[US] Sailor Moon SuperS Viz Blu-ray/DVD sets

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I'm pretty sure someone here posted about it, saying Robbie Daymond mentioned it at a con, but I don't feel like digging for it.

No, they can't possibly be. When a dubbing studio is hired, they are supposed to meet deadlines. If they told Viz "oh, we're too busy and so we decided to delay Sailor Moon" Viz would just get annoyed at their lack of professionalism and move their productions to another studio.
Eh, if the show was airing on TV and had specific deadlines, I could see that happening. But for a purely streaming/home video release, they can pretty much take as long as they need, so there's more time to iron out things like that. One of the big reasons they're redubbing this at all was to give it a consistent cast, in response to the original dub having a very inconsistent cast (to put it mildly). The original dub was under heavy time constraints to make broadcast deadlines, and had no choice but to recast if an actor had schedule or salary issues.
 

Tuxedo Kevin

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I'm pretty sure someone here posted about it, saying Robbie Daymond mentioned it at a con, but I don't feel like digging for it.



Eh, if the show was airing on TV and had specific deadlines, I could see that happening. But for a purely streaming/home video release, they can pretty much take as long as they need, so there's more time to iron out things like that. One of the big reasons they're redubbing this at all was to give it a consistent cast, in response to the original dub having a very inconsistent cast (to put it mildly). The original dub was under heavy time constraints to make broadcast deadlines, and had no choice but to recast if an actor had schedule or salary issues.
Every dub has deadlines. It doesn't matter whether it's for TV, streaming or home media. Some projects in fact have stricter deadlines as you mentioned, but "take as long as they need" is impossible. Their dub is a professional job, not a fandub.
 
I think the delays are more with Viz than the dubbing studio. It's a different series, but Viz's Naruto Shippuden dub finished recording in February 2018 based on a Tweet by Naruto's dub VA. But the last Shippuden DVD release won't be out until early 2019.

Supposedly Michelle Ruff also almost quit the show, but I think they decided to increase her salary since she was a main character. I haven't heard that from a definitive source though.
That would surprise me if true. She always says it's the favorite character she's played, and tends to talk about her and Bleach fondly.
 
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That would surprise me if true. She always says it's the favorite character she's played, and tends to talk about her and Bleach fondly.
Plus she didn't take getting replaced for the live-action movie dub very well.




The movie was dubbed at Studiopolis for Netflix (same studio where the anime was dubbed for Viz) and judging by not only Michelle but Patrick Seitz & Wally Wingert's responses, half of that cast weren't contacted to return but she took it the worst, which made sense considering she was Rukia since day 1.

Expecting the same thing to happen for Evangelion's redub.



Thankfully she showed support for Cassandra Lee Morris because in the end the recasting wasn't her fault...plus fans are crazy and will attack anyone, even those not responsible for stuff like this.
 
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I wonder if they just didn't think her voice would be a good fit for the live action actress playing Rukia, but that's just me. She looks a bit younger than the Rukia of the anime, and Cassandra's vocal age range seems to fit her more.

Every dub has deadlines. It doesn't matter whether it's for TV, streaming or home media. Some projects in fact have stricter deadlines as you mentioned, but "take as long as they need" is impossible. Their dub is a professional job, not a fandub.
Oh yeah, there's definitely deadlines. This one just isn't under the urgent and pressing ones of the original dub. Obviously it can't take 10 years for the show to be dubbed (though Viz almost did that before with Ranma 1/2's dub being in production from 1993-2001 for 160 episodes, 3 movies, and 12 OVAs, with several recasts), but it can take a delay for a few months. For the original dub, if someone couldn't return right away, they were replaced. Terri Hawkes could've returned to voice Serena/Sailor Moon for the S/SuperS seasons after her pregnancy, but Cloverway, YTV, and Cartoon Network were not going to wait, because they had broadcast dates set. Viz would probably put the dub on a short hiatus if Stephanie Sheh ran into a similar situation. The worst consequence would be the DVD/Blu-ray sets delayed a bit longer.
 
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It just them making more "self-aware" jokes to the footage while CWi actually followed the JPN script on certain episodes...its so weird... and then minor things like for example Palla Palla saying "1,2,3,4," before pulling on the doll guardians arms but in the Viz dub she saying some kind of sentence. There's numerous instances like this... These little things just add up... But yes, the Viz dub is still more accurately consistently and the lemures dub voices... actually sounding like effort was put into them unlike the CWi voices which was almost the complete opposite.
 
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There were some episodes of the Cloverway dub that had VERY faithful scripts, and others (usually ones written by Lisa Lumby-Richards, sister of Dr. Tomoe's voice actor Jeff Lumby, and writer on most DiC episodes) that very much did not, and had terrible dialogue on top of that. The difference was pretty striking. Apparently, Optimum gave batches of episodes to different writers, each with their own style.

I don't mind Viz's light self-aware script adaptation, even if it takes you out of the story a bit.
 

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Can y'all give some examples of this self-awareness in the Viz dub? I haven't gotten a copy of the SuperS DVDs/BDs yet.
 

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Episode 161 they changed Usagi's stipulation for Chibiusa's reward. In the new dub, she just has to finish the race, in the original she had to win for Usagi to treat her to something. I guess this makes Usagi look more like a reasonable parent.
 

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Really? I would say CWi did alright in the S season for the MOTD but SUPERS... yikes I have no idea what happened there IMO. They mostly sounded squeaky for no reason.
The early Remless voices were pretty awful, but the end of the Amazon Trio's arc they got a bit better.
 

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Episode 161 they changed Usagi's stipulation for Chibiusa's reward. In the new dub, she just has to finish the race, in the original she had to win for Usagi to treat her to something. I guess this makes Usagi look more like a reasonable parent.
This moralization from Viz is beyond stupid. I understand they trying to tone down serious things like homophobia and harassment, but... this? :wtf: