Do people still watch the Dic Dub unironically?

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Do you like the original SM Dic Dub?


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blondibear_17

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Mar 3, 2017
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#21
I can't find too much fault with the Dic dub because even though it's not as faithful as people would like it to be I felt the production was clearly doing the best job that they could to deliver a quality product that would be marketable. I think some of the voice acting is hammy here and there really with side characters and stuff but the main casts are clearly taking the work seriously and I think even though their intrepretations of some of the characters are a bit different they did a great job in making it their own. Although I think the original performances in it's native Japanese are great I don't much care for the music at all really sometimes it just doesn't really do anything to create the appropriate atmosphere for the scene so I think the Dic dub is better in that regard. I mean for that era they really put a lot of work into the show.
 

Ale6

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Jan 10, 2018
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#23
^ I never got that, it might be my language barrier, but I don't understand what Ami is trying to say in that scene.
Is it just a random insult she says because he has white hair? Or does it have another meaning?

By the way, if I can I want to recommend this videos for some gold of the Dic Dub, I didn't make them (original creator: Squid), but they are really funny.
Sailor Moon without context
Part 2
Part 3
They are honestly the reason I made this thread in the first place.
 
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MementoNepenthe

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#24
For some reason, the DiC dub included a lot of lines/jokes about Kunzite being a blond "pretty boy" even though he has white hair (not blond) and has a very serious personality. Amy's insult is based on that: she's saying he should leave them alone and stick to touching up his dark roots. It's a very silly line.
 

Masquerade

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Nov 22, 2016
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#29
Disney/Buena Vista only released 12 random episodes to VHS before Doom Tree, with two episodes per tape. The Doom Tree boxset was the only time they released a large number of episodes in chronological order. You can view scans of all the tape boxes here: Sailor Moon Uncensored: Misc - Buena Vista's DiC VHSs. I guess they would be good collector's items if you're not trying to get the whole series.
LOL. Now I know where the cover arts from the Brazilian 1996 Classic VHS releases originally come from.
 
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#30
For some reason, the DiC dub included a lot of lines/jokes about Kunzite being a blond "pretty boy" even though he has white hair (not blond) and has a very serious personality. Amy's insult is based on that: she's saying he should leave them alone and stick to touching up his dark roots. It's a very silly line.
I'd like to add a needless note about this one.

While Kunzite/Malachite's hair is clearly white, in the 80's it really was a big trend to dye one's hair platinum blonde, which is very, very close to white. Since this general also has tanned skin (which was also, very big in the 80s), this was very much the look of a Hollywood "dude" and the long hair was surfer-esque. A prime example of this look is Ric Flair in his heyday, even though he differs in actual behavior in many regards.

By the mid 90's, these trends had faded a little (the platinum hair first...it took a little longer for extreme tanning to fall out of favor), but was still present. It's funny because while it may have only been meant as a general insult, Sailor Mercury isn't just mocking his appearance; she's saying he's out of style. Out of character for the Ami Mizuno we know, to be fair, but in the old dub's context it does make sense.

And in a full circle moment, the ganguro craze became popular in Japan afterward.
 
#31
^ I never got that, it might be my language barrier, but I don't understand what Ami is trying to say in that scene.
Is it just a random insult she says because he has white hair? Or does it have another meaning?
Most people don't have that as a natural hair color so she is telling him to "bleach" his roots. Meaning his brown hair is growing to change the color to grey/sliver with bleach.

For some reason, the DiC dub included a lot of lines/jokes about Kunzite being a blond "pretty boy" even though he has white hair (not blond) and has a very serious personality. Amy's insult is based on that: she's saying he should leave them alone and stick to touching up his dark roots. It's a very silly line.
Not really, once you bleach your hair if you use toner you can make it grey/silver. The first step is to bleach so the insult makes sense.
 

noildoof

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Feb 1, 2011
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#32
None of the voting options exactly match how I feel about it.

I absolutely loved it as a kid, but when I got older and had access to the uncut Japanese version I really started disliking the dub. Not only for the corny dialogue and strange censorship decisions, but also the voice actor choices, mainly Serena's actress. I found the Japanese voice a lot cuter and fitting once I heard it, and after that I always thought her dub voice sounded like a yodeling 30-year-old valley girl.

Having said that, I'm glad the dub was made. Otherwise, I'd probably never have heard of Sailor Moon. Or maybe I would have. The other potential outcome was the Toon Makers series getting greenlit instead of the dub...
 

Ale6

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Jan 10, 2018
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#33
None of the voting options exactly match how I feel about it.

I absolutely loved it as a kid, but when I got older and had access to the uncut Japanese version I really started disliking the dub. Not only for the corny dialogue and strange censorship decisions, but also the voice actor choices, mainly Serena's actress. I found the Japanese voice a lot cuter and fitting once I heard it, and after that I always thought her dub voice sounded like a yodeling 30-year-old valley girl.

Having said that, I'm glad the dub was made. Otherwise, I'd probably never have heard of Sailor Moon. Or maybe I would have. The other potential outcome was the Toon Makers series getting greenlit instead of the dub...
Again I never watched it, only seen tons of clips, and I can tell that it is a very flawed dub, but it has its charm.

I almost see it as this thing where from one side I would really like to bash on it and saying how awkward and horrible it was at certain points, but on the other side I really fondly respect it. They were the people who first took care of the series when it came out in the US, the people who shaped millions of kids, teenagers, and adults alike; like Memento said, you can cringe at how many variations of the series you want, but you come to appreciate every one of them as their own distinct identity.
 

Valse de la lune

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#34
I still watch it out of the enjoyment (and slight nostalgia) of it being what I remember, but like the option above mentions, I am glad to see we got the original version with a new sub track so I can also enjoy that. (Or seeing it in its native language).
 
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EMN Rose

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Jan 20, 2018
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#36
I'm one of those people who still appreciates the DiC dub as well as the Cloverway dub (yes, go ahead, shame me) because without it, I would've never discovered Sailor Moon or any other animes as well as create my own fan series. Yes I understand the voices were a bit off, the dialogue was switched around, but hey no dub is perfect. I thought the cheesy lines and voices were pretty memorable and if I could close my eyes and imagine listening to it, I could figure out who's who
 
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#37
I still watch Dic's dub for old time's sake. But from what I remember as a kid, I inconsistently watched episodes in the first two seasons and very little of S. I never made it pass to Supers.
Yea by the time S aired dubbed I had VHS tapes of the Japanese version. My mothers wallet was never the same as they were soooo expensive with only two episodes per tape.

None of the voting options exactly match how I feel about it.

I absolutely loved it as a kid, but when I got older and had access to the uncut Japanese version I really started disliking the dub. Not only for the corny dialogue and strange censorship decisions, but also the voice actor choices, mainly Serena's actress. I found the Japanese voice a lot cuter and fitting once I heard it, and after that I always thought her dub voice sounded like a yodeling 30-year-old valley girl.

Having said that, I'm glad the dub was made. Otherwise, I'd probably never have heard of Sailor Moon. Or maybe I would have. The other potential outcome was the Toon Makers series getting greenlit instead of the dub...
Well said :)
 

JMac52

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Apr 18, 2019
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#38
It had a lot of nostalgic value for me and some of the changes are pretty fun or funny, so I don’t dislike it. For example, Usagi/Serena’s reaction to discovering Mamoru was Tuxedo Mask in the Dic dub was hilarious and makes me laugh every time I see it. Overall, it’s okay but definitely has obvious issues. (Cousins, slap censoring, corny dialogue, etc)

I just much prefer the Viz Dub over it due to the overall voice acting and the accuracy. I love Stephanie Sheh’s voice so much that I can’t describe it. (The Other Sailor Senshi And Tuxedo Mask sound great as well)
 
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#39
For example, Usagi/Serena’s reaction to discovering Mamoru was Tuxedo Mask in the Dic dub was hilarious and makes me laugh every time I see it.
Even as a kid that was one of my favorite scenes


Overall, it’s okay but definitely has obvious issues. (Cousins, slap censoring, corny dialogue, etc)
Both versions had corny dialog. Optimum more so “let’s be hip and with it” Japanese more so “what the [BLEEP] were the writers smoking when they wrote this dialog”

Arguably its part of the charm for both


I just much prefer the Viz Dub over it due to the overall voice acting and the accuracy.
The voice acting in the Viz dub is more consistent I’ll grant you

I love Stephanie Sheh’s voice so much that I can’t describe it.
I wish it was less try hard. She’s definitely better suited for the role than Terri (who sounded too old for 14) and Linda. Tracey Moore was still the best being suited for a middle school girl and actually being able to act. A double threat the other three lacked.

(The Other Sailor Senshi And Tuxedo Mask sound great as well)
Sometimes Robbie is a bit too generic for his own good and I think Bosch should have been given the role. Higgins is too generic. Vee is more suited for Crystal Rei than OG Rei. Her performance is technically fine but I don’t buy her as our favorite bi polar soldier. I think Cherami should have been the one voicing Usagi tbh she sounds young and naive and even though Minako is a ditz she’s also the most mature. Miller is fantastic as Jupiter and I quite like Taylor as Pluto.

Neptune and Uranus actors are whatever. I like Sandy Fox a teeny bit better than Tracey Hoyt but nowhere near as much as Sugar who sounded natural and less put upon.