Why Sailor Moon is expensive - proof

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Tuxedo Kevin

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Here is a chart comparing that 2011 Brazilian S season DVD (which flopped horribly) pricing to really sucessful Hollywood shows also released on DVD in Brazil.
As you can see in "preço por episódio" (price per episode), TOEI and PRINCESS NAOKO COMPANY (PNP) sell Sailor Moon episodes by TWICE the price of famous Hollywood shows.
In "preço por minuto" (price per minute) we can see each Sailor Moon episode minute is actually worth FOUR TIMES the price of a Lost episóde minute.
So, ladies and gentlemen, here we can see one of the reasons why its so hard for a company to get its hands on a Sailor Moon license.

P.S.: Both "reais" and "R$" stand for the Brazilian currency.

 
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MementoNepenthe

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25 BRL = approximately $6.61 USD. $6.61 for a DVD with 3 episodes isn't a bad deal. The US DVDs had 6 episodes each on average and sold for $20, so the Brazilian release is cheap by comparison.

Part of what drives up price is packaging. That chart is comparing the price per disc between a single-disc release (Sailor Moon) and the discs in box-set releases. Box sets are always going to have a lower price per disc because there's less packaging.

Even looking at price per minute... Sailor Moon's cost is apparently 0.39 BRL per minute.

Here's a Brazilian DVD release of a Scooby-Doo Movie I found. 79 BRL for a 78 minute long movie comes to 1.01 BRL per minute - nearly triple Sailor Moon's cost.
 

Tuxedo Kevin

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25 BRL = approximately $6.61 USD. $6.61 for a DVD with 3 episodes isn't a bad deal. The US DVDs had 6 episodes each on average and sold for $20, so the Brazilian release is cheap by comparison.

Part of what drives up price is packaging. That chart is comparing the price per disc between a single-disc release (Sailor Moon) and the discs in box-set releases. Box sets are always going to have a lower price per disc because there's less packaging.

Even looking at price per minute... Sailor Moon's cost is apparently 0.39 BRL per minute.

Here's a Brazilian DVD release of a Scooby-Doo Movie I found. 79 BRL for a 78 minute long movie comes to 1.01 BRL per minute - nearly triple Sailor Moon's cost.
You're really clever.
But 25 BRL for three episodes isn't a good deal for Brazilians. Winx Club, for example, had a DVD containing seven season 5 episodes for 19 BRL back in 2013, two years after the SMS discontinued release. Sailor Moon S is a 1994 show, Winx Sirenix is from 2012. It's bizarre pricing.
And actually, Mercado Livre is literally our eBay lol These Scooby DVDs are probably out of print, so that's why they are so expensive.
And the minimum wage in Brazil is $264,02 USD. So $6,61 USD may be a good deal for Americans when it comes to 3 Sailor Moon episodes, but not for us.
 
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Kinda reminds me of Capcom's handling of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure HD on the PS3 & 360. Their digital Arcade & PS1 ports back then were $15 or less but with JoJo, they raised the price to $20 which, while it doesn't sound like a big deal, actually was a ripoff for what they were offering with the game itself (close to arcade-perfect like the Dreamcast version but missing the features that made the PS1 version better) and they didn't even release physical discs for it which ruined things when the license expired 2 years later (2012-2014).
 
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MementoNepenthe

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You're really clever.
But 25 BRL for three episodes isn't a good deal for Brazilians. Winx Club, for example, had a DVD containing seven season 5 episodes for 19 BRL back in 2013, two years after the SMS discontinued release. Sailor Moon S is a 1994 show, Winx Sirenix is from 2012. It's bizarre pricing.
And actually, Mercado Livre is literally our eBay lol These Scooby DVDs are probably out of print, so that's why they are so expensive.
And the minimum wage in Brazil is $264,02 USD. So $6,61 USD may be a good deal for Americans when it comes to 3 Sailor Moon episodes, but not for us.
Sorry, didn't know that about Mercado Livre as I'm unfamiliar with Brazilian sites.

I think it would be more relevant to compare the price of this release of Sailor Moon to the price of other single-disc releases of anime series, especially of Toei anime.

According to this, single volumes of the first season of Digimon, containing 4 episodes each (first volume had 5) sold/sell for R19,90. That comes to about R4,97 an episode, a little over half the cost of an episode of Sailor Moon released in the same kind of format. Of course, there are other factors to consider (like video and audio quality, bonus features, production costs for dubbing/dubbing studio) and I'd still like to see costs of other Toei anime single-disc releases, as I said (I'm sure you'd be better at finding examples of that than I), but I think this comparison better supports your argument than that chart.
 
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Tuxedo Kevin

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Sorry, didn't know that about Mercado Livre as I'm unfamiliar with Brazilian sites.

I think it would be more relevant to compare the price of this release of Sailor Moon to the price of other single-disc releases of anime series, especially of Toei anime.

According to this, single volumes of the first season of Digimon, containing 4 episodes each (first volume had 5) sold/sell for R19,90. That comes to about R4,97 an episode, a little over half the cost of an episode of Sailor Moon released in the same kind of format. Of course, there are other factors to consider (like video and audio quality, bonus features, production costs for dubbing/dubbing studio) and I'd still like to see costs of other Toei anime single-disc releases, as I said (I'm sure you'd be better at finding examples of that than I), but I think this comparison better supports your argument than that chart.
I will try to bring Saint Seiya and Dragon Ball (pretty much the most popular anime shows in Brazil ever) DVD prices.
But for both the SMS and Digimon release, the dubbing had already been produced by Cloverway ten years before. Digimon went to what was Latin America's biggest dubbing studio at the time because it was picked by Brazil's biggest TV network, and Sailor Moon R-Stars went to a really crappy studio with payment issues where a lot of voice actors refused to work in .
 

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Here's a DBZ release containing 4 episodes per disc for R$24,90. So, R$6,22 per episode... Still a bit cheaper than Sailor Moon.
Dragon Ball Z: Playarte lança em junho novos volumes em DVD

For that SMS DVD release, there were members of a Brazilan SM fanclub reuniting with Toei. One of the girls that attended the reunions once told me Naoko was the reason Sailor Moon episodes were so expensive. This is sad, since SM was never huge here like it was in most countries, making most Brazilian companies unwilling to spend what Naoko wants on a license. That redub was supposed to be on air in the first trimester of 2019, and we are already in the third trimester without any news regarding it. That makes me wonder if Toei actually closed a deal before making the announcement.
At least we are getting the kanzenban. :neutral:
 
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