided to come up with a lame excuse to not publish it.
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
How does she get away with it? :question:

 
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Clow

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Rika-Chicchi said:
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
It seems below average, according to my impression; not good and definitely not a hit.

I don't know, sometimes I ask myself if Sailor Moon became successful due to Naoko's talent or due to the fact that she was managed by a very good editor, as documented here.

Before anyone accuses me of misogyny, kindly keep in mind that I am a huge fan of CLAMP --a group composed of women only.
 

foenyanko

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Clow said:
Rika-Chicchi said:
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
It seems below average, according to my impression; not good and definitely not a hit.

I don't know, sometimes I ask myself if Sailor Moon became successful due to Naoko's talent or due to the fact that she was managed by a very good editor, as documented here.

Before anyone accuses me of misogyny, kindly keep in mind that I am a huge fan of CLAMP --a group composed of women only.
Nah, I wouldn't call it misogyny. Even the best authors rely upon editors to refine their ideas, or at least their written word. All of the material that made SM great came from Naoko - Osabu just helped to control some of her more outlandish ideas and steered it toward being the mega-hit it is today. The gender of the two doesn't matter.
 

Neon Genesis

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Clow said:
It seems below average, according to my impression; not good and definitely not a hit.

I don't know, sometimes I ask myself if Sailor Moon became successful due to Naoko's talent or due to the fact that she was managed by a very good editor, as documented here.

Before anyone accuses me of misogyny, kindly keep in mind that I am a huge fan of CLAMP --a group composed of women only.
Having a good editor helps a lot but some authors are just one hit wonders. I think of someone like Nobuhiro Watsuki and how many people care about Buso Renkin versus how popular Rurouni Kenshin still is years later. It doesn't mean they're bad at writing but just they only had one story to tell.
 

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Clow said:
Rika-Chicchi said:
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
It seems below average, according to my impression; not good and definitely not a hit.
It was quite popular & successful in Japan at the time, considering its tons of merchs for years & its having four seasons (w/ almost the same total number of episodes as Sailor Moon), as well as movies & an OVA. I think it's not that big overseas, tho, especially when compared to Sailor Moon. :)
 

MementoNepenthe

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Clow said:
Rika-Chicchi said:
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
It seems below average, according to my impression; not good and definitely not a hit.

I don't know, sometimes I ask myself if Sailor Moon became successful due to Naoko's talent or due to the fact that she was managed by a very good editor, as documented here.

Before anyone accuses me of misogyny, kindly keep in mind that I am a huge fan of CLAMP --a group composed of women only.
According to Osabu (and Naoko), with Sailor Moon there were frequent meetings to discuss the story where Nakayoshi, Toei, and Bandai all had a lot of input in things like story direction and designs, so Naoko didn't have a lot of creative freedom, and the rushed schedule also made writing the manga a challenge for her. However, also according to Osabu, the Sailor V manga didn't have those *interferences* so Naoko did get her creative freedom there and it's more unfiltered Naoko. Like the Sailor V manga, the PQ Angels manga is light-hearted and very episodic. A lot of fans say they like the anime more because the 'filler' episodes give the characters space to develop, whereas the plot-focused manga is weak in that regard. Some point to that as evidence that Naoko isn't a good writer, but the reality seems to be the opposite: if it were up to Naoko, the Sailor Moon manga would probably have been more episodic and thus had more room for character development. Perhaps what some consider to be Naoko/the manga's biggest weakness (its poor character development) is actually due to all that creative interference from Toei, Bandai, and Nakayoshi!
 

Clow

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MementoNepenthe said:
According to Osabu (and Naoko), with Sailor Moon there were frequent meetings to discuss the story where Nakayoshi, Toei, and Bandai all had a lot of input in things like story direction and designs, so Naoko didn't have a lot of creative freedom, and the rushed schedule also made writing the manga a challenge for her. However, also according to Osabu, the Sailor V manga didn't have those *interferences* so Naoko did get her creative freedom there and it's more unfiltered Naoko. Like the Sailor V manga, the PQ Angels manga is light-hearted and very episodic. A lot of fans say they like the anime more because the 'filler' episodes give the characters space to develop, whereas the plot-focused manga is weak in that regard. Some point to that as evidence that Naoko isn't a good writer, but the reality seems to be the opposite: if it were up to Naoko, the Sailor Moon manga would probably have been more episodic and thus had more room for character development. Perhaps what some consider to be Naoko/the manga's biggest weakness (its poor character development) is actually due to all that creative interference from Toei, Bandai, and Nakayoshi!
And Sailor V is identical to Bishoujo Kamen Poitrine, just saying. :unsure:
 

Tuxedo Kevin

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MementoNepenthe said:
Clow said:
Rika-Chicchi said:
It's not that bad, actually - there's an episode in Ojamajo Doremi (a popular magical-girl anime) in which the protagonists transformed themselves into roaches. lol
It seems below average, according to my impression; not good and definitely not a hit.

I don't know, sometimes I ask myself if Sailor Moon became successful due to Naoko's talent or due to the fact that she was managed by a very good editor, as documented here.

Before anyone accuses me of misogyny, kindly keep in mind that I am a huge fan of CLAMP --a group composed of women only.
According to Osabu (and Naoko), with Sailor Moon there were frequent meetings to discuss the story where Nakayoshi, Toei, and Bandai all had a lot of input in things like story direction and designs, so Naoko didn't have a lot of creative freedom, and the rushed schedule also made writing the manga a challenge for her. However, also according to Osabu, the Sailor V manga didn't have those *interferences* so Naoko did get her creative freedom there and it's more unfiltered Naoko. Like the Sailor V manga, the PQ Angels manga is light-hearted and very episodic. A lot of fans say they like the anime more because the 'filler' episodes give the characters space to develop, whereas the plot-focused manga is weak in that regard. Some point to that as evidence that Naoko isn't a good writer, but the reality seems to be the opposite: if it were up to Naoko, the Sailor Moon manga would probably have been more episodic and thus had more room for character development. Perhaps what some consider to be Naoko/the manga's biggest weakness (its poor character development) is actually due to all that creative interference from Toei, Bandai, and Nakayoshi!
Could you provide us with a source on the executive meddling stuff?