I wish Toei would sell SM rights...

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blondibear_17

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They clearly have no interest in this franchise anymore, and it honestly pains me such beloved franchise is in hands of these cheapskates, when i think about what great things Madhouse would do with Sailor Moon, im really sad :(
Ugh man I could totally picture how badass that would be if they pulled a Hunter x Hunter for a Sailor Moon remake that would be boss.
 

Maraviollantes

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REALISTIC SCENARIO OF TOEI & NAOKO SELLING BSSM:

A) Sailor Moon is Naoko's golden ticket to life of sportcars, mansions "full of golden things", and doing nothing for the rest of her life. In the unlikely hypothetical scenario of her agreeing to sell the franchise, it will be for a huge sum of money exceeding everything she can hope to drain out of it with the franchise still being in her hands. We are talking about hundreds of millions dollars here, at the very least.

B) The company buying it will be a for-profit business, not some philanthropic fan who just wants to make all of us happy. In order to return everything they paid and make some profit, they will be forced to drag the series through the mud and force our Usagi to work like a prostitute promoting every filthy advertiser who cares to throw a few dollars her way, including various shady businesses like cryptocurrencies, online casino, viagra pills, and what not. And in case of new series/reboot, it will have yet smaller budget and yet worse outsourced "artists" than Crystal, due to the same reasons. Crystal will look like a piece of art compared to what such company would churn out desperately trying to cut production costs and make profits from their new franchise.

C) Do we really want to see all of this happening? P-:
 
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REALISTIC SCENARIO OF TOEI & NAOKO SELLING BSSM:

A) Sailor Moon is Naoko's golden ticket to life of sportcars, mansions "full of golden things", and doing nothing for the rest of her life. In the unlikely hypothetical scenario of her agreeing to sell the franchise, it will be for a huge sum of money exceeding everything she can hope to drain out of it with the franchise still being in her hands. We are talking about hundreds of millions dollars here, at the very least.

B) The company buying it will be a for-profit business, not some philanthropic fan who just wants to make all of us happy. In order to return everything they paid and make some profit, they will be forced to drag the series through the mud and force our Usagi to work like a prostitute promoting every filthy advertiser who cares to throw a few dollars her way, including various shady businesses like cryptocurrencies, online casino, viagra pills, and what not. And in case of new series/reboot, it will have yet smaller budget and yet worse outsourced "artists" than Crystal, due to the same reasons. Crystal will look like a piece of art compared to what such company would churn out desperately trying to cut production costs and make profits from their new franchise.

C) Do we really want to see all of this happening? P-:
Lmao...I am dead!!! Hahahahahaha
 
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So the copyright laws, ironically, could also kill creativity. lol
Remember that under the original US copyright laws, copyright only lasted 14-28 years, registration with the Copyright Office was required, it wasn't considered property or inheritable, only US citizens could get one, there were no trademarks, and violation wasn't a criminal offense.
 
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REALISTIC SCENARIO OF TOEI & NAOKO SELLING BSSM:

A) Sailor Moon is Naoko's golden ticket to life of sportcars, mansions "full of golden things", and doing nothing for the rest of her life. In the unlikely hypothetical scenario of her agreeing to sell the franchise, it will be for a huge sum of money exceeding everything she can hope to drain out of it with the franchise still being in her hands. We are talking about hundreds of millions dollars here, at the very least.

B) The company buying it will be a for-profit business, not some philanthropic fan who just wants to make all of us happy. In order to return everything they paid and make some profit, they will be forced to drag the series through the mud and force our Usagi to work like a prostitute promoting every filthy advertiser who cares to throw a few dollars her way, including various shady businesses like cryptocurrencies, online casino, viagra pills, and what not. And in case of new series/reboot, it will have yet smaller budget and yet worse outsourced "artists" than Crystal, due to the same reasons. Crystal will look like a piece of art compared to what such company would churn out desperately trying to cut production costs and make profits from their new franchise.

C) Do we really want to see all of this happening? P-:

The only thing I disagree with is the hundreds of millions of dollars.

By being inactive and restrictive with the franchise, Naoko Takeuchi/PNP and TOEI have devalued the franchise significantly.

I'd estimate the franchise could be bought for $50 million or less. As Tuxedo Unmasked wrote, TOEI really only made about $5 million per year recently, and that was in an active year. An average is more like $3 million a year. This means the franchise is losing in terms of sales. A franchise's sales strongly indicate what it is worth.

Yes, it's more money than any of us have, but this franchise could easily be purchased on the cheap, because whoever buys it would have to put in a ton of work and money to make it profitable.

If Naoko Takuechi and TOEI were to hold out for $100 million, they wouldn't get it at this rate. Even with the Olympics and the movies, Sailor Moon won't get that much of a boost.
 

Maraviollantes

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The only thing I disagree with is the hundreds of millions of dollars.

By being inactive and restrictive with the franchise, Naoko Takeuchi/PNP and TOEI have devalued the franchise significantly.

I'd estimate the franchise could be bought for $50 million or less. As Tuxedo Unmasked wrote, TOEI really only made about $5 million per year recently, and that was in an active year. An average is more like $3 million a year. This means the franchise is losing in terms of sales. A franchise's sales strongly indicate what it is worth.

Yes, it's more money than any of us have, but this franchise could easily be purchased on the cheap, because whoever buys it would have to put in a ton of work and money to make it profitable.

If Naoko Takuechi and TOEI were to hold out for $100 million, they wouldn't get it at this rate. Even with the Olympics and the movies, Sailor Moon won't get that much of a boost.
Elon Musk's Tesla supposedly not only didn't make any money, but reported net loss of over $700 millions for 2018. If you use reported profits as the main criterion for brand/franchise worth, then what your fair price for "Tesla" brand would be? P-:

Reported profits is not the same thing as real money ending up in the pockets of company managers. Reported profits is what remains after all CEOs, board of directors, and who not, get their checks, their bonus payments, their royalties, their sportcars and mansions, and whatever else is written in their contracts as obligatory payments. This way some hypothetical company can get $100 millions per year in real profits, spend $95 millions on "operational costs" in the form of Porsche sportcars and mansions "full of golden things" for their top managers and retired manga authors, and report the remaining $5 millions as income.
 
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^ Unlike the days of Marx, when the capitalists were exploiting the workers, nowadays it's the CEOs & top management staff exploiting the small investors. lol
 
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Maybe we should just turn one of the knock-off toys like Planet Girl or Pretty Sailor Annie into a competitive franchise :lol:
Maybe not Planet Girl or Pretty Sailor Annie, but there’s definitely room for a magical girl brand that is not as saccharine as Precure, while not being grim dark/aimed for men like some of the recent darker magical girl series.