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MementoNepenthe

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The manga not being afraid of making Mamoru look like a bit of a goofball also helps a ton.
One of the complaints Naoko had with the original anime was that they made Mamoru too goofy. I feel like she might have told the Crystal staff she wanted Mamoru to be cooler, like he is in PGSM, but they went overboard and, like Rei, made him devoid of personality.
 
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One of the complaints Naoko had with the original anime was that they made Mamoru too goofy. I feel like she might have told the Crystal staff she wanted Mamoru to be cooler, like he is in PGSM, but they went overboard and, like Rei, made him devoid of personality.
Ikuhara sure shipped Usagi and Rei. #Usei::toast:
 
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The Void
I know that I am behind a few episodes, playing catch-up, but there are a few things in the past episodes I thought were ok.

One thing, when Umino is under the thrall of the DK, he has Professor Tomoe face.
Spoiler: show

another thing I liked was seeing Mamoru as a child.
Spoiler: show


Now for the current episode, I don't think it was too bad. I little too exposition-y for an anime, but it was alright. The horror enthusiast was kinda sad they toned down Usagi's nightmare of Mamoru's death, so he is only blasted away, no skull exposure, but I understand trying to keep it within kid standards.
 
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Sorry guys, but it was hell of a week for me, so I am a bit late with this one. But here we are.
Act. 10 MOON
Well, this episode was a bit problematic for me. I consider it a decent episode, but I have some issues with it. Here they are.
1. Pacing is off - The transition berween the two halfs was jarring. The first part was very exposition heavy, which would have been fine if they used animation and not slideshow off stills. I especially hated the way Serenity stabbing herself was not animated and the very weird way they showed her dead body over Endimion's. It looked very weird and ugly.
2. This episode was mostly done by Akira Takahashi. He was not a bad animation director, but he didn't even try to follow the character designs at all. It is very jarring because his style was simplified and very inconsistent with scenes done by other animators. That is my problem with him being designer for season 3. I understand why they decided to do it, but him mixed the rest in the first two seasons was very odd.
3. The way the girls just stopped and whined as soon as Venus told them about the generals amids a battle. So cringy. They really committed to make every original material beig strange and opening huge plotholes. This scene makes the next episide unbearbly stupid. So it is wuite obvious here that these guys are brainwashed and they even tried to reach them. Then the very next episode nobody said this is Mamoru being brainwashed, but claimed this is not Mamoru at all and Usagi being all "You are not Tuxedo Mask" feels extremally dumb. They make changes but then keep on adapting the manga, without taking their own changes into account. Some bad fanfiction writing skills.
4. Can we please stop using the cliche red eyes on brainwashed characters. It is just so unimaginative. I much rather liked the vague eyes in the manga and the old show.
5. The other added scene with the generals snooping on Beryl was ok, but ended so anthyclimatically. So it took her three seconds to brainwash them again. If they are this weak, why do you need them in the first place. If she could brainwash so easily she could have brainwashed the girls and get it over with in 5 seconds. In the manga it was just Mamoru and it took time and Metallia's dark energy, so at least for me it was implied she cannot do it on her own. But here she brainwashed the generals with ease.

Otherwise a good episode. I liked how Queen Serenity as serene as she is was voiced by the same actress who voiced the obnoxious Esmeraude in the old show. I liked some of the animation in the second half of the episode, but only the movement animation, definetely not the strange downgraded character designs. Overall very mixed feelings for this one.
 

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Behind You! BOO!
It's well known the orginal director of the the first anime, Kunihiko Ikuhara, did not like Mamo-chan at all.
 
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Sorry for the delay guys. I guess some are ahead of me now, but it couldn't be helped. Act 11 Reunion - Endimion or How to fill up precious air time with stock footage. Instead of rearranging some events to use their time properly and to save up unexisting budget Toei decided to spend more than 5 minutes on transformations. The whole episode was a hot mess thanks to the alteration to the previous one. So last episode they fought and tried to heal not one but four brainwashed guys. On this one they see Endo and act like moron. This is not Mamoru, he is a different person, imposter. Later on Usagi is about to believe he is dead... Well this is what happens when you decide to change stuff on a whim and just pretend they never happened. Once again very strange direction to limit movement. I hadto explain to my niece which I am watching the show with that Rei hits Makoto, because that part is done in such a way that it is not clear what is going on. For many people act 12 was the worst episode, but for me this is the one desirving the prize. And where did Artemis vanishes? He is there in the next episode, but he doesn't show up to help Luna... I guess the brilliant writer forgot his existence.
 
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It's well known the orginal director of the the first anime, Kunihiko Ikuhara, did not like Mamo-chan at all.
Is there actual proof he said this? Or is this fandom heresy?

For not supposedly liking the guy he had no qualms giving him focus in the first film he came up with.

The only thing evidence I’ve seen that Ikuhara doesn’t think much of Mamoru is his reduced role from S onward. But that coincided with more characters. There wasn’t much to do with Mamoru. Him and Usagi were together. His character arc was completed. He had nowhere to go and he really didn’t get any worse treatment than the Inners did tbh.

I would just like to see a direct quote that Ikuhara hated the guy.
 
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Is there actual proof he said this? Or is this fandom heresy?

For not supposedly liking the guy he had no qualms giving him focus in the first film he came up with.

The only thing evidence I’ve seen that Ikuhara doesn’t think much of Mamoru is his reduced role from S onward. But that coincided with more characters. There wasn’t much to do with Mamoru. Him and Usagi were together. His character arc was completed. He had nowhere to go and he really didn’t get any worse treatment than the Inners did tbh.

I would just like to see a direct quote that Ikuhara hated the guy.
They actually mentioned in on several occasions. Especially Ikuhara.
 
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Is there actual proof he said this? Or is this fandom heresy?

For not supposedly liking the guy he had no qualms giving him focus in the first film he came up with.

The only thing evidence I’ve seen that Ikuhara doesn’t think much of Mamoru is his reduced role from S onward. But that coincided with more characters. There wasn’t much to do with Mamoru. Him and Usagi were together. His character arc was completed. He had nowhere to go and he really didn’t get any worse treatment than the Inners did tbh.

I would just like to see a direct quote that Ikuhara hated the guy.
Ikuhara said this about Mamoru in an interview:



''Q: Ikuhara-san, Utena and Sailor Moon are two of the most popular anime amongst yuri fans. Do you intentionally include shoujo-ai subtexts in your work?

A: No. I'm still able to make a story where it's between a boy and a girl. But I feel irritated to see my girl getting together with some other guy. I've tried to kill off Tuxedo Mask in Sailor Moon many times. But no matter how many times I tried to kill him, he gets resurrected so I only get angrier. So I decided it would be way better if the girl just didn't have a boyfriend to begin with. Of course I'm just kidding. In reality, if I have a guy in the show, the love relationship gets to have a bigger role than the show. And that would be an interesting element, but I wouldn't want that to make that the scene-stealer of the show. Most other shoujo shows are in that direction. It's about who-and-who are getting together, or who-and-who are breaking up. I thought it would be a loss if that would be the big motif just because a girl was the main character. I think there could be more shows with other motives than that.''
 

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I gave up as nobody else posted reviews of the episodes. It doesn't mean somebody else cannot continue, I would join them.
Probably because Crystal Act 12 and 13 are one of worst episodes in entire series, both Classic and Crystal, personally, since premiere, i havent watched them ever again, and i plan to stick on that, unless im payed :)
 
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Probably because Crystal Act 12 and 13 are one of worst episodes in entire series, both Classic and Crystal, personally, since premiere, i havent watched them ever again, and i plan to stick on that, unless im payed :)
It is not because of that. I don't hate them as much, it is just that very few people participated in it and it started feeling awkward.