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Kerochan no Miko

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Since Crystal is an ongoing series, this subforum operates a little differently than the others - I figured it would be easier if I collected all the stuff that's been mentioned in various threads so it's all in one easily-referenced spot.

- This subforum is SPOILER TERRITORY. That means that any thread in here might very well contain plot/character details for any episode that has already aired, so if you're not caught up, read at your own risk. Spoiler tags are not necessary and will not be enforced in this subforum.

- To reduce clutter, each episode will have ONE official thread dedicated to discussing it. There will also be ONE thread dedicated to discussion of the next unaired episode.

- The official episode discussion threads will be posted by an admin (for consistency, and to prevent the possibility of multiple threads being created) who will sticky the current threads at the top of the forum. Since the episodes air while most of the admins are asleep, the threads may be created early, but please leave them empty until the episode actually airs.

- Remember that everyone has their own opinions of Crystal (and the original anime) and please stay respectful of that when discussing the series. You can discuss animation, plot, characterization, etc, all you'd like, but please do not start attacking other posters or their opinions.
 

Kerochan no Miko

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I'm bumping this to give more emphasis to that last point - the main purpose of this subforum is for people who like Sailor Moon Crystal. People who like it can certainly point out its shortcomings, and there is nothing inherently wrong with discussing animation issues, changes that affected the story, the release schedule, etc. But if that's all you want to do, I respectfully invite you to find another venue for it. This forum should be a safe place for people to talk about what they enjoy, and I've had several complaints recently that posters feel like they can't do so here without people bashing them for it.

So please, think before you post. You may think Crystal is the dumbest piece of dumb to ever dumb. If so, this may not be the right place for you to express those opinions unless you can also accept and encourage those who love it wholeheartedly. This should be a fan-positive environment, and I want to encourage that.
 
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As I still haven't watched the new season yet (too difficult to obtain here), please try to prevent spoiling any major plot points etc. for me.
 

Rika-Chicchi

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Onuzim Ima said:
As I still haven't watched the new season yet (too difficult to obtain here), please try to prevent spoiling any major plot points etc. for me.
The best way to avoid spoiling is to avoid visiting this subforum. :wink:
 
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I'd really like to see this subforum better moderated, especially with Crystal being in it's offseason with nothing new having been announced yet. The Crystal haters are running rampant and having a field trolling people and ruining the show for people who actually enjoy it.
 

Prince Rose

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Well from now on I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this subforum
It's ok to critique Crystal as well as all of sm, but there's no room for flat out spreading hatred just for the sake of hatred
 
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Prince Rose said:
Well from now on I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this subforum
It's ok to critique Crystal as well as all of sm, but there's no room for flat out spreading hatred just for the sake of hatred
Rose, thank you so much for moderating the Crystal subforum.
 

Prince Rose

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Usagi-Fifth-Doctor said:
Prince Rose said:
Well from now on I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this subforum
It's ok to critique Crystal as well as all of sm, but there's no room for flat out spreading hatred just for the sake of hatred
Rose, thank you so much for moderating the Crystal subforum.
Your welcome, I just want to do my best to make this place feel welcome to its members
Nobody should have to feel bad for liking one version over another
 

Kerochan no Miko

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Hey guys? The above still holds. If you're here to just say that Crystal sucks, please find another forum to post that in, because it's not okay here.
 
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Hey guys? The above still holds. If you're here to just say that Crystal sucks, please find another forum to post that in, because it's not okay here.
I find it preposterous that on a Sailor Moon forum you're not allowed to say anything negative about an adaptation of Sailor Moon. It's nonsensical and completely defeats the purpose of a discussion forum. Of course this "rule" that you unilaterally invented and imposed only applies to Crystal because you like it and are abusing your position as admin to silence people who want to criticize it.
 
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I find it preposterous that on a Sailor Moon forum you're not allowed to say anything negative about an adaptation of Sailor Moon. It's nonsensical and completely defeats the purpose of a discussion forum. Of course this "rule" that you unilaterally invented and imposed only applies to Crystal because you like it and are abusing your position as admin to silence people who want to criticize it.
And it's hypocritical/inconsistent given that people on here are allowed to negatively comment on the various dubs, the manga, the musicals, etc. It's one thing to have a rule about making sure people respect each others' opinions or to have a rule against spamming the forum with hate-threads made for the sake of annoying people and trying to start flame wars or whatever, but to just patently prohibit ANY negative commentary on Crystal? Not a good look. And maybe that's not your intention KnM. Maybe it is just the creation of threads made apropos of nothing simply to hate on Crystal and set off its fans that you're trying to curb, in which case cool, but maybe you could clarify that? And maybe we could just get a dedicated "Post Your Hate for Crystal Here" thread so that people who want to can just vent about how much they dislike the series out of the blue, and those who don't want to see such posts can simply avoid that thread.
 

John

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I'm coming out of my retirement thanks to all the changes that have taken place around here, and this is one of the first threads I've visited so far.

Guys, I think it's really obvious that Kero is talking about blatant, disrespectful hate as opposed to thoughtful criticism. She even said that "there is nothing inherently wrong with discussing animation issues, changes that affected the story, the release schedule, etc." and that she is only trying to curb flat-out bashing (and I'm pretty sure the same applies to other versions of Sailor Moon as well -- we can freely discuss the pros and cons of the 90s anime, but I'm pretty sure someone saying "the 90s anime is garbage" would be treated the same way, because this is a Sailor Moon forum).

I have been made more aware of Crystal's flaws as of late, but it's quite clear that Crystal, despite being given a healthy dose of criticism from the fans, is also the source of a lot of strife within the fandom even during the current hiatus/break/off-season/whatever you want to call it.

Putting things like "Crystal is the Donald Trump of anime" in a signature or saying something like that in a thread is NOT thoughtful criticism -- it's flat-out bashing and it's only being said to rile up Crystal fans or anyone who doesn't hate it as much as you do.

TLDR: Kero is obviously saying it's okay to criticize but not okay to flat-out bash Crystal, and since this is a general Sailor Moon forum, it's clear that this policy applies to all of Sailor Moon.
 

Dr. Xadium

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TBH I think people are deliberately construing her words in the worst light possible and it's silly. She's saying criticism is fine
but to just patently prohibit ANY negative commentary on Crystal? Not a good look.
I didn't see that declaration in her post. Y'all are reading this far too broadly. I take it as "Criticize constructively, don't flame or ceaselessly complain."
 

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ok if we're going to talk about Crystal then I shall start. You know I have to say I actually LIKED Season III compared to the other two. It feels alot more energetic, with the comedy and character expressions feeling more broad. If there was anything I had an issue with when it came to Seasons I and II, it felt like they leaned a bit too far towards realistic character expressions, which at least for me, made the humor not stand out as well and I love a good bit of Sailor Moon humor :) I hope they keep going in this direction.
 

Kerochan no Miko

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I didn't see that declaration in her post. Y'all are reading this far too broadly. I take it as "Criticize constructively, don't flame or ceaselessly complain."
Exactly. As it says in the very first post in this thread:

You can discuss animation, plot, characterization, etc, all you'd like, but please do not start attacking other posters or their opinions.
I certainly hope people are able to tell the difference between "I thought the animation style in season 3 was worse than the first two seasons" and "Crystal is an abomination and should never have aired." The former is fine because it's legitimate critique and can be discussed, whereas the second is just flat-out hate and that's just not okay.

And from the second post in this thread:

This should be a fan-positive environment, and I want to encourage that.
Just stay positive, y'all. Fellow fans are friends, not food.
 
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I didn't see that declaration in her post. I take it as "Criticize constructively, don't flame or ceaselessly complain."
@Dr. Xadium I didn't see it either. These are good words to live by.
 
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Could we please have a single thread where we can vent about Crystal? There are many topics for people to express what they like about it but not one for the opposite and that's not fair.
Well, good idea, Starlight.
 

Kerochan no Miko

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Could we please have a single thread where we can vent about Crystal? There are many topics for people to express what they like about it but not one for the opposite and that's not fair.
No.

There is a vast internet out there with a multitude of websites where you can vent about Crystal. This forum is not going to be one of those places.

EDIT: Also locking this thread because it's not for discussion, it's just setting out the expectations for posts in this subforum.
 
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