The Early Days of Sailor Moon

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MementoNepenthe

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Throughout the run of the first four arcs in Nakayoshi, Sailor Moon was always billed as "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon" and was followed by a news page called the "Sailor Moon Information Bureau."

When the Dream arc ended, the final page had the usual "To be continued" message at the bottom, but there was another message along the side of the page:

ご愛読ありがとう!!​
第四部, ついに完結。​
来月号からはじまる,新シリーズをおたのしみに!​
Thank you for reading!​
Part 4, finally completed.​
Starting with next month's issue, please enjoy the new series!​

Rather than a new "arc," Stars is referred to as a new "series."



It's hard to make out, but the announcement in that issue's Information Bureau seems to say Sailor Moon is being "born anew" as "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Sailor Stars," though the word "arc" ("hen") is used.

Thereafter, Sailor Moon is billed as "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Sailor Stars" and even the "Sailor Moon Information Bureau" became the "Eternal Sailor Moon Information Bureau."

Given this, I wonder whether "Sailor Stars" was really envisioned as a fifth arc or as a spin-off. Certainly given the way the "Sailor Stars" 'subtitle' overshadowed the "Sailor Moon" part of the name, and how the anime used a different theme song and slightly different art style, it feels like the latter would be the case, as has often been rumored.
 

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#83
^ My speculation is that manga/anime Stars wasn't meant to be just a spin-off, but also a separate whole new series of the equal status & a similar length as the original series. But as it turned out, it got cut short for some reasons (unsatisfactory ratings? Takeuchi being unable to continue working on it due to stress or w/e causes?).

Just my speculation, tho.
 

MementoNepenthe

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#84
I can see that. It would explain why so many new Sailors and planets were mentioned without being introduced "in person," as if setting up the next arc where we'd get to meet them. But probably Naoko was just ready to move on, and the anime probably didn't live up to Toei's expectations (thus why there was no season six).
 
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#85
There was a huge rating declined in Sailor Stars (according to Hitoshi Doi the show went from averaging about 11 percent in the ratings to 5 percent in Sailor Stars) so doesn’t surprise me Toei decided to end it there.
 

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There was a huge rating declined in Sailor Stars (according to Hitoshi Doi the show went from averaging about 11 percent in the ratings to 5 percent in Sailor Stars) so doesn’t surprise me Toei decided to end it there.
And Takeuchi thanked them for that, as she'd looong wanna quit if not for the anime. XD

Again, that's also just my speculation.
 
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Certainly given the way the "Sailor Stars" 'subtitle' overshadowed the "Sailor Moon" part of the name, and how the anime used a different theme song and slightly different art style, it feels like the latter would be the case, as has often been rumored.
And the fact Toei licenses Sailor Stars separately from seasons 1-4.
 
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It reminds me of a very rare condition that the patient never enters into puberty, w/ the accompanying serious, lifelong psychological consequences.
I entered puberty...but I had such a baby face that I was mistaken for 15 for the past 13 years. I don't think I could endure centuries looking like I belong in freshman year of high school.

It's bad enough people suffer worse conditions like the above mentioned with psychological issues. I have my own psych issues from more than just the consequences of being physically stunted.

The only reassuring thing I was told by a doctor is I may live to 150 (I'm in my early 30s), but I want to meet an astromer and he's in his 60s and I want to discuss possible names for the Trappist-1 planets. One set of possible names would be the 7 Lucky Gods of Japan.

Still, to spend the 9/10ths of your life trapped in a child's body? I wouldn't stand for it.
 

MementoNepenthe

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Take this with a grain of salt, but the Japanese Wikipedia page for Sailor V states that the OVA was planned as a four-part release. No source is given, so of course it could just be someone making stuff up, but maybe that was one of the details given in the September 95 issue of RunRun? I really hope a copy surfaces soon so we can know the truth!
 

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Has anyone got a copy or scans of the Japanese edition of the fourth volume of the shinsoban? I'm curious about this comic:


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Specifically, I want to know if Naoko actually said "lesbians." MissDream is known to take...liberties with their translations, so I'm curious as to whether or not Naoko actually described them as such. Thanks in advance!
here :)
 

MementoNepenthe

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Osabu sat down for an interview with Natalie.mu yesterday to discuss the history of Sailor Moon. Tuxedo Unmasked has translated the first part of it and will be translating the rest shortly.

  • Apparently Osabu pled with Toei to not let the anime get ahead of the manga, to which they obviously agreed
  • Originally the anime was going to do 20 episodes of Usagi on her own before introducing Ami, etc, but because they wanted to include Ami and Rei in the opening and there was such an immediate interest in who those characters were, they ended up rushing ahead to introduce Ami in episode 8 and Rei in episode 10.
  • Naoko and Osabu mapped out the first story arc before starting, and the first episode of the anime was based off of Naoko's sketches for the first chapter
  • Since Naoko originally only planned for the manga to run for a year, when the series was renewed, she was at a bit of a loss as to what to do with Usagi and Mamoru. (It was unusual for manga in Nakayoshi to feature established relationships; the implication here is that had Naoko planned to do multiple story arcs, Usagi and Mamoru probably wouldn't have gotten together as soon as they did.)
  • "There were times where, after taking a look at the [thumbnails], I would ask her to redo the structure of the story even in spite of how little time we had. Ms. Takeuchi got pretty peeved at having her [ideas] shot down." (I would love to see all of Naoko's original story drafts to see how much got changed due to Osabu's input.)

Hearing that the original plan was to get 20 episodes of solo Usagi adventures is the most fascinating new tidbit to me. I feel like that would have dragged A LOT, so I'm glad they introduced Ami and Rei when they did.

ETA: Looking at the rest of the interview...

  • As we all know, Chibiusa was a very popular character back in the day (probably because she was the same age as most of the viewers/readers). Apparently when they did a character popularity poll for the 20th anniversary, Usagi was voted most popular, Queen Serenity the second, and Black Lady was number three! :lol: Evidently, many of the adult fans said they could relate more to the villains in the story, like Black Lady and Queen Beryl.
  • Osabu says that plans to introduce the Outers were in place at the end of the first arc. It was Naoko's idea to introduce Pluto first because Pluto was the outermost planet at the time.
 
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^ I'd also like Takeuchi herself to be in such longer interviews these days, so as to get a more complete picture of what happened back then, but I guess that's unlikely. *sigh*
 

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I can't quite make out what Osabu is saying here:

3部くらいで先生も描き尽くした感があるとおっしゃっていて、ちびうさの人気もすごくあったので、もしかしたらそのあと、うさぎちゃんは引退気味になってちびうさに世代交代して話が続いていく可能性もあったのかもしれない。でもたぶん最後にうさぎと衛の結婚式で終わるというゴールは最初から先生の中にあったんだと思うんです。そこに連なる、5部のクライマックス的な話はやったほうがいいんじゃないかと僕は思っていて。4部ではまずちびうさメインの話をやって、5部で結婚式をゴールに描くことになった。終盤のコルドロンの話のコンセプトとかは、このシリーズの最初の頃に先生とよく話し合った記憶がありますね。……いや、忘れてて、今思い出しました​

It sounds like after the third arc Naoko was already starting to feel exhausted and they talked about having Usagi retire and continuing the series with Chibiusa as the lead, and maybe other generations of Sailor Moons? Possibly that's why the fourth arc focused so much on Chibiusa? But in the end they decided to end the series with five arcs, and wrote the fifth arc towards the goal of Usagi and Mamoru's wedding, which Osabu believes is how Naoko always wanted to end the series anyway.

ETA: My rough attempt at translating Osabu's first remark:

"Naoko said she was feeling exhausted from writing/drawing the gloomy third arc. Because of Chibiusa's extreme popularity, perhaps thereafter Usagi could retire, and perhaps there was the possibility that subsequent stories could shift towards or take turns with Chibiusa's generation."​

So yeah, seems like they seriously considered having Chibiusa and her generation take over as the leads, or possibly alternating between an Usagi-led story arc and a Chibiusa-led story arc.
 
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^ Maybe Usagi should've "graduated" & passed the baton to Chibiusa, & the franchise would've evolved very differently. :D