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 Post subject: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:47 am 
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I know there are problems with Viz but there are also good things.

So does the bad and good places each out?

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:12 am 
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Well I'm finally getting around to watching the VIZ dub properly with my roommate and we love it. I was a little sad that none of the songs were translated (except for episode seven of course) but then again we've only done season one. I don't know if this is bad or not but I thought Katarina should have had a British accent. My other complaint is that Shingo sounds a bit too old but I got used to that.

Other than that, I'm loving it so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:17 am 
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I personally enjoy the Viz dub a lot but a faithful purely uncut dub with a new cast was what I always dreamed of and I got what I wanted out of it. There are issues I wish could have been done better but I'm just glad i can finally own my favorite TV show without having to spend over $500 on eBay for a used DVD. So that alone for me more than makeups for the bad stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:52 am 
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The good is that we finally get a mostly accurate dub translated in a language we can understand. The bad news some of the dialogue changes are not for the best but over all I think it is still a pretty awesome dub.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:38 am 
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I love the new dub. I love the packaging. However, the video quality is absolute poo. That's why I buy Madman's Australian sets so I can watch the new dub at a better quality since my Blu-Ray player upscales the footage pretty well. The downside to Madman's sets is that their subtitles aren't great as far as timing and punctuation goes, and also their DVD cases are poo. :-/

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:22 am 
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Good:
The new dub

Bad:
The technical problems with the image of the first season (colors, etc)
I don't like the covers of the discs much; I wish they were more vibrant
The price (I think they charge too much; funimation has better deals)

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:38 pm 
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Good:
It's generated new buzz around the franchise in the English-speaking market
It's made the 90s anime available for legal purchase in the English-speaking market once again

Bad:
An incredibly awkward, unnatural sounding script that is either too literal or makes stupid changes, so it's not quite the 100% faithful dub it presents itself to be
Less-than-great video quality due to botched upscaling
The voice acting ranges from dreadful to mediocre with only a handful of voices (mostly the villains) actually giving enjoyable performances

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:28 pm 
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Good:

- There's a new, uncensored, faithful dub
- Sailor Moon is legally available in the US again

Bad:
- Everything else


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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:36 pm 
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People keep mentioning bad acting and/or way too literal translations so it sounds unnatural. I have heard little to none of this. I just sit back and enjoy a faithful and entertaining dub.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:11 pm 
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doctorwho29 wrote:
People keep mentioning bad acting and/or way too literal translations so it sounds unnatural. I have heard little to none of this. I just sit back and enjoy a faithful and entertaining dub.


Most of it is in the "Flaws in the Viz dub to point out cuz I dunno" topic.

Its a terrible thread in my honest opinion. :evillaugh: XD :googly: :lol: :cthulhu: :quagmire: :quagmire: :quagmire: :cthulhu: :lol: :googly: XD :evillaugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:39 pm 
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I've also pointed out many instances of it in my comparisons of the DiC and Viz dubs in the DiC vs Viz thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:21 pm 
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The video quality and disc errors are the worst issues but I love the new uncut dub a lot and getting to see the R movie in theaters was such an incredible experience I never thought I would get to have. I'm also just really happy I can finally own my favorite show without having to pay over $500 for used DVDs on eBay. I also can't wait to finally get to own Sailor Stars on DVD which is something else I thought would never happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:33 pm 
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Well let's see..

Goods:
More faithful to the original
No name changes
No music changes
No scenes are cut or changed
Can legally buy these here in the US
Beautiful cover case art (the Blu-Rays and regular DVD cases are amazing!)
Good voice acting (well sorta lol)

Bads:
Video quality (like someone already mentioned here)
Some of the voice acting can be a bit awkward/terrible for some characters
The pronunciation of some the character's names being a bit off
The translation of songs (especially Moonlight Densetsu)
Change in dialogue to add minor curse words that wasn't there in the original script (e.g. Rubeus asking Tuxedo Mask "Who the hell are you?")

That's all I can remember at the moment since it's been a while since I've watched the VIZ dub lol

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:03 pm 
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pros:

-The new dub is pretty great
-The new subtitles are pretty great
-Personally, I like the minimalist covers. It kinda reminds me of the original laser disc releases and I hate cluttered covers.

cons:

-The sound-mixing in the dub has gotten lazy ever since they started R with the voices being much louder than the music and sound effects
-The translation for Moonlight Densetsu
-The disgusting "HD remaster." A terrible upscale that freezes still-frames, scrubs away the grain leaving the image looking smudged and blurry, "color-correction" that just applies a filter that turns Usagi's magenta/pinkish-red ribbons into a crap-brown among other things, and the god awful ghost frames that plagued the first season's release. Not to mention lying about it being Toei's fault and doctoring images of the Japanese release to make themselves look better.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:36 am 
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Seen2 wrote:
Not to mention lying about it being Toei's fault and doctoring images of the Japanese release to make themselves look better.

I'm surprised Toei didn't respond to that, but they actually gave proper HD remasters to Viz for the movie.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad and Goods thing about Viz
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:49 pm 
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Pros:
More mature and faithful dubbed version.
The availability of Sailor Moon series and it's goods again!!

Cons:
Why do most of the cast sound "meh"? Honestly, the attack yells are just so..
The prices of the DVDs are $20 for a half season of a 25 year old show.
Sound mixing. Even to me, a person with moderate-to-severe hearing "loss", can tell it's subpar.
The remastering...is lazy.

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