Where is there news/rumors the crystal movies coming out next year?

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I don't think the designs are bad themselves in Season 3 though I can't stand those skirts and inflatable hair bubbles.

I think what got a lot of bad press was the extensive wait during the first two arcs and there was still a ridiculous amount of errors.

The jump in design is a bit jarring as I showed an employee the two seasons and they were shocked wondering what happened.

I'm a pretty forgiving fan & after doing research, I can see how ridiculously expensive S1 and S2 must have been when looking into the cost of anime in general per episode.

I do wonder if Toei actually detested SM, why even give it a third season at all? I actually think they want it to be successful but the current teams are so Pretty Curized, they can't really give SM the energy it needs. To me, SM is on a whole nother level of magical girl that communicates with older audiences from the emotions, characters to the music. Do we really need to bring up the end of S when Usagi screamed Crisis Make Up in desperation?

Pretty Cure is what it is, no hate to the series. If it works, it works.

Season 1 & 2 we're down right beautiful but when they animated it...oh boy... However, the scene where Usgai was in her New Queen Serenity gown in R was so beautiful. I remember that scene like it was everything...

Anywho, I really wanna see what they do. Though I know it will never happen, Is love to see Mars get her pendant and Jupiter get her belt.
 
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It's so strange that I can pass the stiff animation in the first two seasons, but couldn't pass the design of the third one, even in Act 37.
The only one episode is acceptable to me is Telulu one, and the next one is Viluy episode.
Act 37, which was done by the one who drew Act 25, is... so bad for me.
 

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I dont think any designs we had could cause real damage to the show. Afterall 90s anime had episodes with Ando style (and few others iffy ones) and its still didnt bother people that much. Maybe if the designs would be like VERY far from Naoko's or 90s style then it would be an issue.

The real reason why Crystal was getting so much negativity was simply poor quality in almost every aspect: animation, writing, schedule etc. You could tell by the viewership on NicoNico that the show was getting less and less attention with each episode. It wasnt the big or even decent comeback many expected or hoped to see. I still think that if done right (read: with good quality) the S4 movies might bring the project back to life. S3 brought a lot of hope and positivity for people disappointed with S1-2 allthough it divided those who enjoyed those seasons

Also hi, long time no read :)
 

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I do wonder if Toei actually detested SM, why even give it a third season at all? I actually think they want it to be successful but the current teams are so Pretty Curized, they can't really give SM the energy it needs.
Like it was mentioned in one of NJ's post - lack of manpower and priority.

The real reason why Crystal was getting so much negativity was simply poor quality in almost every aspect: animation, writing, schedule etc.
Not to mention the music is either bland and underwhelming. As someone mentioned before it's like church music. It just can't compete with the 90's or PGSM. So glad they fixed that in S3.
 
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Not to mention the music is either bland and underwhelming. As someone mentioned before it's like church music. It just can't compete with the 90's or PGSM. So glad they fixed that in S3.
LOL That's really your opinion here LOL.
Soundtrack of Crystal (S1,2,3) is one of the best I heard all anime mixed.... and that almost the only point where "fans" are agreed about Crystal.
 

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Soundtrack of Crystal (S1,2,3) is one of the best I heard all anime mixed.... and that almost the only point where "fans" are agreed about Crystal.
If one doesn't like some versions of the franchise, whether partially or wholly, that doesn't make them not a fan. :wink:
 
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I dont think any designs we had could cause real damage to the show. Afterall 90s anime had episodes with Ando style (and few others iffy ones) and its still didnt bother people that much. Maybe if the designs would be like VERY far from Naoko's or 90s style then it would be an issue.

The real reason why Crystal was getting so much negativity was simply poor quality in almost every aspect: animation, writing, schedule etc. You could tell by the viewership on NicoNico that the show was getting less and less attention with each episode. It wasnt the big or even decent comeback many expected or hoped to see. I still think that if done right (read: with good quality) the S4 movies might bring the project back to life. S3 brought a lot of hope and positivity for people disappointed with S1-2 allthough it divided those who enjoyed those seasons

Also hi, long time no read :)
Pearsonally I think the tv airings did well.The merchandise must of sold.I mean they would not renew it unless it was profitable.Also Crystal was the top 3 in nico of a show to return.Personally I think it didn't matter what Crystal did or do.There were people who were always not going like or what it.It was just not the adaption some fana wanted .
 
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Pearsonally I think the tv airings did well.The merchandise must of sold.I mean they would not renew it unless it was profitable.Also Crystal was the top 3 in nico of a show to return.Personally I think it didn't matter what Crystal did or do.There were people who were always not going like or what it.It was just not the adaption some fana wanted .
Well im sure the whole project isnt a total flop otherwise we would never get season 3 and then the movies announcement (plus they even brought Tadano back). Cant say how good the show did on tv because we never got any ratings. The merch most likely did well allthough im not sure if being part of the Crystal series means anything to the buyers as SM merch in general seems to be doing well. But its also truth that the show didnt have a good reputation and not just because of the haters. A lot of people thought Toei went very cheap on SM Crystal, same happened with early DB Super.
 

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Hmm partially agree...

I’m not into Sera Muy but I don’t pass my time to write constantly about how bad and idiotic it is. I just chose to ignore the musicals.
While whether constantly attacking or hating a particular version is right or not is subject to different views, those who do that, even when seen as being wrong, don't become a non-fan because of it. :)
 

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Well if you don’t take the SM “fan” base for reference we can see that the “comments” about the SM CRYSTAL Series are quite good actually (IMDb, rottentomatoes, etc...). And the Series was still sold a lot internationally (lets be realistic here TOEI still made a lot of money with this license)...

I tested few people who never saw SM before and no one were interested about seeing more than few minutes of the old anime. The reaction was much more better with the Crystal version.

Being fan of other animes like Saint Seiya or Dragon Ball I saw the same kind complaints from old fans every time a new serie was coming back... it’s not like before cry cry cry...

I guess the biggest problem was than these “fans” never understood that the project of Crystal was to adapt the mangas story and not make a remake about the old anime serie... i was so happy with this Idea because I can still remember being so surprised in the 90’s when discovering the major difference between the anime and the manga in SM. At this time in France manga were just starting to appear and my only reference was the Dragon Ball’s manga so I though SM was also identical in the manga version lol. So it was really my dream since decades to see a real good adaptation of the “real” sailor moon story.

Careful I don’t say Crystal is perfect... far away from it. But usual bashing against it, is getting old. Comon the serie is in hiatus since nearly 2 years... please just don’t watch it if you don’t like it... we got it, the major plot holes and storytelling with absurd new ideas in the first season. The animation also quite bad during the first season.... (please look at the old anime with openned eyes the first season was also sometime HORRIBLE and cheap)... and the absurd idea to respect the format 1 chapter = 1 episode... They could have respect the manga’s story perfectly but developed it somehow with at least few episodes more per “season”...

But THEY DIDN’T...

TOEI are being well famous to be able to make the worst or the best... and SM is not the only series concerned with that sadly ...
 
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^ My point here isn't about whether Crystal bashing is right or not, but that those bashers are still fans even if you & other fans think they're misguided & doing the wrong thing. :wink:
 

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^ My point here isn't about whether Crystal bashing is right or not, but that those bashers are still fans even if you & other fans think they're misguided & doing the wrong thing. :wink:
I know :).
Sadly it’s always the case the worst bashers are most of the time “FANS”
(this apply to everything not just SM). Other people just don’t care if they don’t like it...

But I still think that for me they’re not REAL fans lol. That’s just my opinion :)
 

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I know :).
Sadly it’s always the case the worst basher are most of the time FANS
(this apply to everything not just SM). Other people just don’t care if they don’t like it... But I still think that for me they’re not real fans lol. That’s just my opinion :)
Bashing of different versions is a pretty common thing in various fandoms. lol If you don't agree w/ them, just point out their mistakes (as you've done), but I think "disqualifying" them as fans isn't helpful in such arguments - it's no different than calling names. As a joke, bashers could also say those who like what they bash aren't fans or real fans. lol
 

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Bashing of different versions is a pretty common thing in various fandoms. lol If you don't agree w/ them, just point out their mistakes (as you've done), but I think "disqualifying" them as fans isn't helpful in such arguments - it's no different than calling names. As a joke, bashers could also say those who like what they bash aren't fans or real fans. lol
Yeah true you made your point here ;)
 
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Some of the music was nice and others were kinda..meh but it wasn't terrible to me. I'm really worried about Artemis and that rock. Idk if they will keep that in.

Ya know I had realized that some fans do want the 90s. I know a few folks that were shocked Professor Tomoe was so evil and got moon murked unlike Holy Tomoe in the anime. Since we all know how things are already...It will probably be even more shocking to see the Amazon Trio get murked by some folks who have never read the manga. The look of surprise on their face is awesome. I am praying that we actually get to see Mars and Jupiter kill their respective opponents..I am so hoping this.

I mean I am excited, even though we haven't had any news I'm still exciting by just the thought of what we might see. Talking weapons, Phobos and Deimos human forms, The Sailor Quartet... (A new and powerful version of Moon Gorgeous Meditation).

I'm jus amped by the thought of getting to see things we've never seen onscreen.

This has to do good. I mean Eternal Sailor Moon appears at the end of the 2nd movie...We need to see that

I'm remaining faithful..even so, since Sailor Moon 4D is returning to Universal Japan.
 

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I know :).
Sadly it’s always the case the worst bashers are most of the time “FANS”
(this apply to everything not just SM). Other people just don’t care if they don’t like it...

But I still think that for me they’re not REAL fans lol. That’s just my opinion :)
Don't use the "not real fans" excuse, it's REALLY annoying and one thing I had to suffer dealing with when I met rabid Crystal fans... :confused:


Some of the music was nice and others were kinda..meh but it wasn't terrible to me. I'm really worried about Artemis and that rock. Idk if they will keep that in.

Ya know I had realized that some fans do want the 90s. I know a few folks that were shocked Professor Tomoe was so evil and got moon murked unlike Holy Tomoe in the anime. Since we all know how things are already...It will probably be even more shocking to see the Amazon Trio get murked by some folks who have never read the manga. The look of surprise on their face is awesome. I am praying that we actually get to see Mars and Jupiter kill their respective opponents..I am so hoping this.

I mean I am excited, even though we haven't had any news I'm still exciting by just the thought of what we might see. Talking weapons, Phobos and Deimos human forms, The Sailor Quartet... (A new and powerful version of Moon Gorgeous Meditation).

I'm jus amped by the thought of getting to see things we've never seen onscreen.

This has to do good. I mean Eternal Sailor Moon appears at the end of the 2nd movie...We need to see that

I'm remaining faithful..even so, since Sailor Moon 4D is returning to Universal Japan.
I wanna see Mercury take down Fish Eye too, that would be cool.
 

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yeah the whole "real fans" thing is quite irritating like who are they to dictate who's a real fan and who isn't just because one person
likes one version and another doesn't automatically they are not considered a true fan cause according to these kinds of people to be a real fan you have to like every single thing which is just ridiculous, reminds me of this one dude on Facebook who said to be a real star wars fan one had to have been to the theaters and seen it in 1977 are you kidding me? what kind of logic is that? so I ignore when people say that and you [meaning everyone] should too

it's very simple your already a fan for liking even just one version, be it Dic dub or any language dub different than japanese or any other version

never let anyone tell you your not a fan cause your not into the manga or crystal or 90s etc everyone is different and not everyone has the same tastes our differences makes us more interesting those kinds of fans want everyone to be grey blobs who are all the same.
 

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I tested few people who never saw SM before and no one were interested about seeing more than few minutes of the old anime. The reaction was much more better with the Crystal version.
Out of curiosity, what exactly did you show them? If you showed them the first episode of the 90s anime and the first episode of Crystal, I don't think it would be surprising that people would prefer Crystal. But if you showed them the season 1 finales (or close enough) of each... I can't imagine anyone finding Crystal's "let's stab Beryl's necklace" "showdown" more engaging that the 90s anime's epic battle against Super Beryl.