SuperS/Nehelenia arc alternative cut

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I think SuperS was an attempt to turn the series into what a lot of other long running anime (for example, Pokémon ) eventually become. The characters essentially never age and are stuck in an infinite stasis. That's why so many of the episodes are Sailor Moon at its most formulaic, episodic and kid friendly to the max (since those tend to be what long running shows are).

Of course, either the approach didn't work or Naoko was not on board for thousands of episodes continuing to this day,
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they wanted to establish a pattern to keep the show running forever. Kind of switching the protagonist to a younger one, dumbing down everything. We could already see signs of that in S. Chibiusa came back in the middle of the season, and then started to being always depicted at Usagi's side in openings and promotional material.
The ratings nosedive (a trend that Stars couldn't stop, by the way) says it wasn't Naoko the one who blocked the show from going on. I've heard there was also a crisis in Bandai and even Dragon Ball (who was also curiously trying to appeal to younger kids) got cancelled around the same time as SM despite having higher ratings, but I can't confirm that now.
Anyway, we're about to find about that. Tuxedo Unmasked found two 1995 interviews about why SuperS was going in a different direction from Dream and a post about it is in the makings.
 
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She’s honestly so bland and forgettable in the anime for the longest time I couldn’t be bothered to remember her name and just referred to her as The Dream Queen

We from a mad scientist being all goofy and extra to a Lady in a fancy dress who just stands there
Ok you did not watch the last few episode of SuperS or the first 6 episodes of Stars as she does more than just stand there, Queen Nehellenia is many things bland and forgettable isn't one of them.
 
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Anime!Nehelenia really feels like a prototype of your typical Ikuhara villain, which is to say that she, much like Akio from Utena or Sanetoshi from Penguindrum, is as evil as she is pathetic. She's got the Amazon Quartet's Peter Pan Syndrome on steroids.

Her dream of everlasting beauty and youth drove her to willingly go back inside the mirror and spend all of eternity alone. Stars ends up making her a bit more sympathetic (and SuperS did kind of imply her mirror had something to do with her descent in villainy before the latter season confirmed it), but she's still interesting before all that because of how she destroyed her own kingdom, stole the golden crystal, abandoned her attempts of world domination, and let herself be imprisoned again in isolation forever just so she wouldn't have to grow up. That's not something a Sailor Moon villain ever really did before.

The loose fairy tale motifs in her character throughout the adaptations are cool, too. In the manga, she's Malifecent from Sleeping Beauty, in SuperS, she's the Evil Queen from Snow White, and in Stars, she's the Snow Queen.
 

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Anime!Nehelenia really feels like a prototype of your typical Ikuhara villain, which is to say that she, much like Akio from Utena or Sanetoshi from Penguindrum, is as evil as she is pathetic. She's got the Amazon Quartet's Peter Pan Syndrome on steroids.

Her dream of everlasting beauty and youth drove her to willingly go back inside the mirror and spend all of eternity alone. Stars ends up making her a bit more sympathetic (and SuperS did kind of imply her mirror had something to do with her descent in villainy before the latter season confirmed it), but she's still interesting before all that because of how she destroyed her own kingdom, stole the golden crystal, abandoned her attempts of world domination, and let herself be imprisoned again in isolation forever just so she wouldn't have to grow up. That's not something a Sailor Moon villain ever really did before.

The loose fairy tale motifs in her character throughout the adaptations are cool, too. In the manga, she's Malifecent from Sleeping Beauty, in SuperS, she's the Evil Queen from Snow White, and in Stars, she's the Snow Queen.
She was afraid to lose all the spotlight when she gets old, so she rather to stay alone. That was indeed pathetic and sick. But also makes her a very interesting villain.
 

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In the manga maybe (she's very underwhelming there) in the anime HELL NO! She is one of the best villains in Sailor Moon.
She's trash in both. I mean, she's the equivalent of a whiny baby, even worse that the anime tried to giver her a short round 2, only to further cement her into a trash can.
 
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She's trash in both. I mean, she's the equivalent of a whiny baby, even worse that the anime tried to giver her a short round 2, only to further cement her into a trash can.
Queen Nehellenia is the best developed villain of the 90's anime, round 2 was her best showing ,she is NOT trash.
 
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Galaxia wasn't really redeemed though, since she wasn't evil to begin with. The anime had her seperate herself from her body, knowing Chaos was going to take control. The manga had her fight Chaos, get beat, and then mentally beaten into submission, and killed by Chaos when Sailor Moon started to break through to her.
Not the same as Nehelania. Kinda feel like the cheap "redemption" on Nehelania was some weird attempt to make up for the SNES RPG tried and failed to make Beryl not seem too bad...which kinda went to [BLEEP]
 
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The manga had her fight Chaos, get beat, and then mentally beaten into submission, and killed by Chaos when Sailor Moon started to break through to her.
In the manga Galaxia knowing full well she couldn't kill Chaos herself was planning on having Sailor Moon and Chaos fight one another and hope they would they kill each other that way she could take over the galaxy without anyone standing in her way however Chaos saw this coming a mile away and immediately attacks her once it's free being only saved by Sailor Moon and after Sailor Moon gives Galaxia a speech about hope Galaxia... commits Suicide.
 
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