What are your guys thoughts on the two new Sailor Moon Crystal movies coming on 2019?

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What are your thoughts on the two Sailor Moon Crystal Movies?

  • I'm Excited To Watch

    Votes: 25 86.2%
  • Meh it could be better

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Not hyped for it at all

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Total voters
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kamil88

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Gegege No Kitaro is another manga series, that Toei adapts since late 60's, now airs 5th anime series, and while each one is completely different, it have recurring group of charactrs :) Since SM never had proper manga adaptation, Crystal happened, hopefully for another anime, it will go PGSM route :)

Spoilers for Seramyu

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I loved what musicals did with Beryl, she was more fleshed out and i truly felt sorry for her, she only teamed up with Galaxia only after she promised she will leave Earth and Endymion alone, that is something i would love to see in anime form :)


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SailorSpySedna

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And thats something i dont understand, while i can understand low budget for S1/S2 (Nothing new since PGSM/Seramyu was released, and PGSM sales were pretty meh, no Wonder Toei thought SM was dead) they made better product with S3, and few months after they announced Dream will beadapted as 2 movies, they announced director and chara design, but, its been few months and we didnt even got character designs, i dont want rushed product of course, but at least gave us something Toei, SM is very popular, dont treat it like 3rd wheel for DB/Precure....
To be honest, I think Toei needs to give the Precure franchise, I mean, cash cow, a rest, it's been in decline since Doki Doki...and series like Maho Girls and Kira Kira (which looked to me like poor man's versions of Ojamajo Doremi and Tokyo Mew Mew) was just showing their love for money over storytelling, a lot of fans say the latter was the worst season.
 
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Toei really took the SM Sentai trope and pushed it to another level. There are a few shows that I think need to rest but if they keep making money, Toei will not stop making them. I don't know where they are at Pretty Cure wise but they will make a Pretty Cure ever thing. I'm surprised they haven't made a Pretty Cure mecha anime. PC has turned into a monster now. It's been making seasons for what, 14 years now? Haha.

I think folks just didn't like the cheese of PGSM but after careful analysis, it is easily one of the best written versions of the franchise. If PGSM was an anime, that would be interesting. Just tweak the Venus death bit..lol
 
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With each passing onth without news I am gettig more and more worried about these movies. If they are goingbto release them back to back it makes sense to take this much time, but then they don't reveal anything. With the whole ''script problem" back in April and the reveal of the designer without showing the designs, I start thinkig they still haven't started animating it and it has been like 2 years since they announced it? I hope they won't cancel it, but then again 3 years i developent for an adaptation of a 20 year-old source material is ridiculous. Still cannot get their decision to try the movie route after 3 seasons of tv series. And I have a feeling they trapped themselves with this decision...
 
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Well, some of the board members had some great ideas in one of the movie threads on how to adapt the manga in two movies. Although, our board members have better ideas than Toei in most cases. I think the movies will be split for international distribution just like the Digimon Tri movies were. But after all this waiting i have to say i'm no logner actively hyped. I will wait for something concrete to be revealed before getting hyped.
After this, all I can say about the Marvel fandom waiting for the Avengers 4 title/trailer is: AMATEURS!!
 

SailorSpySedna

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With each passing onth without news I am gettig more and more worried about these movies. If they are goingbto release them back to back it makes sense to take this much time, but then they don't reveal anything. With the whole ''script problem" back in April and the reveal of the designer without showing the designs, I start thinkig they still haven't started animating it and it has been like 2 years since they announced it? I hope they won't cancel it, but then again 3 years i developent for an adaptation of a 20 year-old source material is ridiculous. Still cannot get their decision to try the movie route after 3 seasons of tv series. And I have a feeling they trapped themselves with this decision...
I hope it doesn't end up how with the first two seasons, part of the reason I heard it was delayed was Toei wanted to make a Precure (OF COURSE) version of Sailor Moon and Naoko didn't want that, where it was delayed and then when it came out it ended up looking horrible...

I'm guessing the TV version of Season 3 must not have been well received or something, even then and there when you look at most modern Sailor Moon merchandise, they still use the Classic style, so I wonder if Crystal still has been a failure of a reboot overall...

They should have just done a sequel to the classic anime/manga or whatever.
 
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I hope it doesn't end up how with the first two seasons, part of the reason I heard it was delayed was Toei wanted to make a Precure (OF COURSE) version of Sailor Moon and Naoko didn't want that, where it was delayed and then when it came out it ended up looking horrible...

I'm guessing the TV version of Season 3 must not have been well received or something, even then and there when you look at most modern Sailor Moon merchandise, they still use the Classic style, so I wonder if Crystal still has been a failure of a reboot overall...

They should have just done a sequel to the classic anime/manga or whatever.
It is all speculation. They cannot make a continuation if Naoko doesn't want to write it. Plus with so many PreCure using the 90s Sailor Moon formula... would be dull. Season 3 supposedly had good ratings, but poor sells compared to s1 and 2 - it had far less extra and stuff. So now with these movies they hope for both - nice box office and movies tends to sell a lot better on home cinema, Let's hope for a reveal of key visual soon.With each season having a different artstyle it s both exciting and nerve-wracking.
 
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It is all speculation. They cannot make a continuation if Naoko doesn't want to write it. Plus with so many PreCure using the 90s Sailor Moon formula... would be dull. Season 3 supposedly had good ratings, but poor sells compared to s1 and 2 - it had far less extra and stuff. So now with these movies they hope for both - nice box office and movies tends to sell a lot better on home cinema, Let's hope for a reveal of key visual soon.With each season having a different artstyle it s both exciting and nerve-wracking.
Not a fan of the inconsistencies with the artwork tho. It's terrible. I didn't like the designs for S1 or S2 though at all! Glad they changed it for S3.
 

SailorSpySedna

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It is all speculation. They cannot make a continuation if Naoko doesn't want to write it. Plus with so many PreCure using the 90s Sailor Moon formula... would be dull. Season 3 supposedly had good ratings, but poor sells compared to s1 and 2 - it had far less extra and stuff. So now with these movies they hope for both - nice box office and movies tends to sell a lot better on home cinema, Let's hope for a reveal of key visual soon.With each season having a different artstyle it s both exciting and nerve-wracking.
I don't know how seasons 1-2 managed to sell...oh wait, blind fans who would eat anything they were handed as long as it had "Sailor Moon" in its title, and those fans are especially annoying if they harass/attack you and treat you like scum for watching/liking/preferring the original anime, all whilst stupidly putting it down to try to pathetically make Crystal look better in comparison.
 
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A Sailor Moon like Pretty Cure wouldn't be THAT bad...:mameshiba: (Did I fall off a cliff..)

The story of Sailor Moon mixed with the action of Pretty Cure is basically the live action Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon animated to be honest (but with stronger action). I wouldn't be upset if all the Senshi started with their original black hair and changed like they did in the live action as well as fight like them too..(minus some of the cheesier moves.) Some purist might not put up with it though..lol

If the speculation is true, I can see why Toei said that. Pretty Cure is hot stuff right now (well was more so..) so it would make sense from a business standpoint to adopt a profitable formula. Honestly, I don't think Naoko cares about it being more a moneyhouse. She's got all the funds she needs and doesnt need to write anymore.
 
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A Sailor Moon like Pretty Cure wouldn't be THAT bad...:mameshiba: (Did I fall off a cliff..)

The story of Sailor Moon mixed with the action of Pretty Cure is basically the live action Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon animated to be honest (but with stronger action). I wouldn't be upset if all the Senshi started with their original black hair and changed like they did in the live action as well as fight like them too..(minus some of the cheesier moves.) Some purist might not put up with it though..lol

If the speculation is true, I can see why Toei said that. Pretty Cure is hot stuff right now (well was more so..) so it would make sense from a business standpoint to adopt a profitable formula. Honestly, I don't think Naoko cares about it being more a moneyhouse. She's got all the funds she needs and doesnt need to write anymore.
I really don't believe these rumors, why would Toei create a rival series of Pretty Cure, using a show they don't own in the same way and cannot make as much simply because they have to share. If they decided to make aSailor Moon Pretty Cure season, it would have been a Pretty Cure season in the end - and it would be a bit unfair,I really think s1 and 2 were victims of bad planning and horrible schedule, but you can see how some of the initial stuff like designs, art direction, music were done well and with something sophisticated in mind. It just got delayed an they had to rush it. Plus I remember from very early they said it is going to be a jousei, which means for older females who grew up with the franchise, so this speculations, even though there was a time i believed it doesn't hold well.
 
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I don't think it would be a "rival series." Toei probably would get the same amount of share they always would have because 90s Sailor Moon anime is something they technically created in the first place. Business wise, they only care about a return profit. If Pretty Cure is already a magical cash cow and the formula is working and selling like hotcats, why not being in a former magical girl and double the profit? I'm sure somewhere in that contract they still get some share of the profit.

I remember when they said it was supposed to be for older women, and then it later changed into older and attracting new generation and now it's everyone.

It might have been a tricky wager for them since magical girls today are nothing like they used to be and due to alarming popularity of Pretty Cure, I can see why they would want to "beef it up" to today's standards. After all, Sailor Moon was the original Sentai team and we have established seasons

But even watching what we got, you can see Pretty Cure still up in it, especially in Season III. Thinking back on Venus Wink Chain Sword...and Chibi-Usa's smile for cute cheek transformation. Sailor Moon transformations and attacks are supposed to be elegant, not bubbly and random like Pretty Cure...so I can see a backlash about not wanting it to be like Pretty Cure that way

I don't really believe the rumors either. The 90s anime is Toei's property to begin with, the characters and manga are Naoko's. I'm sure that contract is still in effect and some things may cause a bit of problem between two parties if they don't see eye to eye. At least that's how I think it works.
 
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I mean they might! At the last event that had nothing to do with Crystal they mentioned something about the movies. Everyone said they wouldn’t but they did. So it may happen again
 
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I mean they might! At the last event that had nothing to do with Crystal they mentioned something about the movies. Everyone said they wouldn’t but they did. So it may happen again
It was Usagi's birthday last time they did. It is the most important day for the franchise. This will just be a small scale version of the Classic concert. But hey Christmas bring miracles.
 

Clow

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It is all speculation. They cannot make a continuation if Naoko doesn't want to write it. Plus with so many PreCure using the 90s Sailor Moon formula... would be dull. Season 3 supposedly had good ratings, but poor sells compared to s1 and 2 - it had far less extra and stuff. So now with these movies they hope for both - nice box office and movies tends to sell a lot better on home cinema, Let's hope for a reveal of key visual soon.With each season having a different artstyle it s both exciting and nerve-wracking.
While I cannot factually prove that TOEI wanted to do a Precure version of "Sailor Moon," I, personally, am convinced that it is 100% true.

TOEI has a long history of making magical girl shows (see TOEI's lit of Fugishi Comedy Series) and by the early-2000s, "Sailor Moon" was not only TOEI's most popular magical girl show, but it also had achieved something that the previous shows had not: it transcended geographical borders, was dubbed into multiple different languages, sold toys all over the world, and it had _and has_ fans all over the world.

TOEI would not intentionally create a new show to run against "Sailor Moon." From a business perspective, that would make zero sense.

I am convinced that TOEI approached Naoko and proposed her the idea of expanding the "Sailor Moon" universe, but Naoko was stubborn (EVERYBODY SAYS she is difficult to work with and to negotiate) and she said no.

TOEI, therefore, created "Precure." "Precure" belongs exclusively to TOEI and TOEI can do whatever it want with it: make movies, sell it to other countries, let other countries name it whatever they want to name it (see Netflix's "Glitter Force"), and MAKE MONEY.

Although I think TOEI is to be blamed for Crystal's problems, I suspect that the author may be, too, and that it is her fault that "Precure" is on the top of TOEI's priority list, whereas "Sailor Moon" is not.
 

Rika-Chicchi

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^ That's a good theory - too bad we can never prove/disprove it, unless the persons involved, hopefully including Takeuchi herself, would reveal it themselves someday.