Season 4 movies update: Sailor Moon Eternal - Delayed to 2021 (Part 1 on January 8th & Part 2 on February 11th)

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The more I think about it, the more I believe Toei let this material leak on purpose to create some hype (I'm not really sensing a hype about the leak, do you?) and to lower expectations, so that we fans in the end will be pleased with the slightly improved end-product. Last weekend was supposed to be Anime Japan with some news about the project. They released nothing officially, even though there should be something ready to show.
I don't think a professional company is patron.
 
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It is authentic. Mexican fans have the prove that someone at Toei uploaded the video (they made a screenshot). So can we stop speculating if it's fanmade or not? The trailer is ufinished and not official, but the material is from Toei animation.

Although I have to admit that they have never looked so un-derpy (Mako looks great here), I hate that they look like the age of ChibiUsa in season 3. I'm quite sad about it :-(



 
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From what I recall, in the manga they only use their attacks once or twice, and they don't use any other attacks, so Eternal's use of stock footage is purely to bank on 90s anime nostalgia.
I'd imagine they'll make them attack more than once though. Crystal changed several manga battles like that. For example Ami is a part of battle in act 7 whereas in the manga she's at crown game center. In act 15 Jupiter and Venus are also there for the battle even though in the manga there's only Moon, Mars and Mercury. In act 27 all inners fight the daimon while in the manga its just Moon and Chibimoon.

I can see Inners use their new attacks against Xenotime, Zeolite and the quartet for example.
 
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I'd imagine they'll make them attack more than once though. Crystal changed several manga battles like that. For example Ami is a part of battle in act 7 whereas in the manga she's at crown game center. In act 15 Jupiter and Venus are also there for the battle even though in the manga there's only Moon, Mars and Mercury. In act 27 all inners fight the daimon while in the manga its just Moon and Chibimoon.

I can see Inners use their new attacks againts Xenotime, Zeolite and the quartet for example.
They might use different attacks incorporating old attacks the way Season 3 did, but with updated visuals. I see nothing wrong about it as long as they don't repeat footage. They might use sequence once when needed for accent and attack in real time after. I agree they do not look younger than season 3, and the Usagi close up looks quite age appropriate
 
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They don't look any younger than the style of Season 3 since... It's literally just the same scene from the last episode redrawn (and less off-model).
Sorry but Minako looks like a 8 year old girl. In season 3 they looked like 12 year old boys. Damn moe style, I really can't stand it.
 
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Sorry but Minako looks like a 8 year old girl. In season 3 they looked like 12 year old boys. Damn moe style, I really can't stand it.
At least they look like girls now. Plus this is the best far off shot we got in Crystal. Te worst frame I see is the one with Pegasus. This might be draft material and for the release it kight be cleaned up and further polished. This is leak, nobody at what stage of the production the person got the material. It is still not half as bad as we got before. A clearer image and a bit more polish will do wonders. The filtered and a bit clearer pose looks so much better with minimal enhancment in quality. Most of the detail is just los due to the low resolution. And despite all it looks pretty decent. I wish they were older, but we got the designs almost a year ago and this ship is long sunk.
 
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Seira Hazuki Have you done some filtering, your shot looks quite clear, and it does look best and the hair is on point, the pose is still a bit awkward though.

If they really use Moonlight Densetsu, I hope they at least use the version done by the Crystal cast, which was in the 25th anniversary album. It would be neat and the Momoiro Clover Z version is bad.
@sapphire91 Do you have a link to Moonlight Densetsu as sung by the Crystal cast? I'd love to hear it.
 
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@sapphire91 Do you have a link to Moonlight Densetsu as sung by the Crystal cast? I'd love to hear it.
Unfortunately I never heard the whole thig it is on a preview for the 25th anniversary album as bonus track. It is ripped but without the bonus tracks. I bought the album on itunes but it doesn't have it as well. They sound a lot like the classical version.

Venus and Mars outsing the rest, but it also makes sense.
 
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You can clearly see her holding the harp here:



That's why I don't think you can judge the attacks based on a few seconds of (low quality) footage. It's clear they're inspired by the '90s anime, but I think they're not showing everything.
That screenshot looks lovely so far, but hopefully it looks better when we see it in motion.
 
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That screenshot looks lovely so far, but hopefully it looks better when we see it in motion.
I'm not a convinced by the choregraphy so far for Mercury, but here they did a good job with the skirt and the ribbon, the shape and shadows make it look three-dimensional and vivid:



On the other hand, Jupiter's body looks really flat and I wish the shadows were more dramatic.




So iss this Venus just after her handkiss or did she just sneeze some corona-droplets? :luna::artemis:
Is anyone good/quick with photoshop and could remodel her nose the way it would look if it was made by Tadano-san?



EDIT: I made a quick nose-job on Venus the way I think it looks more like Tadano's style. Funny how it changes the face! She immediately looks older and, in my opinion, better.

 
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I have never seen a single anime fan base scrutinize an anime frame-by-frame the way that Sailor Moon fans do with Crystal.
Yeah but it is fun and no matter what we all say, no matter how much we criticize it we all love it, despite of it all. The proof - we all beg for more.

I'm not a convinced by the choregraphy so far for Mercury, but here they did a good job with the skirt and the ribbon, the shape and shadows make it look three-dimensional and vivid:



On the other hand, Jupiter's body looks really flat and I wish the shadows were more dramatic.




So iss this Venus just after her handkiss or did she just sneeze some corona-droplets? :luna::artemis:
Is anyone good/quick with photoshop and could remodel her nose the way it would look if it was made by Tadano-san?



EDIT: I made a quick nose-job on Venus the way I think it looks more like Tadano's style. Funny how it changes the face! She immediately looks older and, in my opinion, better.

Well Tadano's design is sadly nose free... She has forseen coronavirus. I'd rather have that instead of season 3 frog mouths.
 

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She's got a nose. The video quality is just so awful that it's taking out the lines. Look at her mouth or earlobes.

On a side note, moe is just used to describe any appealing and endearing character traits, physical or personality-wise. It's a highly subjective concept and, though it's origins are disputed, it's probably existed as a term since the 80's, and both the 90's anime and manga were considered moe.
It doesn't mean "artstyle from anything after 1999 that I don't like."
 
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On a side note, moe is just used to describe any appealing and endearing character traits, physical or personality-wise. It's a highly subjective concept and, though it's origins are disputed, it's probably existed as a term since the 80's, and both the 90's anime and manga were considered moe.
It doesn't mean "artstyle from anything after 1999 that I don't like."
Actually, it means exactly that (the part in italics). I don't recall ever seeing anybody on the Internet to use the term "moe" in a positive way ("Aww, it's so moe, it's my favorite anime!") While the word does originate from a Japanese verb that doesn't have any inherent negative meaning, within anime/manga fandom it is used exclusively to mock or criticize something.
 
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Yeah but it is fun and no matter what we all say, no matter how much we criticize it we all love it, despite of it all. The proof - we all beg for more.


Well Tadano's design is sadly nose free... She has forseen coronavirus. I'd rather have that instead of season 3 frog mouths.
No, look at the character design of Sailor Mars from the first teaser, she got a nose and she looks the best (in my opinion)
 
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No, look at the character design of Sailor Mars from the first teaser, she got a nose and she looks the best (in my opinion)
Actually she and Ami look worst in the chara design art by Tadano. Rei on it looks like a fanart of the 90s Rei and the nose is bad even on it . And if you look at the key visual and Usagi. it is clear she went with the no accent on the nose route.
 
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Actually she and Ami look worst in the chara design art by Tadano. Rei on it looks like a fanart of the 90s Rei and the nose is bad even on it . And if you look at the key visual and Usagi. it is clear she went with the no accent on the nose route.
I guess it's a matter of taste, I prefer Mars and Mercury over Jupiter and Venus. I do see there is something fanarty about Mars, especially on the bottom, but her face looks gorgeous. The character design we see in the leaked material is quite the opposite of what Naoko did in the manga. It's too round and lacks that edgy aspect. At least, the proportions are done right.
 

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I guess it's a matter of taste, I prefer Mars and Mercury over Jupiter and Venus. I do see there is something fanarty about Mars, especially on the bottom, but her face looks gorgeous. The character design we see in the leaked material is quite the opposite of what Naoko did in the manga. It's too round and lacks that edgy aspect. At least, the proportions are done right.
Sailor Moon is what it is because of the anime version of the 90s.
That's why they are copying everything from it. Anything other than that will fail miserably. We've seen it in seasons 1,2 and 3.
It is not that difficult to understand.
 
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I guess it's a matter of taste, I prefer Mars and Mercury over Jupiter and Venus. I do see there is something fanarty about Mars, especially on the bottom, but her face looks gorgeous. The character design we see in the leaked material is quite the opposite of what Naoko did in the manga. It's too round and lacks that edgy aspect. At least, the proportions are done right.
They stopped trying to adapt the manga style a long time ago. It is really a matter of taste. I personally was horrified by the Mercury on the character design. The face looks so derpy and the pose was so fan arty. But then I saw the character design of Mercury by Akira and it was way worse. I think the footage that leaked look overall a lot better compared to the chara design