The New Dub of The Movies

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In the movie, Usagi and Mamoru are hot-hot lovers, Chibiusa is friends with Rei and the girls, and she isn't Black Lady. The time that satisfies these conditions is around episodes 78-81 of "Sailor Moon R." However, around episode 80, the girls are shown wearing winter clothes, whereas they're
wearing spring clothes in the movies... In the last episode of "Sailor Moon R," during the period between defeating the Black Moon and Chibiusa's return to the future, there should be no contradiction, but what do you think?

So basically... If you wanted to watch everything in its in-universe chronological order, you'd have to stop Final Battle after Wiseman is defeated, then go watch the R movie, then watch the last minute or so of Final Battle where Rini goes back to the future. :lol:
I like the idea between 78-81, it was just a warm day haha
 

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I personally choose watch the R movie between Episodes 79 and 80. It must come before 81 since the decision for Chibiusa to take everyone to the future is made by that episode's end. Meanwhile, despite Episode 78 taking place during Winter around Christmastime, Episode 79 features a TON of lush green fauna, indicating that the weather could get warm enough for all of that plant life to be as green and healthy as it was in that episode. Likewise, the R movie features a lot of green plant life too, at the botanical garden that the girls visit in that movie.

Plus, Episode 79 is the last episode of two in R (the other being 78 ) that takes place during the Winter Break from school, with the girls already back in school by Episode 80. And in the R movie, the girls are seen walking to school in the morning after their having spent the night over at Rei's. While this could have just been a Monday for them, explaining their having not been in school the previous day to be because it was probably a Sunday, it's equally possible that the day before was the final day of their Winter Break, and that the morning scene of them walking to school together could have been their first day back after the break.
 
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I was just thinking: if DiC ever licensed these three movies, and the show was a big hit, they could've tried to combine them in some way to make a mainstream theatrical film like Saban and Digimon: The Movie (or Harmony Gold and their Dragon Ball feature). I'm trying to figure out the best way they could've done it. S and SuperS could maybe work as one film, with SuperS footage maybe used in the middle with Queen Badiyanu as Snow Kaguya's partner, sister, or something. It would be stupid as hell, but it's fun to think about. They could've also combined R with Ami's First Love as a subplot.
 

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Should've been "Sailor Soldiers", darn it! It's even sung as such in the show itself. :wink:
 

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I was just thinking: if DiC ever licensed these three movies, and the show was a big hit, they could've tried to combine them in some way to make a mainstream theatrical film like Saban and Digimon: The Movie (or Harmony Gold and their Dragon B.
Why would they need to combine them?

The R movie is 60 minutes. The short is 15 minutes. Together that’s 75 minutes which is fairly acceptable runtime for an animated feature length movie
 
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Why would they need to combine them?

The R movie is 60 minutes. The short is 15 minutes. Together that’s 75 minutes which is fairly acceptable runtime for an animated feature length movie
One of the films cut/paste into Digimon: The Movie was 60 minutes (Digimon: The Movie was 88 mins). I'm sure anyone distributing Sailor Moon theatrically in the 90s would want something longer than 75 minutes (Pokemon: The First Movie was 75 minutes NOT counting the Pikachu short), but I guess just presenting R with its original short would be the most ideal way to do it.
 

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One of the films cut/paste into Digimon: The Movie was 60 minutes (Digimon: The Movie was 88 mins). I'm sure anyone distributing Sailor Moon theatrically in the 90s would want something longer than 75 minutes (Pokemon: The First Movie was 75 minutes NOT counting the Pikachu short), but I guess just presenting R with its original short would be the most ideal way to do it.
The Digimon movie was originally only suppose to be just the first two movies combined. Neither of which on their own is really feature length (20 minutes and 40 minutes) with the show runners wanting to leave the third, longer movie for a later tv special or direct to video feature. But higher ups demanded the third movie be in there too, presumably because by the time the movie hit theatres the second season’s cast would be on tv and they wanted the movie to feature the current toys. So the third movie was sliced in life and some cuts were made to the first two movies to get 90 minutes. (Because 2 hours would be too long I guess)

75 minutes while kind of short even for a kids theatrical movie isnt unheard of.

That was the length of Batman:Mask of the Phantasm. Nightmare Before Christmas was 76 minutes. Just for two examples.
 

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The Digimon movie was originally only suppose to be just the first two movies combined. Neither of which on their own is really feature length (20 minutes and 40 minutes) with the show runners wanting to leave the third, longer movie for a later tv special or direct to video feature. But higher ups demanded the third movie be in there too, presumably because by the time the movie hit theatres the second season’s cast would be on tv and they wanted the movie to feature the current toys. So the third movie was sliced in life and some cuts were made to the first two movies to get 90 minutes. (Because 2 hours would be too long I guess)

75 minutes while kind of short even for a kids theatrical movie isnt unheard of.

That was the length of Batman:Mask of the Phantasm. Nightmare Before Christmas was 76 minutes. Just for two examples.
Rewatching the original Digimon movies in Japanese, I seem to have noticed one thing that the dub cut out: The whole "the older Digidestined got taken bit and their fates of being rescued were never seen". It seemed like certain plot holes were left in those and the dub wanted to omit this mostly because none of the older kids were saved at all in the actual movie (and probably due to time constraints). But still, stuff like that is still questionable at best.
 

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Rewatching the original Digimon movies in Japanese, I seem to have noticed one thing that the dub cut out: The whole "the older Digidestined got taken bit and their fates of being rescued were never seen". It seemed like certain plot holes were left in those and the dub wanted to omit this mostly because none of the older kids were saved at all in the actual movie (and probably due to time constraints). But still, stuff like that is still questionable at best.
They had Davis mention off hand Tai and the others had returned safely. A lame wrap up to that subplot but not a plot hole.

Pretty sure the “older kids were kidnapped” subplot only existed as an in-universe reason to keep the older kids out of the action since the whole “we can’t digivolve because of the control spires” is null when the action is going outside the digital world.

The American chimera dub probably cut it out for time since it would have put the movie at the 2 hr runtime which is probably considered too long for Fox Kids target audience
 

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And yet, despite that subplot being cut, the dub movie's VHS/DVD back cover made explicit mention of it as though it were one of the dub movie's main plot threads. Whoops. ^_^'
 
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I was just thinking: if DiC ever licensed these three movies, and the show was a big hit, they could've tried to combine them in some way to make a mainstream theatrical film like Saban and Digimon: The Movie (or Harmony Gold and their Dragon Ball feature). I'm trying to figure out the best way they could've done it. S and SuperS could maybe work as one film, with SuperS footage maybe used in the middle with Queen Badiyanu as Snow Kaguya's partner, sister, or something. It would be stupid as hell, but it's fun to think about. They could've also combined R with Ami's First Love as a subplot.
I was actually thinking that DiC would have done the reverse, and cut up the movies to make actual "episodes" out of them. After all, if they would need 65 more episodes and at the time of the decision, there would hardly be 65 more, and some would likely be cut out (like 89).

Of course, this would put them in a bind once the show ended at episode 200.
 

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And yet, despite that subplot being cut, the dub movie's VHS/DVD back cover made explicit mention of it as though it were one of the dub movie's main plot threads. Whoops. ^_^'
Either someone got the wrong movie synopsis or the subplot was cut fairly late in the game
 
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I was actually thinking that DiC would have done the reverse, and cut up the movies to make actual "episodes" out of them. After all, if they would need 65 more episodes and at the time of the decision, there would hardly be 65 more, and some would likely be cut out (like 89).

Of course, this would put them in a bind once the show ended at episode 200.
Yeah, that's exactly what FUNi and Saban originally did with DBZ: Tree of Might. They cut it up into three episodes, and had to recycle clips from the TV show to fill out time. Pioneer even got Ocean to redub the film from scratch with mostly the same cast, but completely different script for their uncut VHS and DVD release. FUNi basically used the original dub's script for their 2005 in-house dub.

Also, DiC wouldn't need 65 additional episodes. 65 is just the MINIMUM amount of episodes required for daily syndication for children's programming (notably, DBZ was in weekly syndication for 56 episodes, meaning ToM was used for shits and giggles). DiC could've added however many episodes they wanted. Notably, DiC was one of the few companies around the world that DID dub episode 89, and very few other languages bothered with it. Apparently some fans in the day even thought DiC might've created it themselves.

Does anyone know if the Lost Episodes eventually aired in US syndication, or did they always remain exclusive to Cartoon Network? I know they at least premiered there over here.
 
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Does anyone know if the Lost Episodes eventually aired in US syndication, or did they always remain exclusive to Cartoon Network? I know they at least premiered there over here.
As far as I know, it didn't air in US syndication because after the initial syndication re-run schedule for the 1995-1996 season...Sailor Moon went off the air.

After going off the air in the US, it didn't return to the US until Sailor Moon was on the USA Network, where the already cut episodes were cut even more to add more commercial time. And USA definitely did not air any extra episodes. It's funny because USA did air the "lost" episodes...of 87 Turtles in Europe episodes which didn't originally air in the US. From there it went to Cartoon Network, and even then the Lost episodes didn't air until at least one run, I think, and that's where it aired for the rest of its days Sailor Moon never went back to syndication after that.

Again, this is as far as I know.
 
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Does anyone know if the Lost Episodes eventually aired in US syndication, or did they always remain exclusive to Cartoon Network? I know they at least premiered there over here.
I can confirm that I remember once catching the DiC dub of the episode where Wiseman kills Prince Diamond on UPN one weekday morning in the early 2000s, as that was at a point when I did not have cable TV yet (we'd get it shortly after that point, though ), so I never ever got to watch Sailor Moon back when it was airing on Toonami. Only on UPN during its continued syndicated run of back-to-back episodes of Garfield & Friends (at 7:00am) and Sailor Moon (at 7:30am) on weekday mornings.