Sailor Moon Classic Sailor Moon Sailor Stars movies

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MariaTenebre

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Hi guys I believe there was a thread about this before elsewhere but I thought it would be a fun topic to explore again. Of the 5 seasons of the show only three seasons R, S and SuperS seasons were given movies the first season and the last season Sailor Moon Sailor Stars were not. So I thought it would be a cool idea to ask if you all could give these seasons movies what would you have their stories be?
 
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Classic could have been Sailor Moon - Gaiden Dark Kingdom Fukkatsu Hen mixed with the PC Engine Game where the generals and queen Beryl are revived and the SenshiXShittenou would have been properly handled (compared to Crystal).

StarS could be a post-anime special where we can introduce a new faction of Shadow Galactica with the Senshi who were in the manga but never in the anime. Their motive is to find Chaos and aim to allow it to manifest into a physical form (Sailor Chaos). Heavy Metal Papillion could be the leader with Phi and Chi being the second in command with Sailor Lethe and Sailor Mnemosyne being Sailor Soldiers who were recruited against their will.
 
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I feel the PC Engine's story could have actually worked as the R movie in a way honestly (though I still love the R movie) and I like the idea for the Stars movie too.
 
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The first season should have had its movie, but I assume it didn’t because TOEI didn’t imagine “Sailor Moon” would become such a hit—and I believe that for TOEI it was more “urgent” to create a second season.

Stars should have had its own movie, in my opinion, but by the time that the last episode of Stars aired “Sailor Moon” wasn’t as much of a hit as before and TOEI just wanted to end the show.

I am not sure, I am just speculating here, but I believe Naoko was not “happy” with the R movie because she was not involved. She wrote that she wanted to be included in the movies and she thanked the animation team for letting her become involved in the S movie and for adapting the story that she wrote (see the “Princess Kaguya” manga/short story).
 
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The first season should have had its movie, but I assume it didn’t because TOEI didn’t imagine “Sailor Moon” would become such a hit—and I believe that for TOEI it was more “urgent” to create a second season.

Stars should have had its own movie, in my opinion, but by the time that the last episode of Stars aired “Sailor Moon” wasn’t as much of a hit as before and TOEI just wanted to end the show.

I am not sure, I am just speculating here, but I believe Naoko was not “happy” with the R movie because she was not involved. She wrote that she wanted to be included in the movies and she thanked the animation team for letting her become involved in the S movie and for adapting the story that she wrote (see the “Princess Kaguya” manga/short story).
Actually, Naoko stated that back then, she made a fuss to be more involved in the S movie because she felt the R movie deviated too much from the concepts she discussed with Toei.
And yeah, Sailor Stars wasn't exactly a flop, but its return in ratings and money didn't live up to what Toei expected from a Sailor Moon product. It was even worse than SuperS, whose theatrical movie was a box office flop already.
 
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I love the “S” movie and even bought the Blu-ray, new, and I don’t commonly buy DVDs or BDs, new or used, unless they are meaningful to me. I love Luna.
 
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Hi guys I believe there was a thread about this before elsewhere but I thought it would be a fun topic to explore again. Of the 5 seasons of the show only three seasons R, S and SuperS seasons were given movies the first season and the last season Sailor Moon Sailor Stars were not. So I thought it would be a cool idea to ask if you all could give these seasons movies what would you have their stories be?
The threads to which you refer are below:

What if there were a Sailor Moon Classic animated movie?

What if there were a Sailor Moon Sailor Stars animated movie

Concerning potential plots, the movies are meant to be standalone tales with new antagonists and a hypothetical entry point for people to watch Sailor Moon. That's why I would be averse to feature antagonists that already appeared in the anime except as possibly a mention. My thoughts are unchanged from those years ago for Classic. I'd either rather see either a criminal from the Silver Millennium sent to the future, but reborn alongside, or a Return of Danburite. After thinking about it, though, I could combine the two. This is literally off the top of my head and full of plot holes, but here's my idea.

The Classic movie would open up with a retelling of Queen Serenity sealing the enemy away, then sending them to the future. It would show both monsters and humans bathed in the light, as well as a figure who was trapped. Danburite is shown crawling, beaten up, but then grasps a black crystal.

At the same time Ami, Mako, and Usagi are in class with Umino and Naru. There is another student, Senko Hirai, who looks on at the group enviously. No one ever seems to see her.

After school, in Juuban Park, there is an attack by a seemingly random monster. The Sailor Guardians fight and beat the monster, then revert the monster to a human. However, there is a card left at the scene. Sailor Venus is shell-shocked at it, as it means that her old enemy, Danburite, is alive.

Danburite then goes around targeting random people, turning them into energy stealing monsters. Between Rei consulting the fire and Ami using her mini computer, the two of them figure out the victims are fallen Dark Kingdom who were sent to the future. They realize that since he's targeting people instead of picking people at random, he must have a plan.

There is also a scene Senko witnesses an attack and thinks to herself the Sailor Guardians are annoying, and roots for the monster from a distance (this would be Sailor Jupiter's big moment as she would pull some awesome move to help save the day). He then reawakens the leader of the biggest rebellion on the Silver Millennium, Syzygy, who. aforementioned Senko at Juuban Municipal Junior High School

Interspersed we would get scenes of Sailor Venus as Sailor V fighting alongside Kaitou Ace (who is also a celebrity, as in the manga), only for him to reveal himself as Danburite. We would also get a flashback scene where Silver Millennium Sailor Venus led an army against the followers of Syzygy. Back then, Adonis struck the fatal blow, but Sailor Venus was oblivious, only tending to her fellow Sailor, Kunzite, and most of all Princess Serenity.

We would then get to see Danburite's story, first as Adonis, and his later fall into the sway of the Dark Kingdom. He and the reawakened Syzygy now decide to get revenge on those who shunned them in their past life and this one, and reveals to her the identities of the Sailor Guardians, to her shock.

Obviously this leads into a showdown of the combined forced, where Syzygy reveals that with the power of the eclipse, she is able to absorb energy herself via a magical eclipse that begins to spread over Tokto. She mentions she would create a new Kingdom - not a Dark Kingdom or a Moon Kingdom but permanent Eclipse Kingdom where the moon blots out the sun. In the end, there is the climactic fight, and of course, Danburite is now the lackey, and . Danburite fights Sailor Venus, and though she beats him, she still can't finish him off. That is when Sailor Moon comes in and does...with Moon Healing Escalation. Then the heroes fight Senko, with Princess Serenity re-emerging, but instead of imprisoning Syzygy like her mother did, she uses Moon Healing Escalation..and Syzygy seemingly disappears.

At the end, the scene is of a generic reporter commenting that news reports are that of Kaitou Ace who is in the hospital, without much of his memory and . In the same hospital is Senko, who has only lost the memory of being Syzygy, and the two of each other run into each other into the halls and begin to talk. The tabloids run with the rumor that she's his new girlfriend, and she realizes that everyone is going to see her now, and is happy.

Minako looks on from a distance and throws away the red mask of Sailor V and rejoins her friends.
Concerning the Stars movie, I don't have as strong of an idea, given the theme of Stars is both the cosmos and the idea of Sailor Guardians from outside the Solar System, why not have the Starlights come back and ask our heroes for help, and the Sailor Guardias go across the Galaxy? There's a new group of eight (who would correspond with the eight Sailor Guardians, so a sea creature of Neptune, an eagle for Uranus, etc) who have fallen into Chaos and are terrorizing other planets. As part of as cameo for extra-Solar system Guardians there could be the Sailor Quartet making a background appearance, as well as the healed Animamates, and even a Makaiju alien Sailor Guardian. From here, though, it could be more like the manga in that Chaos gains the upper hand, Sailor Moon must head to the source of all life to make a difficult choice.

I hate Stars, though, so I have nothing.

Actually, Naoko stated that back then, she made a fuss to be more involved in the S movie because she felt the R movie deviated too much from the concepts she discussed with Toei.
This is disappointing, especially since the R movie is essentially a stripped down distillation of both Classic (antagonist is interested in Mamoru and twisted by a mysterious force to steal him away and be evil, Sailor Moon draws on the power and memory of her friends to beat the baddies) and both halves of R (the design of Fiore, the presence of Chibi-Usa, the redemption of Fiore in learning of what love is). By contrast, the S and SuperS movies feature bad guys who are evil just for being evil and do not even parallel the plot beats. The SuperS movie has dreams as a theme at least, but the S movie has nothing to do with either the Infinity arc or Sailor Moon S - and it's a manga side story.
 
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True, but as a movie it is seemingly far afield of what the animated series is about, not merely in a "aimed at casual/new fans" way, but "Is this even Sailor Moon?" way. It is a great adaptation of the manga side story...but when compared with the rest of the animated series, it just seems odd.

To paraphrase Sabrblade, Sailor Moon R the movie is the essence of the best of Sailor Moon and a great way to show people what Sailor Moon is about in a self-contained bite. It's what happens when you distill all of the monster of the day plots and arc finales into an hour-long film. Also, it is a decent movie, as it's not overcrowded like the S movie is (which aside from Luna's crush arc is essentially a big fight) or meaningless like the SuperS movie is.

That Naoko Takeuchi wanted more movies to be like S means that she doesn't have a grasp of what the animated canon was like and why it deviated from her concepts.
 
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I've never come across a quote or interview from Naoko where she says she felt the R movie strayed from the concept of Sailor Moon (source?), only that she was "stressed by the fact [she] let other people do [the movie]." That is, rather than an original story from the anime staff, she wanted a movie based on the manga, thus why she wrote the Princess Kaguya's Lover side story. (Of course she didn't end up writing a manga side story for the SuperS movie, but she did do the character designs, so maybe she *had* intended to write a manga story for it but then didn't for whatever reason?)