I Am Disgusted.

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Do I even need to begin what is WRONG with this [BLEEP] (the thumbnail is the hint and it starts about 7 minutes onwards)? Calling out certain things people are complaining about is NOT "SJW behavior, political correctness/woke culture", these people along with a good amount of braindead idiots who are defending said thing I am talking about?? They're an example of everything that's gone wrong in this world. If the #sailormoonredraw challenge is going to consist of people who defend this [BLEEP], then I ain't participating in it.
 
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Just ignore and block them. Not replying to these Twitter trolls disempowers them. The vlogger already made a list for you.
I have no Twitter account, but I am ignoring them and chose to keep my head down and not speak on Youtube; I'm still disgusted [BLEEP] like this is being encouraged and trying to be normalized.

What vlogger?
 

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Do I even need to begin what is WRONG with this [BLEEP] (the thumbnail is the hint and it starts about 7 minutes onwards)? Calling out certain things people are complaining about is NOT "SJW behavior, political correctness/woke culture", these people along with a good amount of braindead idiots who are defending said thing I am talking about?? They're an example of everything that's gone wrong in this world. If the #sailormoonredraw challenge is going to consist of people who defend this [BLEEP], then I ain't participating in it.
When you make a new thread and expect other people to respond, it would help if you provided some context. "Certain things" (what things?), "these people" (which people?), "said thing I'm talking about" (you didn't say what thing you are talking about), "everything that is wrong in this world" (what is wrong?). I have no clue what all of this is about.

Your post sounds like it belongs to some other discussion/argument about "things", which started somewhere else. But for people like me, who just click on new threads, and are not familiar with the context of this argument, it's impossible to figure out what you are talking about.
 
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I skimmed the video- some people with the redraw challenge went for a nsfw route, and others aren't happy about it.

I wont get into my stance on the topic of whether I agree with his stance or not about hentai being okay when involving "underage" characters. But I will say that his insistence that people don't know ages of anime characters is a little weak when 1) a lot of anime is based in high schools and 2) ...... isn't there a bunch of episodes where Usagi explicitly introduces herself with Hi I'm Usagi I'm 14?
 
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I skimmed the video- some people with the redraw challenge went for a nsfw route, and others aren't happy about it.

I wont get into my stance on the topic of whether I agree with his stance or not about hentai being okay when involving "underage" characters. But I will say that his insistence that people don't know ages of anime characters is a little weak when 1) a lot of anime is based in high schools and 2) ...... isn't there a bunch of episodes where Usagi explicitly introduces herself with Hi I'm Usagi I'm 14?
Yes, plus at the end she states she's 16 in the first year of high school, and someone also could look up character ages.

Concerning a lot of hentai that got licensed by Central Park Media, the people who made the English versions of the majority of them lied about the characters' ages saying they were "college students"/"19" to avoid being held accountable for obscenity charges when you can see the characters clearly were wearing the sailor style school uniforms, and CPM failed to notice that Japanese college students don't wear uniforms.
 

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Actually it is just that woke/sjw/political correctness. First off the woke twitter SJWs accuse Sailor Moon of being "white washed" when that is the Japanese anime artform IE weird hair and eye colors and then they freak out when she is depicted in a sexual light. When again she is 14 to 16 the show always depicted her in a sexual light and even Naoko Takeuchi herself depicted Usagi nude, in pin up poses and even topless in the Infinity Artbook. Not to mention it is fiction and not reality anyways or the fact that horny teens at that age and to this day are sleeping around and some of them wearing far less then what Usagi wears on a regular basis. Naoko Takeuchi even wanted the Sailor Senshi's outfits to be even more skimpy then what they are where as Toei wanted them to be more conservative so they had to reach a happy medium. Quite frankly the modern SJW and woke feminist movement is as anti sex specifically heterosexual male sexuality and desire as the radfems are. To them male heterosexual desire is every bit as evil as homosexual sexuality and desire is to certain religions. They are constantly campaigning for sexualized depictions of women even adult women to be censored and women either desexualized and masculinized because in actuality they are misogynists themselves and think that femininity and sexualization is degrading to women. All it is is the same kind of Victorian streak that has been in feminism for a while. They are no different from the Andrea Dworkin or Catherine McKinnon types who tried to censor movies and erotic media that they deemed sexualizing and degrading to women. In fact feminists have had a long history of allying with religious conservatives to ban any media that they don't like that they feel is sexualizing women. This goes back to even the Hayes code where feminists along with the religious right campaigned to ban movies they deemed obscene. Famed actress Gloria Swanson even talked about how feminists were responsible for this and before that feminists were responsible for prohibition and we see how well that turned out. Margaret Atwood even addresses anti porn feminist collusion with the religious right in her book The Handmaid's Tale. Ultimately what it boils down to is that the male gaze monsters (which is a Japanese term for anti sexualization feminists) feel insecure in their own looks and in themselves and despise the sexy, feminine and sexualized woman because they feel they can't compete with her and in many cases through out history colluded with the patriarchs they allegedly despise to bring said woman down. There is a reason that besides the usual slur of Karen given to anti sexualization feminists that I also call them Lydias and Serena Joys where as the Pomba Gira spirited sexualized feminine and sexy woman I call the Jolene. However ultimately the Jolene always wins because Eves never prosper against Liliths.
 
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As a male fan, I never watch any hentai of any SM characters and I am always pissed off when some ppl trying to bring hentai up during SM discussion.

As for this one, I don't think it's a huge deal as much as I don't like it. Like others said above, Usagi herself got nude scenes in the manga and anime. So I'm kinda in the middle ground.
 

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As a male fan, I never watch any hentai of any SM characters and I am always pissed off when some ppl trying to bring hentai up during SM discussion.

As for this one, I don't think it's a huge deal as much as I don't like it. Like others said above, Usagi herself got nude scenes in the manga and anime. So I'm kinda in the middle ground.
As is your right not to watch or view Sailor Moon hentai. I like it I love hentai in general. I like sexy and sexualized media in general and I dislike how the male gaze monsters have for a long time tried to ban this especially since they collude with the religious right to do so and have done so.
 

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As is your right not to watch or view Sailor Moon hentai. I like it I love hentai in general. I like sexy and sexualized media in general and I dislike how the male gaze monsters have for a long time tried to ban this especially since they collude with the religious right to do so and have done so.
True, male gaze monsters are disgusting, where you can't even admire a girl's looks. That's a major reason why I love SM. It shows women can be powerful and beautiful, at the same time not demonizing the male characters.

However I simply don't like hentai. I highly admire all the senshi(especially my favorite ones) as strong and lovely girls so I don't want to put them in any kind of sexual fantasy to show any kind of disrespect.
 
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True, male gaze monsters are disgusting, where you can't even admire a girl's looks. That's a major reason why I love SM. It shows women can be powerful and beautiful, at the same time not demonizing the male characters.

However I simply don't like hentai. I highly admire all the senshi(especially my favorite ones) as strong and lovely girls so I don't want to put them in any kind of sexual fantasy to show any kind of disrespect.
Well that is the problem there the notion that having a sexual fantasy about a woman also means you disrespect her or "objectify" her you can have sexual fantasies about men and women and not disrespect or objectify them. It is rather ironic that sex negative feminists embrace the view that you can't sexualize a woman and respect her when in essence this is basically the backbone of the Madonna/Whore concept and is the basis for modesty culture. I have no issue if hentai isn't to people's tastes what I take issue with and in fact great issue with is this idea that you can't have sexual fantasies about women or men and respect them at the same time. I think that is probably one of the most evil views on the planet.
 
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Well that is the problem there the notion that having a sexual fantasy about a woman also means you disrespect her or "objectify" her you can have sexual fantasies about men and women and not disrespect or objectify them. It is rather ironic that sex negative feminists embrace the view that you can't sexualize a woman and respect her when in essence this is basically the backbone of the Madonna/Whore concept and is the basis for modesty culture. I have no issue if hentai isn't to people's tastes what I take issue with and in fact great issue with is this idea that you can't have sexual fantasies about women or men and respect them at the same time. I think that is probably one of the most evil views on the planet.
Because hentai usually has the females suffer a lot of misfortune and there are a lot of OOC stuff. Of course I don't think it's a crime to watch it, I just don't watch those who I really like about. I prefer to separate beauty/love and sex completely, I'm not asking others to do it.

It's just my own taste. I like stars like Mandonna/Marilyn Monroe/Demi Moore and they are great ppl . I just don't find them as my favorite because I prefer the non-sexy beauty.
 

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Because hentai usually has the females suffer a lot of misfortune and there are a lot of OOC stuff. Of course I don't think it's a crime to watch it, I just don't watch those who I really like about. I prefer to separate beauty/love and sex completely, I'm not asking others to do it.

It's just my own taste. I like stars like Mandonna/Marilyn Monroe/Demi Moore and they are great ppl . I just don't find them as my favorite because I prefer the non-sexy beauty.
Not always some hentai are just romantic love stories. Yes those exist where the misfortune happens but in some cases the women can triumph. Probably my favorite erotica whether it is hentai or not are beautiful, sensual, romantic and pornographic love stories. With both parties consenting, surrendering and giving into their mutual love and desires. I do of course like violent and horror hentai because I like violent and horrific movies but as a romantic first and foremost I love beautiful sensual love stories in erotica and porn.
 
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As a male fan, I never watch any hentai of any SM characters and I am always pissed off when some ppl trying to bring hentai up during SM discussion.

As for this one, I don't think it's a huge deal as much as I don't like it. Like others said above, Usagi herself got nude scenes in the manga and anime. So I'm kinda in the middle ground.
Those nude scenes were more for artistic purposes/purity, as Japan sees nudity as a form of that (as we all came into the world that way), even in one scene which Michiru talked about Adam and Eve where they looked sorta like Usagi and Mamoru could be seen like that, but the problem with the challenge thing is all of those things were only for prurient interests only.

Crazily enough perverted fans once suggested an attack sequence like that for the anime but Kazuko Tadano rightfully pointed out that the target audience at the time (young children) would have been turned off by that.

The only hentai I looked at/saw that I ended up thinking was actually damn good was a more obscure one called "Class Reunion: Yesterday Once More" but even then and there, that really was more of an adult romantic drama, and at least then and there, all of the characters were of legal age (in episode one all of them except one character named Makoto [not Makoto from Sailor Moon obviously] who's 19 but later turns 20, are drinking wine and 20's legal drinking age in Japan). Other ones I saw I only liked because of the hilariously/intentionally-aware-of-how-bad-this-hentai-anime-is dubs.
 
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Not always some hentai are just romantic love stories. Yes those exist where the misfortune happens but in some cases the women can triumph. Probably my favorite erotica whether it is hentai or not are beautiful, sensual, romantic and pornographic love stories. With both parties consenting, surrendering and giving into their mutual love and desires. I do of course like violent and horror hentai because I like violent and horrific movies but as a romantic first and foremost I love beautiful sensual love stories in erotica and porn.
Yeah but most of them are just using the female for sexual conquest. So I keep away with the ones I really like. Not saying I don't watch other anime's hentai at all, I have to be to be honest.

Different taste here, I prefer pure romantic soul love. A Kiss and embrace at most. Just my taste here.
 
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Those nude scenes were more for artistic purposes/purity, as Japan sees nudity as a form of that (as we all came into the world that way), even in one scene which Michiru talked about Adam and Eve where they looked sorta like Usagi and Mamoru could be seen like that, but the problem with the challenge thing is all of those things were only for prurient interests only.

Crazily enough perverted fans once suggested an attack sequence like that for the anime but Kazuko Tadano rightfully pointed out that the target audience at the time (young children) would have been turned off by that.

The only hentai I looked at/saw that I ended up thinking was actually damn good was a more obscure one called "Class Reunion: Yesterday Once More" but even then and there, that really was more of an adult romantic drama, and at least then and there, all of the characters were of legal age (in episode one all of them except one character named Makoto [not Makoto from Sailor Moon obviously] who's 19 but later turns 20, are drinking wine and 20's legal drinking age in Japan). Other ones I saw I only liked because of the hilariously/intentionally-aware-of-how-bad-this-hentai-anime-is dubs.
Yeah I understand the purpose. Not only Japan does that. I don't like those hentai-like challenge redraws, but I don't think it's a HUGE deal so I just skip them. I also understand some ppl got pissed off with it.

Weirdly the more I like a character, the more I avoid anything sexual about her. Michiru is the most beautiful senshi to me, and all of her other costumes are better than her swimming suit in my eyes.
 

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whatever happened to just enjoying an anime for what it is SMH

anyways I agree with all 3 of your views ^^^ @Maria SailorSpySedna and Slowpokeking

sometimes those things are left to the eye of the beholder because many people will feel different about the same thing
 
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Yeah but most of them are just using the female for sexual conquest. So I keep away with the ones I really like. Not saying I don't watch other anime's hentai at all, I have to be to be honest.

Different taste here, I prefer pure romantic soul love. A Kiss and embrace at most. Just my taste here.
The one I saw was more romantic or such than anything, but yeah, I hate the type that just treats females like objects.

whatever happened to just enjoying an anime for what it is SMH

anyways I agree with all 3 of your views ^^^ @Maria SailorSpySedna and Slowpokeking

sometimes those things are left to the eye of the beholder because many people will feel different about the same thing
Sadly it can be hard to when it comes to fandoms.
 
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