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Why do men and guys like to watch sailor moon if it's for girls only i just don't understand
1 sailor moon has all girls
2 sailor moon is not meant for guys to watch too girly girlish
How can they stand seeing it don't they like boys and men's stuffs only
Why because female fighters are weak too
 
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Maraviollantes said:
And even straight ones gradually turn gay after watching too much Sailor Moon. :cthulhu:
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SaidLuisa17 said:
Why do men and guys like to watch sailor moon if it's for girls only i just don't understand
1 sailor moon has all girls
2 sailor moon is not meant for guys to watch too girly girlish
How can they stand seeing it don't they like boys and men's stuffs only
Why because female fighters are weak too
i watch it because i like watching beautiful woman jump around in mini-skirts LOL :lol: :mischief:
 

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As someone who semi-fits the bill of Maraviollantes' generalizations (transgender female) I can't speak to how any specific males feel about Sailor Moon, but here's some points of my own.

1. Many (perhaps even most?) people don't actually stick completely to 'gendered' interests even if they are cisgender males, or cisgender females- how many girls liked Star Wars before Rey even existed (though Leia was pretty awesome), when the franchise had a predominately male cast? Lots. Some people considered Star Wars a 'boys' franchise or 'manly', but it had plenty of fans of all genders, and I'm sure there's even better examples.

2. Sailor Moon totally has it's own heroic male characters, such as Mamoru, Umino, Nephrite (first anime version), and Saphir (likewise). It also has lots of tragic, sympathetic male villains (and one or two non-sympathetic ones).

3. Sailor Moon also has several characters of in-between gender, such as the Sailor Starlights, Fisheye, and Zoisite. These characters are not consistently manly or womanly (well, okay, Zoisite and Fisheye are pretty womanly) but fall somewhere in-between. These characters also have a strong fanbase, with people writing their own fanfictions about them.

4. Basically, gender preferences are a big complicated spectrum and people do not always fall on one side of the fence or the other, and even though many people do identify solidly as one gender, they are still willing to watch or read things that are associated with the opposite gender- for precisely the reason Neon Genesis said, that the story and characters are good enough to be interested. (That's also pretty much what makes it stand out for me; I don't follow franchises for their masculinity or femininity, I just really like Sailor Moon's story.)

5. There's people with Ryo's reason too I guess XD
 

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1- sailor moon was my first anime

2 - I maybe a straight male and I was 9 at the time but I love the idea of a female hero to look up to none of the American ones interested me at the time sm was different despite being female "Serena" is relatable like I don't find characters like She ra relatable to me know what I mean


3 - I've had a crush on usagi and still do since 1995
I find her attractive in both beauty and personality, I find her charming cute and I love that she has a big heart, I even love her clumsy and lazy sides
Not only is she my fav sm character but she's my favorite anime character of all time I don't just love her I adore her

4 - I love the story

5 - I love the other senshi and minor characters and even many of the villains throughout the series

6 - extremely Manly stuff is boring to me

7 - the alternative at the time was dbz and for the life of me I could not get into it till I saw og Dragon ball in 2001

8 - I love to hate chiba P-:

9 - I fell in love with the series a second time even more so than the first time when I saw the Japanese version of the 90s anime in 2004 I consider that my sailor moon rebirth and it has bound me to this fandom forever
 

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Mitsukara said:
As someone who semi-fits the bill of Maraviollantes' generalizations (transgender female) I can't speak to how any specific males feel about Sailor Moon, but here's some points of my own.

1. Many (perhaps even most?) people don't actually stick completely to 'gendered' interests even if they are cisgender males, or cisgender females- how many girls liked Star Wars before Rey even existed (though Leia was pretty awesome), when the franchise had a predominately male cast? Lots. Some people considered Star Wars a 'boys' franchise or 'manly', but it had plenty of fans of all genders, and I'm sure there's even better examples.

2. Sailor Moon totally has it's own heroic male characters, such as Mamoru, Umino, Nephrite (first anime version), and Saphir (likewise). It also has lots of tragic, sympathetic male villains (and one or two non-sympathetic ones).

3. Sailor Moon also has several characters of in-between gender, such as the Sailor Starlights, Fisheye, and Zoisite. These characters are not consistently manly or womanly (well, okay, Zoisite and Fisheye are pretty womanly) but fall somewhere in-between. These characters also have a strong fanbase, with people writing their own fanfictions about them.

4. Basically, gender preferences are a big complicated spectrum and people do not always fall on one side of the fence or the other, and even though many people do identify solidly as one gender, they are still willing to watch or read things that are associated with the opposite gender- for precisely the reason Neon Genesis said, that the story and characters are good enough to be interested. (That's also pretty much what makes it stand out for me; I don't follow franchises for their masculinity or femininity, I just really like Sailor Moon's story.)

5. There's people with Ryo's reason too I guess XD
Eloquently put Mitsukara. All of your points more or less summarize the fandom as a whole. As for me personally I'm a fan because the stories are intriguing and the characters are actually quite compelling, the heroes and the villains equally. The art style is also very detailed and gorgeous. Unfortunately even I have to admit that a part of me also enjoys seeing some skin from the girls. I heart Mako-chan, she's my waifu. :love:
 

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As long as we're talking a little bit about attraction to characters, I'm not joking when I say Nephrite and Zoistie are both very beautiful (though so are Minako and some other characters, I 'swing both ways'). Though personality wise I think I prefer Umino, Professor Tomoe, Saphir, and Artemis. As far as characters I identify with, I find Naru the most relateable.

However, aside from Nephrite and Zoisite I don't think Sailor Moon has art all that attractive-looking (more cute than sexy); if I were to try to choose my favorite attractive renderings of anime girls, I think I'd go more for the Love Hina manga by Ken Akamatsu (but not the Love Hina anime, Xebec studios did ugly art and a poor job adapting that story). The art in Sailor Moon is nice in it's own way, and the music is amazing, but I'm definitely there mainly for the story.

Dragon Ball... I wanted to like it, the ways it reminded me of the Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior games appealed to me, but honestly I've had a lot of trouble keeping my interesting the original manga or Dragon Ball Z or any of it. It's alright but it really hasn't reached out and grabbed me. I lose interest in competitions that feel like they're just for the sake of competitions, so basically I'd rather replay something like Dragon Quest VIII any day than sit and catch up much on Dragon Ball. Only every several years does my curiosity catch up with me again to go back and try more of it.
 

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I feel that many men would agree that watching "Sailor Moon" is cool because it is a show that depicts girls and young women feeling empowered. And, actually, we need more of that.

Should I ever become a father someday and have a daughter, I would like her to watch "Sailor Moon."
 

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Clow said:
I feel that many men would agree that watching "Sailor Moon" is cool because it is a show that depicts girls and young women feeling empowered. And, actually, we need more of that.

Should I ever become a father someday and have a daughter, I would like her to watch "Sailor Moon."
Wow. I never thought of it that way. Great observation Clow.
I'm going to do that too.
 

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Mitsukara said:
However, aside from Nephrite and Zoisite I don't think Sailor Moon has art all that attractive-looking (more cute than sexy); if I were to try to choose my favorite attractive renderings of anime girls, I think I'd go more for the Love Hina manga by Ken Akamatsu (but not the Love Hina anime, Xebec studios did ugly art and a poor job adapting that story). The art in Sailor Moon is nice in it's own way, and the music is amazing, but I'm definitely there mainly for the story.
For me I would say I like Sailor Moon's character designs and the visual aesthetic of old school anime is appealing to me more so than specifically the "art."
 

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Even though Sailor Moon is targeted towards girls, it doesn't mean men shouldn't like it. I don't see anything wrong with boys watching Sailor Moon.

I watch shows meant for the male audience.
 

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Permission to post, but doesn't it sound like the OP is obviously trolling? :roll:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with men watching a show about girls fighting and feeling empowered. Do you guys agree that "girly" or "girlish" are pejorative adjectives? I do not. If you are a man, don't you support a society in which "girly" girls are empowered? Isn't that what you would want for your daughter, should you ever have one? Or to your wife? Come on.

On a less political note, "Sailor Moon" is an incredible show. The comedy, the adventure, the drama. It also gets very dark at times. It is interesting to see how the characters evolve. It is interesting to see how Usagi acts in the face of adversity or when she loses her friends or when she is trying to save the world.
 

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Clow said:
If you are a man, don't you support a society in which "girly" girls are empowered? Isn't that what you would want for your daughter, should you ever have one? Or to your wife? Come on.
Naoko sure knows how girly girls should get "empowered" the right way. Who needs education, career, goals in life, profession? The only thing a "girly girl" has to do is to marry some rich bastard with an Alfa Romeo (and the best strategy for that is to get pregnant before marriage so he doesn't have a choice), and then she'll never have to worry about getting any job or education.

I sure would love my daughter to get empowered like that. :cool:
 

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Maraviollantes said:
Naoko sure knows how girly girls should get "empowered" the right way. Who needs education, career, goals in life, profession? The only thing a "girly girl" has to do is to marry some rich ☹ with an Alfa Romeo (and the best strategy for that is to get pregnant before marriage so he doesn't have a choice), and then she'll never have to worry about getting any job or education.
Actually, no, she married a mangaka with a background similar to hers, and he seems quite problematic... allegedly, she at one point had to draw some pages of his manga and finish his work for him. So... no... Naoko may love her cars, but she didn't marry that kind of guy. She married a guy who is allegedly addicted to video games and asks his own fans to stop bothering him and leave him alone.
 

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Actually, no, she married a mangaka with a background similar to hers, and he seems quite problematic... allegedly, she at one point had to draw some pages of his manga and finish his work for him. So... no... Naoko may love her cars, but she didn't marry that kind of guy. She married a guy who is allegedly addicted to video games and asks his own fans to stop bothering him and leave him alone.
I was talking about Usagi. She never had any job, never had any education after graduating from school, and didn't even bother to learn her own language (still unable to write kanji, so her education stopped somewhere at the level of elementary school). The guy with Alfa Romeo is Mamoru, of course.
 

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at the end of the day good is good despite intended audience

if guys watch sm who cares it just means it's better than your average anime that caters to a specific audience

there's more to SM than meets the eye

if your gonna take anything from this post take this - watch what you want haters gonna hate