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 Post subject: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:11 am 
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When did Viz start geoblocking US viewing of DiC/Cloverway clips on YouTube, and when did they get the rights to those dubs?

EDIT: Apparently Viz Crystal transformation clips are being geoblocked too now.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
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When did Viz start geoblocking US viewing of DiC/Cloverway clips on YouTube, and when did they get the rights to those dubs?

EDIT: Apparently Viz Crystal transformation clips are being geoblocked too now.


Regardless I don't see why they want to block stuff in the US. Who the hell cares about another crappy 90s reboot unless you can see clips of the story and CGI yourself? There's always Tor and VPN I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
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Apparently there's a way around blocked videos. If you replace "tube" with "pak" in the URLs then you can watch them that way through a different site.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:02 pm 
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redblade7 wrote:
When did Viz start geoblocking US viewing of DiC/Cloverway clips on YouTube, and when did they get the rights to those dubs?

EDIT: Apparently Viz Crystal transformation clips are being geoblocked too now.


Viz bought the rights some time ago. DiC became bankrupt a while back and Viz purchased the rights to the franchise, so they aren't keen on letting old fans watch the ones that were watched in the 90s

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:35 pm 
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Viz bought the rights some time ago. DiC became bankrupt a while back and Viz purchased the rights to the franchise, so they aren't keen on letting old fans watch the ones that were watched in the 90s


Had no idea Viz bought it. As far as I knew, the 90s stuff was rendered an orphan work due to the bankruptcy, and that Naoko Takeuchi had some role in having it stay that way.

You think maybe Viz will start reissuing the 90s stuff when they're done with Stars? As a new Moonie I've only seen clips and episodes on streaming sites when I've wanted to compare things, and the only thing I prefer about DiC/Cloverway is the audio in the transformations. But for people who "grew up with it" I"m sure there's a market for DiC/Cloverway.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:16 pm 
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my assumption is when viz bought the US license to SM they bought all the rights including the old dubs
I guess because they want their new dub to be the definitive go-to version for SM in English and/or sub
and I suppose the situation with Dic is part of that as well

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:24 am 
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lunar5313 wrote:
redblade7 wrote:
When did Viz start geoblocking US viewing of DiC/Cloverway clips on YouTube, and when did they get the rights to those dubs?

EDIT: Apparently Viz Crystal transformation clips are being geoblocked too now.


Viz bought the rights some time ago. DiC became bankrupt a while back and Viz purchased the rights to the franchise, so they aren't keen on letting old fans watch the ones that were watched in the 90s


Does that mean they own the Toonmakers pilot? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:36 am 
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Toei owns the Toonmakers pilot, so whether or not Viz has the rights to it now depends on whether or not it was included in their contract. Someone should ask Char about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
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my assumption is when viz bought the US license to SM they bought all the rights including the old dubs
I guess because they want their new dub to be the definitive go-to version for SM in English and/or sub
and I suppose the situation with Dic is part of that as well


God I hope not. DiC wasn't the best Sailor Moon publisher but it was still very important.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:25 pm 
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Maybe it's copyright matching the DiC/Cloverway footage with Viz's. I mean, they're both based on the same show even if they are separate dubs.

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 Post subject: Re: Viz geoblocking DiC/Cloverway material?
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 2:48 pm 
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It is not a surprise that much. Disney owns the Stars Wars franchise and has issued players of the old Lucas Arts games warnings not to play music. Viz is doing the same in the sense that they own the rights to Sailor Moon in the US.

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