Crystal Usagi or Classic Usagi

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Crystal or Classic

  • Crystal

    Votes: 39 36.1%
  • Classic

    Votes: 51 47.2%
  • Both equaly

    Votes: 18 16.7%

  • Total voters
    108

Joaco95

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Crystal/Manga.

Never watched the old anime so lol But I'm not here for dumb Usagi every chapter just for the sake of make us laugh.
 
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#83
Both versions.

Classic Usagi because she's funny and adds a lot of comedy to the show. She's the Usagi I grew up with. Although she remains immature during the entire 5 seasons (e.g. Mamoru gives her a ring in Stars, and she seems clueless that he proposed to her), she's funny. By the time that Stars ends, Usagi essentially still is a clumsy girl, and I find that charming. It's a reminder that we can be clumsy and silly and still be a super hero and save the planet.

Crystal Usagi because she's more serious, focused, and mature. She prevents Mamoru from kissing her when she's angry, has sex (okay, the scene wasn't as graphic as it could have been, but it's there), and rejects living as a Queen after the moon kingdom is restored. She is a kid and acts like a kid in the first episodes of Crystal, but by the time that the Black Moon arc begins it's clear that Usagi has become a woman, and is no longer a kid.
 
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#85
Clow said:
Both versions.

Classic Usagi because she's funny and adds a lot of comedy to the show. She's the Usagi I grew up with. Although she remains immature during the entire 5 seasons (e.g. Mamoru gives her a ring in Stars, and she seems clueless that he proposed to her), she's funny. By the time that Stars ends, Usagi essentially still is a clumsy girl, and I find that charming. It's a reminder that we can be clumsy and silly and still be a super hero and save the planet.

Crystal Usagi because she's more serious, focused, and mature. She prevents Mamoru from kissing her when she's angry, has sex (okay, the scene wasn't as graphic as it could have been, but it's there), and rejects living as a Queen after the moon kingdom is restored. She is a kid and acts like a kid in the first episodes of Crystal, but by the time that the Black Moon arc begins it's clear that Usagi has become a woman, and is no longer a kid.
Clow, I agree with your statement. 90's Usagi is a very charming and funny character. Crystal Usagi is okay, imo.
 
#86
Star Angel Haruki said:
Now that Crystal has ended I'm sure we can all say who we think if preferable for our own tastes.

For me, Classic still stands strong in my eyes. I think with Classic 90s you got to "know" her more, allowing some to become more intimate with her journey through the series. I think I'll judge Classic Usagi all the way up towards Sailor Moon S, where she was in her prime. (I can also point fingers just a little at the writing.) Watching the very first episode and seeing this whimp cry like a lost baby cause she needs to be saved, and then comparing this to the desperation to save Hotaru in Sailor Moon S by shouting CRISIS MakeUp is interesting.

As I always state..the episode in Classic where Usagi faces off against Camera youma is an important landmark for me for her ability to fight without and save the others, including Tuxedo Kamen. That episode was really a step up for her in my opinion.

I've yet to see Crystal Usagi get this kind of treatment. They even skipped over SM kick. I also find Crystal Usagi to be enjoyablevas well in her own right too. So I like them both for their intended run.
That's true, in the 90's anime, you got to know Usagi more.
 
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#87
Classic is the way for me. One reason why is how we flushed out the characters back then. Some of them developed interesting characteristics and personalities. Not only that, but how Usagi met them. Makoto for example. She was known to be the fighter type, so it was fitting that Usagi would meet her after Makoto beat up some gangsters. Now, they soften and change the characters a bit.
 
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Seira Hazuki

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I'd rank it as:

1) PGSM!Usagi
2) New Musicals!Usagi
3) Classic!Usagi
4) Manga!Usagi
5) Crystal!Usagi (Speaking of Season 1 only, as she's virtually the same as the manga version in Season 2 and 3.)
 
#91
AmiMizunosHusband said:
Classic Usagi of course she was just such a loveable character it was impossible to hate her, her Crystal counterpart was kinda bland to me she just wasn't as fun a character as she was in the 90s anime
How About PGSM?
 

Neo King Rose

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#93
AmiMizunosHusband said:
Usagi-Fifth-Doctor said:
AmiMizunosHusband said:
Classic Usagi of course she was just such a loveable character it was impossible to hate her, her Crystal counterpart was kinda bland to me she just wasn't as fun a character as she was in the 90s anime
How About PGSM?
I have no opinion on PGSM as I've never watched it
I recommend it as the best version of Dark Kingdom arc
Aside from Sailor Luna and other elements that I consider cons
A couple of pros it has the best Rei and probably my favorite Ami I love beryl and the shittenou here too
Also a competent version of tuxedo
 
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#94
Prince Rose said:
I recommend it as the best version of Dark Kingdom arc
Aside from Sailor Luna and other elements that I consider cons
A couple of pros it has the best Rei and probably my favorite Ami
Also a competent version tuxedo
are the episodes on YouTube? if so I may watch it but I cannot guarantee I'll like it
 

Neo King Rose

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#95
AmiMizunosHusband said:
Prince Rose said:
I recommend it as the best version of Dark Kingdom arc
Aside from Sailor Luna and other elements that I consider cons
A couple of pros it has the best Rei and probably my favorite Ami
Also a competent version tuxedo
are the episodes on YouTube? if so I may watch it but I cannot guarantee I'll like it
There are but YouTube tends to delete so you gotta strike when the iron is hot
I think in the drama section crunchyroll has them, at least they did in '07 when I finished it ^_^'
 

Neon Genesis

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I personally love all the versions of Usagi. I think they all have their own strengths and weaknesses and no one version is going to be perfect. I love that Usagi is more mature n the manga and Crystal but I was also always inspired by Usagi's pacifist ideals in the original anime.
 
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Seira Hazuki

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My main issue with Manga or Crystal Usagi is how every character, from her friends to even sometimes her enemies, revere her... Sometimes even worship her to the point where it feels a little unrealistic.

Like, putting aside how little development we see the relationships between Usagi and the Inners get in the manga (at least you know they spent considerable time together during the Silver Millennium, so arguably their bonds cross over spacetime)...Why exactly did the Outers look up to Princess Serenity during the Silver Millennium? They never met the girl. In fact, it's weird to me that they wouldn't even be a little bit bitter towards the fact that their Queen made them fight in complete and total isolation since they were possibly children. Don't get me wrong, I love Haruka's interactions with Usagi in the manga and Crystal and how it's refreshingly less antagonistic, but it made me cringe when the Outers said that Princess Serenity was their light of hope during the elevator scene because it felt completely unearned... And this is one of Naoko's biggest flaws as a writer.

That said, the '90s anime had like the total opposite problem where the jokes toward Usagi would sometimes go a little too far. I love that the original anime portrayed Usagi as imperfect. I VASTLY prefer flawed and imperfect characters vs. characters that seem to embody flawless ideals (not accusing Manga!Usagi of this before someone gets hysterical). But at the same time, some of the jokes went too far for a cheap gag.

It's like both series never managed to find a healthy balance with the two. Except for PGSM!Usagi, who honestly is much more realistic than her manga and anime counterparts (so much so that sometimes she appears less brave than her other counterparts... But I find that refreshing.)
 
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#98
Prince Rose said:
There are but YouTube tends to delete so you gotta strike when the iron is hot
I think in the drama section crunchyroll has them, at least they did in '07 when I finished it ^_^'
I just checked yesterday and its not on there but even if it was I'm not sure I could watch it my subscription is anime only
 

Neo King Rose

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#99
AmiMizunosHusband said:
Prince Rose said:
There are but YouTube tends to delete so you gotta strike when the iron is hot
I think in the drama section crunchyroll has them, at least they did in '07 when I finished it ^_^'
I just checked yesterday and its not on there but even if it was I'm not sure I could watch it my subscription is anime only
Well it was ten years ago so its likely not there ^_^'
 

Caramella

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i didn't like classic usagi she was so cry baby & clumsy and acting like a kid

i prefer crystal :evillaugh:

but if it was stars vs classic i will choose stars for sure :oh: