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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:39 am 
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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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We have a strong evidence proving the opposite. Sailor Moon does make people straight.

Christian Weston Chandler used to look at a Sailor Moon poster every night to keep him straight. After the poster was accidentally destroyed in a fire, he started turning gay (a male lesbian, to be more precise).

Source: https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Sailor_Moon_Poster_of_Fail

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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If we're talking about the Middle Ages term gay, as in happy, then yes, Sailor Moon has made young boy gay. If we're not, then that psycho needs to see a professional.


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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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Maraviollantes wrote:
We have a strong evidence proving the opposite. Sailor Moon does make people straight.

Christian Weston Chandler used to look at a Sailor Moon poster every night to keep him straight. After the poster was accidentally destroyed in a fire, he started turning gay (a male lesbian, to be more precise).

Source: https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Sailor_Moon_Poster_of_Fail

Luna was on that poster too, so he could also be a zoophile. :P

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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my friends at elementary/middle school who watched sm aren't gay as far as i know
besides most of them had a crush on Rei :D

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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I can speak for myself when I say I love sailor moon and I'm straight heck I even list the 90s anime as my all time favorite anime

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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[quote="Maraviollantes"]We have a strong evidence proving the opposite. Sailor Moon does make people straight.

Christian Weston Chandler used to look at a Sailor Moon poster every night to keep him straight. After the poster was accidentally destroyed in a fire, he started turning gay (a male lesbian, to be more precise).

I forgot about that. XD Some people have called him out for that because Chibiusa is also on the poster.

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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^ And I've also called him out for zoophilia because Luna was on that poster too. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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As someone actually from Italy, I can say that Vera Slepoj is nowadays famous only for the sheer amount of mocking she collects every time she's mentioned. Someone should have thought things twice before opening her sewer.

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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I could see where they might be going with this but one thing this guy didn't look into was the 90s/Team up fascination.
This was the 90s man. I had a super fascination with SM when I was young boy but at that time we had Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers so I think my fascination was with the color coded Sentai-esque Team up and it didn't matter. But if SM was the only thing out there maybe it would've been different?


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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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I don't understand why watching a show with women in it would somehow make you gay yet watching a show with hypermasculine men like DBZ does not. As a gay man, I am very attracted to strong masculine men. So wouldn't watching a show with nothing but ultra masculine men in it be more likely to have an influence on someone's sexuality than watching a show with beautiful women in it?


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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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I don't understand why watching a show with women in it would somehow make you gay yet watching a show with hypermasculine men like DBZ does not. As a gay man, I am very attracted to strong masculine men. So wouldn't watching a show with nothing but ultra masculine men in it be more likely to have an influence on someone's sexuality than watching a show with beautiful women in it?

my thoughts exactly it's called a logical view but this psychologist has none
as a straight man sm changed my view on shows aimed at women and is proof boys can watch too and it has nothing to do with sexuality
despite me having a crush on "serena" from day one in 1995 P-: but I also love the concept of female heros heck I love Wonder Woman also I love the powerpuff girls yet I had no crushes there except maybe miss bellum :mischief:
I love Cheetara on thundercats too
sm being my first true exposure to anime drew me in too at that time you couldn't pay me to watch dbz [I like it now though]

a hero is a hero don't matter the gender or species [ like TMNT for ex] it is
as long as you can look up to them I see no problem

most people like spider-man batman superman etc my hero is sailor moon

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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Sailor Moon helped me to accept my sexuality when I was young but I'm pretty sure I would have still turned out gay even if I never saw it. I just probably would have realized it a lot later instead of in my teen years.


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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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Neon Genesis wrote:
Sailor Moon helped me to accept my sexuality when I was young but I'm pretty sure I would have still turned out gay even if I never saw it. I just probably would have realized it a lot later instead of in my teen years.

Yeah, no shows can change one's inborn sexual orientation, & they at most can only make one more aware of it. :)

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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As I have stated before Vera Slepoj is apparently not a very good psychologist as the consensus of mainstream psychology is that a person's sexual orientation is inborn and can not be changed.

Again as a transwoman Sailor Moon didn't make me trans it did make me more accepting of myself but I always felt things way as far as I can remember. I am also heteroromantic so I always liked guys sexually. Two of my first crushes were Zack and Slater from Saved By the Bell. I also had fantasies about the guys on X-Men, Power Rangers, Batman etc and I felt this way long before Sailor Moon was brought forward in America.

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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I love these kind of threads, together with Swan Cat posts, they're the best thing about this forum.

Vera Slepoj wrote:
SM makes young boys gay


Where is the lie?

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The title of this thread is hysterical. I laugh loud whenever I read it. :lol:

When I was a kid, I absolutely did not think of myself as gay (I did not accept my sexual orientation until I was 17). But I can say that I started becoming aware of my sexual orientation, at least implicitly, while watching "Sailor Moon." The boys I knew who watched the show did so because they had fallen in love (literally) with Ami, Rei, or Minako. They were straight. They are all now (happily) married to women and some even have children. Me? Looking back now, I can say with confidence that I had a crush on Mamoru. Oh well. The facts of life.

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 Post subject: Re: According to a psychologist, SM makes young boys gay.
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Wiki article uses the pronoun "he."

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Slepoj

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When I was a kid, I absolutely did not think of myself as gay (I did not accept my sexual orientation until I was 17). But I can say that I started becoming aware of my sexual orientation, at least implicitly, while watching "Sailor Moon."

Vera Slepoj could use your case to prove she was right. :P

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As I have stated before Vera Slepoj is apparently not a very good psychologist as the consensus of mainstream psychology is that a person's sexual orientation is inborn and can not be changed.

Why is that even relevant if it can be changed or not? "Defending" homosexuality with a rejoinder that one is born with it and it wasn't their choice sounds almost like defending a person who was born with AIDS, so it's not their fault they have it. Is homosexuality so bad that it can be allowed to exist solely because one is born with it and there is no way to change it? That's what the whole "inborn homosexuality" argument strongly implies.

If there is nothing bad about homosexuality, then it's perfectly fine even if it's somebody's choice, isn't it? Nobody would blame anybody for choosing to love music, or strawberries, and attempted to scrutinize if their love for those is genetic or acquired later in life. And nobody has to defend themselves for loving strawberries or music by arguing they were born with it, so they had no choice. Me thinks a lot of so-called "defenders" of homosexuality who resort all the time to "it's inborn, so there was no choice" argument, remain deeply homophobic inside. :purpleghost:

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People with AIDS shouldn't be defended? WTF? So Sailor Moon fandom is now into bashing people with AIDS?


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well this is a descent into madness :googly: :googly: :googly: :googly: :googly: :googly: :googly: :googly:

I'm gonna watch until it gets too far out of hand

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People who are born with AIDS through no fault of their own absolutely should be defended and treated with kindness and respect.


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Maraviollantes wrote:
Clow wrote:
When I was a kid, I absolutely did not think of myself as gay (I did not accept my sexual orientation until I was 17). But I can say that I started becoming aware of my sexual orientation, at least implicitly, while watching "Sailor Moon."

Vera Slepoj could use your case to prove she was right. :P

He only said that the show made him aware of his sexual orientation, not that it actually changed his orientation. But I guess even that could still be a sufficient justification for her to attack it for having bad social/behavioral influence by making gay people aware of & accept their orientation, hence changing their related behaviors (or making that happen earlier) after watching it. :lol:

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As I have stated before Vera Slepoj is apparently not a very good psychologist as the consensus of mainstream psychology is that a person's sexual orientation is inborn and can not be changed.

Why is that even relevant if it can be changed or not? "Defending" homosexuality with a rejoinder that one is born with it and it wasn't their choice sounds almost like defending a person who was born with AIDS, so it's not their fault they have it. Is homosexuality so bad that it can be allowed to exist solely because one is born with it and there is no way to change it? That's what the whole "inborn homosexuality" argument strongly implies.

If there is nothing bad about homosexuality, then it's perfectly fine even if it's somebody's choice, isn't it? Nobody would blame anybody for choosing to love music, or strawberries, and attempted to scrutinize if their love for those is genetic or acquired later in life. And nobody has to defend themselves for loving strawberries or music by arguing they were born with it, so they had no choice. Me thinks a lot of so-called "defenders" of homosexuality who resort all the time to "it's inborn, so there was no choice" argument, remain deeply homophobic inside. :purpleghost:

So actually there's nothing wrong at all to claim that the show makes people gay, since being gay isn't a bad/negative thing, just as there's nothing wrong for one to love strawberries, which they previously don't, after watching a food show about the fruit? And people opposing such claims are actually homophobic/strawberry-phobic? :P But jokings aside, while I can't rule out the homophobic intention/motivation in stressing the inborn nature of sexual orientation by some people, it can also be simply because that claim is factually incorrect, basing on the current scientific knowledge as understood. :)

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I knew this thread would continue to be gold.
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People with AIDS shouldn't be defended? WTF? So Sailor Moon fandom is now into bashing people with AIDS?

OMG I spotted *AIDS* in the sentence, what did that guy mean, I don't understand, my ADD won't let me to read the rest, that guy must be AIDS hater, I must write my angry reply FAST, because this is SCANDALOUS!!!111

Since complex analogies are apparently way above your limited attention span, I'll rephrase in simpler terms:

* being born gay is normal;
* choosing to be gay is normal;
* teaching kids to be gay through cartoons is normal;
* because homosexuality is normal;

You me understand now?

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