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 Post subject: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:51 am 
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I'm kinda new to this, but I'm wondering if Viz Media got the Bluray footage (good animation) or the TV footage (sloppy animation). I mean, they already got screwed with their Season 1 dub in footage, but do they seem to be getting luckier or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:49 am 
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in BD\dvd they using Japanese BD(TV) ver.
In TV, Japan used Bluray version

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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:40 am 
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shiroi wrote:
I'm kinda new to this, but I'm wondering if Viz Media got the Bluray footage (good animation) or the TV footage (sloppy animation).


You're thinking of the online version, the Japanese TV version used the Blu-ray masters but added the 10-second sponsor cards to them. This is the version that Viz has since they came with clean versions of those sponsor cards.

Also Viz has the final version of Act 14 which is good because Europe has a different master for that episode which showed a second unfinished version of the Crystal Star Brooch.

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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:25 pm 
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NJ_ wrote:
shiroi wrote:
I'm kinda new to this, but I'm wondering if Viz Media got the Bluray footage (good animation) or the TV footage (sloppy animation).


You're thinking of the online version, the Japanese TV version used the Blu-ray masters but added the 10-second sponsor cards to them. This is the version that Viz has since they came with clean versions of those sponsor cards.

Also Viz has the final version of Act 14 which is good because Europe has a different master for that episode which showed a second unfinished version of the Crystal Star Brooch.

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France (also used in Portugal as well)

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Actually the correct one was used in Italy too. However the opening credits did not change during the Black Moon arc... We still wonder why.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:11 pm 
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SignorinaTsukino wrote:
Actually the correct one was used in Italy too. However the opening credits did not change during the Black Moon arc... We still wonder why.


Oh really? That's good to know, though I wonder if they had to fight for it knowing what happened in Portugal & France since I've heard Toei's European branch can be difficult to deal with (supposedly more difficult than the American branch) as far as licensing is concerned.

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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:02 pm 
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NJ_ wrote:
SignorinaTsukino wrote:
Actually the correct one was used in Italy too. However the opening credits did not change during the Black Moon arc... We still wonder why.


Oh really? That's good to know, though I wonder if they had to fight for it knowing what happened in Portugal & France since I've heard Toei's European branch can be difficult to deal with (supposedly more difficult than the American branch) as far as licensing is concerned.
It was difficult. They chose everything concerning the Italian editon, they chose to translate the attacks and the transformation phrases and they decided t change Crystal Tokyo in Crystal City even if It was previously stated numerous times that the Story is set in Tokyo. Apparently they changed the lyrics of the Italian version of Moon Pride at the last moment


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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:08 pm 
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SignorinaTsukino wrote:
Actually the correct one was used in Italy too. However the opening credits did not change during the Black Moon arc... We still wonder why.


Maybe Toei didn't provide a creditless version for the second opening?


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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
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Umino wrote:
Maybe Toei didn't provide a creditless version for the second opening?


It wasn't included with the Japanese Blu-ray volumes but Viz was able to get them for the dub streams on Hulu, either that or they edited the credits out themselves (which I believe is easy to do), I guess we'll find out when season 2 is out since they do have a clean opening advertised for that set.

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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:56 am 
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NJ_ wrote:
Umino wrote:
Maybe Toei didn't provide a creditless version for the second opening?


It wasn't included with the Japanese Blu-ray volumes but Viz was able to get them for the dub streams on Hulu, either that or they edited the credits out themselves (which I believe is easy to do), I guess we'll find out when season 2 is out since they do have a clean opening advertised for that set.


Sadly, I can confirm that it's not included in the Viz sets. Only clean OP1 and the clean ED were included, the same as set 1.


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KAKERU wrote:
Sadly, I can confirm that it's not included in the Viz sets. Only clean OP1 and the clean ED were included, the same as set 1.


Really? So then what the heck did Viz do? Did they really edit the JP text out themselves for Hulu?

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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
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NJ_ wrote:
KAKERU wrote:
Sadly, I can confirm that it's not included in the Viz sets. Only clean OP1 and the clean ED were included, the same as set 1.


Really? So then what the heck did Viz do? Did they really edit the JP text out themselves for Hulu?


It would be shocking if Viz had actually gone through all that editing. Perhaps Toei did provide it but did not allow them to release it for the home media release, or Toei may have provided the English credited version to Viz. If someone could ask Viz or send them a tweet about it?


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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
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This is confusing; Viz got the good, improved footage, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Which footage did Viz get?
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^Yes, with the final version of Act 14 as well.

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