Sailor Moon & Others........Tokyo 2020 Olympic Ambassadors?!

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#41
Maraviollantes said:
Rika-Chicchi said:
^ W/o a helmet & appropriate outfits for the sport, Bean doesn't look professional there, tho. lol
Outfits are for amateurs. He can cycle at top speed without any effort so he doesn't even sweat. :o
By the same token, he doesn't need a helmet at all since he's so superb in the sport that it's a totally redundant accessory. lol
 

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SailorWelshy said:
Okay, You're REALLY grasping at straws here.
By pointing out the holes in your theory?
SailorWelshy said:
Also what do Batman and Robin have to do with what I said? They weren't at the London 2012 Olympics, because they're AMERICAN creations.
And they had two performers in their outfits.
SailorLinda1 said:
my point is that the Olympics is not just a sporting event, it's also a huge platform for the host countries to promote its culture and pop culture to the rest of the world, and Japan is not the "only" host country to use ambassadors that are merely based on popularity and worldwide recognition, and nor will they be the last country to do that either.
And my point is that they have a lot of choice of internationally recognizable cultural icons that are sportspeople, so choosing representatives merely based on popularity is stupid. And one could even take offense.
SailorLinda1 said:
and what about Mary Poppins and Mr Bean then? Are you implying I'm an "idiot"? I do not appreciate being called an "idiot" when I have done nothing to warrant that uncalled for insult, just how was I acting like an "idiot" when I was merely stating the facts? And you are just sounding desperate now.
If you have a problem with the selection of anime characters as ambassadors for the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, then you should take that up with the Tokyo organization committee, not me. I did not pick those anime characters as ambassadors, your uncalled for insult is misdirected.
I'm not calling you an idiot, I'm calling the guys who made the unsporty choices idiots. The ones for Tokyo 2020 and the ones for London 2012.
And just to prove it, I can easily list a few choices for Italy that are easily recognizable and sportsmen (including a really bad one, because even if he was a bit inappropriate for political reasons he was still a sportsguy and a fitness fanatic):
Valentino Rossi (not an olympic sportsman, but anyone who says motorcycle racing isn't a sport has never tried to ride a motorcycle);
Don Camillo (amateur pugilist);
most Roman emperors and assimilables in general, and Julius Caesar in particular (fitness fanatics, all of them. Also, Caesar was a master swordsman);
Fiore dei Liberi (master swordsman. Italy is quite big in fencing), and his many other ancient master swordsmen;
Gianluca Vialli, and our many other champion football players;
Bud Spencer, who could have appeared in person 'till last year. Bonus points for actually being a former Olympic athlete who got in the semifinals in two different Olympics (Helsinki 1952 and Melbourne 1956) in 100m freestyle swimming;
the politically bad choice: Benito Mussolini. Fitness fanatic like few ever were outside actual and aspiring Olympic athletes;
Italy's universally recognizable soldiers, the Bersaglieri. A literal army of extremely fit guys who also love to show off.
SailorLinda1 said:
And btw Batman had nothing to do with the 2012 London Olympics because he's an American creation, not British, so I don't know why you mentioned him.
As said above, two of the performers were in Batman and Robin disguises.
 

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#43
lord Martiya said:
SailorWelshy said:
Okay, You're REALLY grasping at straws here.
By pointing out the holes in your theory?
What holes? You haven't proven anything. Stop acting like a smart alec.


And they had two performers in their outfits.
As said above, two of the performers were in Batman and Robin
THEY'RE NOT BATMAN AND ROBIN!!!!

I'm not calling you an idiot, I'm calling the guys who made the unsporty choices idiots. The ones for Tokyo 2020 and the ones for London 2012.
How DARE you call the planners idiots, the UK Planners put a lot of damn work into making the London Olympics special, and spent millions of pounds on it, and it was hugely successful.
So I'm supporting the Tokyo Games all the way, especially in light of your comments, that because they won't obey your commands they're all idiots.

And my point is that they have a lot of choice of internationally recognizable cultural icons that are sportspeople, so choosing representatives merely based on popularity is stupid. And one could even take offense.
How the HECK would anyone take offense on a country celebrating its own culture??????? In fact I'M offended here, because you're saying that our countries can't celebrate our own cultures.
 

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#45
Maraviollantes said:
SailorWelshy said:
How the HECK would anyone take offense on a country celebrating its own culture??????? In fact I'M offended here, because you're saying that our countries can't celebrate our own cultures.
I'm offended by you taking an offence at other people being offended. :x
Well I'm offended that you're offended at me taking offence at other people being offended. :evillaugh:
 
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lord Martiya said:
SailorLinda1 said:
true, but why not think about it from a different perspective, like you said it is the Olympic Games, the biggest sporting event in the world, and they want animated characters that will help to attract more people to the event, who would they choose? The famous and beloved anime characters that many people know and love all around the world and they know would help to attract people worldwide to the event, or characters that hardly anyone outside Japan knows and do not have the capability to help attract international interest and attention?
Of course being the Olympics, there will surely be many people worldwide going to the event in Tokyo in 2020 anyway. But, they also want popular anime characters that represent Japan's pop culture, the Olympics is not just a sporting event, it's also a huge platform for Japan to promote its diverse culture and pop culture to the world, and one of Japan's biggest and most successful and popular exports to the world is anime, and they want anime characters that are iconic and famous not just in Japan, but also to many people worldwide to help promote Japan's pop culture and attract more interest.
And they still have sporty ones. Such as the alternative Cures I've suggested.
Or, just to name one that is hugely popular in Europe and South America: Tsubasa Ozora.

But there not that popular . They would pick ones that are more common . Ones that were dubbed in other launguages , and semi recognizable . like Sailor moon , DBZ, and speed tracer
 

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#47
SailorWelshy said:
Maraviollantes said:
SailorWelshy said:
How the HECK would anyone take offense on a country celebrating its own culture??????? In fact I'M offended here, because you're saying that our countries can't celebrate our own cultures.
I'm offended by you taking an offence at other people being offended. :x
Well I'm offended that you're offended at me taking offence at other people being offended. :evillaugh:
I'm offended by anyone who's offended here, (hence) including myself. :googly:
 

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#48
SailorWelshy said:
What holes? You haven't proven anything. Stop acting like a smart alec.
I have, and you should just give it up.
SailorWelshy said:
THEY'RE NOT BATMAN AND ROBIN!!!!
They had performers in their costumes. Good enough for me. Also, please stop virtua-shouting.
SailorWelshy said:
How DARE you call the planners idiots, the UK Planners put a lot of ☹ work into making the London Olympics special, and spent millions of pounds on it, and it was hugely successful.
I dare because that's an idiotic choice, even if the other ones worked, and because I'm starting to get annoyed at your mirror-climbing. Maybe I've got overboard, but that's still an idiotic choice.
SailorWelshy said:
So I'm supporting the Tokyo Games all the way, especially in light of your comments, that because they won't obey your commands they're all idiots.
My comments is that's an idiotic choice.
SailorWelshy said:
How the HECK would anyone take offense on a country celebrating its own culture???????
As an amateur sportsman myself, I'd feel rather offended if Italy hosted the Olympics again and our Olympic ambassador was a lazy ass. Especially because we have plenty of sportsman icons in our culture.
Exactly as Japan does. Such as this guy.

This is Naoto Date/Tiger Mask, protagonist of a wrestling manga from the late sixties and early seventies and related anime. Thanks to his immense fame, that crossed national borders (for example he was really popular in Korea, and is still really popular here in Italy), in 1981 the New Japan Pro Wrestling promotion debuted his gimmick in real life, gimmick that as of this moment is shared by two different fighters, Yoshihiro Yamazaki (Tiger Mask IV) and Kota Ibushi (Tiger Mask W), plus, until a while ago, Ikuhisa Minowa (Tiger Mask V, fighting in the MMA circuit. He now fights as Minowaman). The fame also endures in the anime Tiger Mask W, currently being broadcast. And, to make him an even better candidate, in 2010 and 2011 a number of donations to children's homes and other social welfare centers were made with the alias "Naoto Date", a reference to the manga character's own anonymous donations to orphanages (indeed, the only ones who know this are his childhood friend Ruriko, who has figured out Naoto is Tiger Mask and is maintaining her orphanage with his job as a wrestler, and Giant Baba, who noticed that whenever Tiger Mask moved in a new town for the World Big League tournament he would disappear and the local orphanage would get an anonymous donation).

I dare say Tiger Mask would have been the perfect Olympic ambassador: trained incredibly hard to excel at his sport, succeeded, and also proved himself a good person by maintaining the orphanage he grew up in and donating to many others without using it to increase his fame.
SailorWelshy said:
In fact I'M offended here, because you're saying that our countries can't celebrate our own cultures.
Please don't misrepresent my words again. I did not say that.
imaginationgirl said:
But there not that popular . They would pick ones that are more common . Ones that were dubbed in other launguages , and semi recognizable . like Sailor moon , DBZ, and speed tracer
Sorry... Did you just say that Captain Tsubasa is not recognizable? Here in Italy many can sing the opening song from memory, and the series is equally if not more popular in the rest of Europe plus Latin America.
 

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I have, and you should just give it up.
You have not, you're living in your own fantasy world if you think that.


They had performers in their costumes. Good enough for me. Also, please stop virtua-shouting.
Again, living in your own fantasy world, also, NO I WON'T STOP VITUA-SHOUTING!!!!!

I dare because that's an idiotic choice, even if the other ones worked.
And you don't find anything contradicting in that sentence?

As an amateur sportsman myself, I'd feel rather offended if Italy hosted the Olympics again and our Olympic ambassador was a lazy ☹. Especially because we have plenty of sportsman icons in our culture.
Awwwwww...... I feel so sorry for you, my heart bleeds for you. No actually it doesn't.

Please don't misrepresent my words again. I did not say that.
You might as well have.

Sorry... Did you just say that Captain Tsubasa is not recognizable? Here in Italy many can sing the opening song from memory, and the series is equally if not more popular in the rest of Europe plus Latin America.
Let me take a leaf out of your page, "You should just give up."
 
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#50
lord Martiya said:
SailorWelshy said:
What holes? You haven't proven anything. Stop acting like a smart alec.
I have, and you should just give it up.
SailorWelshy said:
THEY'RE NOT BATMAN AND ROBIN!!!!
They had performers in their costumes. Good enough for me. Also, please stop virtua-shouting.
SailorWelshy said:
How DARE you call the planners idiots, the UK Planners put a lot of ☹ work into making the London Olympics special, and spent millions of pounds on it, and it was hugely successful.
I dare because that's an idiotic choice, even if the other ones worked, and because I'm starting to get annoyed at your mirror-climbing. Maybe I've got overboard, but that's still an idiotic choice.
SailorWelshy said:
So I'm supporting the Tokyo Games all the way, especially in light of your comments, that because they won't obey your commands they're all idiots.
My comments is that's an idiotic choice.
SailorWelshy said:
How the HECK would anyone take offense on a country celebrating its own culture???????
As an amateur sportsman myself, I'd feel rather offended if Italy hosted the Olympics again and our Olympic ambassador was a lazy ☹. Especially because we have plenty of sportsman icons in our culture.
Exactly as Japan does. Such as this guy. Well that italy , I never heard of it in the USA . I imagin a lot people havn't as well

This is Naoto Date/Tiger Mask, protagonist of a wrestling manga from the late sixties and early seventies and related anime. Thanks to his immense fame, that crossed national borders (for example he was really popular in Korea, and is still really popular here in Italy), in 1981 the New Japan Pro Wrestling promotion debuted his gimmick in real life, gimmick that as of this moment is shared by two different fighters, Yoshihiro Yamazaki (Tiger Mask IV) and Kota Ibushi (Tiger Mask W), plus, until a while ago, Ikuhisa Minowa (Tiger Mask V, fighting in the MMA circuit. He now fights as Minowaman). The fame also endures in the anime Tiger Mask W, currently being broadcast. And, to make him an even better candidate, in 2010 and 2011 a number of donations to children's homes and other social welfare centers were made with the alias "Naoto Date", a reference to the manga character's own anonymous donations to orphanages (indeed, the only ones who know this are his childhood friend Ruriko, who has figured out Naoto is Tiger Mask and is maintaining her orphanage with his job as a wrestler, and Giant Baba, who noticed that whenever Tiger Mask moved in a new town for the World Big League tournament he would disappear and the local orphanage would get an anonymous donation).

I dare say Tiger Mask would have been the perfect Olympic ambassador: trained incredibly hard to excel at his sport, succeeded, and also proved himself a good person by maintaining the orphanage he grew up in and donating to many others without using it to increase his fame.
SailorWelshy said:
In fact I'M offended here, because you're saying that our countries can't celebrate our own cultures.
Please don't misrepresent my words again. I did not say that.
imaginationgirl said:
But there not that popular . They would pick ones that are more common . Ones that were dubbed in other launguages , and semi recognizable . like Sailor moon , DBZ, and speed tracer
Sorry... Did you just say that Captain Tsubasa is not recognizable? Here in Italy many can sing the opening song from memory, and the series is equally if not more popular in the rest of Europe plus Latin America.
Well I never heard of it sorry
 

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Seriously I just don't believe this, us fans should be celebrating the fact that our favourite franchise is being represented in one of THE most important events in the world. And this guy is going on a huge lecture about how an anime with a tiger-man (which I never heard of anyway) should be there, because he an amateur-sportsman is offended that sports anime is not being represented.
 
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SailorWelshy said:
Seriously I just don't believe this, us fans should be celebrating the fact that our favourite franchise is being represented in one of THE most important events in the world. And this guy is going on a huge lecture about how an anime with a tiger-man (which I never heard of anyway) should be there, because he an amateur-sportsman is offended that sports anime is not being represented.
Well if there was any sport anime that was as popular as sailor moon . I would understand , but there none to my knowledge.
 

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imaginationgirl said:
SailorWelshy said:
Seriously I just don't believe this, us fans should be celebrating the fact that our favourite franchise is being represented in one of THE most important events in the world. And this guy is going on a huge lecture about how an anime with a tiger-man (which I never heard of anyway) should be there, because he an amateur-sportsman is offended that sports anime is not being represented.
Well if there was any sport anime that was as popular as sailor moon . I would understand , but there none to my knowledge.
Don't say that, this thread will get another lecture about a sports anime.
 

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#54
This topic sounds the least likely to trigger a heated argument like those on certain other Sailor Moon threads here, so it's a bit surprising to me that it does - now pls stop this pointless bickering everyone.
 
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Rika-Chicchi said:
This topic sounds the least likely to trigger a heated argument like those on certain other Sailor Moon threads here, so it's a bit surprising to me that it does - now pls stop this pointless bickering everyone.
Thank you, Rika-Chicchi.
 

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Rika-Chicchi said:
This topic sounds the least likely to trigger a heated argument like those on certain other Sailor Moon threads here, so it's a bit surprising to me that it does - now pls stop this pointless bickering everyone.
Roger that, boss.
NJ_ said:
Yeah, don't be Petty Cures. :lol:

Still not over that typo, it's easy to make jokes. :zoid:
Goddammit, I had managed not to make jokes on that... Oh, well, it was fate.
 

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I'm really excited to see Sailor Moon as an Olympic ambassador but I'm disappointed they didn't take this opportunity to include Akira since this is the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and all...
 

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With Attack on Titan being so hugely popular worldwide right now I'm surprised the committee did not include Eren Yeager the main protagonist from the story in their list of anime ambassadors too. I'm a bit disappointed by that because I love AoT too.

But at least SM is included as an ambassador and I couldn't be more happier to see my favorite manga/anime franchise being represented at the most important event in the world :thumbsup:
 

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SailorLinda1 said:
With Attack on Titan being so hugely popular worldwide right now I'm surprised the committee did not include Eren Yeager the main protagonist from the story in their list of anime ambassadors too. I'm a bit disappointed by that because I love AoT too.
If they did've considered that, it could be due to political reasons, as the anime has been criticized in certain neighboring countries. But personally I think it's just because it's still relatively too new to be a classic at present. :)