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Worst Crystal season?
Season 1 68%  68%  [ 20 ]
Season 2 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Season 3 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Both seasons 1 & 2 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
All of the above 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Undecided/Neither 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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 Post subject: What is the worst season of Crystal so far?
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What do you think are the worst seasons of Crystal in terms of writing, character and pace? I personally think that season one is the absolute worst.

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No poll? :)

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Can we actually open a discussion as to WHY though?


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No poll? :)


I'll make a poll right away.


EDIT: Made a poll.

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 Post subject: Re: What is the worst season of Crystal so far?
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Can we actually open a discussion as to WHY though?

I think anyone posting the what here is expected to explain the why too. :)

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 Post subject: Re: What is the worst season of Crystal so far?
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^ Good point, but we all saw how ugly things got without contexts so that’s what my comment was directed at.

Id say that Season 1 was the weakest link. The elimination of the joke panels in the manga didn’t help it, and while I can appreciate a serious story I don’t think that the few characters moments we get in such a fast paced story as this can be afforded to be sacrificed.
The only other con to this season was the storyline changes (that didn’t likely stem from censorship like Beryl being gutted). The SenxShi romance and conflict would have benefited from additional episodes because they felt flat with no development. Beryls backstory could have been more memorable had it received this treatment too.

Sticking closer to the manga for the next 2 seasons -even with its faults- worked in its favor and though I enjoyed season 1 I won’t pretend that the start was shaky.


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Season 1. The first arc of the manga is not very good, IMO. The manga becomes good starting with the Black Moon arc --and then it gets better and better.

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I voted for Season 1. It's the weaker of the bunch.


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I voted for Season 1, too. Mainly because of all the character moments being removed and Usagi commiting suicide in the present!

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Season 1. The first arc of the manga is not very good, IMO. The manga becomes good starting with the Black Moon arc


I feel the exact opposite :P

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I voted for Season 1, too. Mainly because of all the character moments being removed and Usagi commiting suicide in the present!


Usagi committing suicide is already part of the story!
But if it were me, I’d write that a bit differently

...like having Endymion strike her down and have her be force to kill him.
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It pains me to say this but Season 1 ruined the Dark Kingdom arc for me. The lack of cool moment's like Usagi's transformation into a groom, no funny moments, Moon killing Beryl and her necklace, and the stupid Senshi x Shittenou subplot ruined it for me. Plus, I hated the CGI transformations.

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Plus, I hated the CGI transformations.


I don't like the 3D CGI transformation sequences, either. I also didn't how they were in full length, resulting in a loss of characterization for EVERYONE!

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all the above for me XD course I've always been biased towards the 90s anime and i don't care who knows it XD

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all the above for me XD course I've always been biased towards the 90s anime and i don't care who knows it XD


I understand how you feel, Ryo. The 90's anime holds a special place in your heart, mostly due to Ami and Usagi. Though, I did enjoy Crystal season 3, I fully respect your opinion.

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This alone should tell you all which season (and episode) is the worst.

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^ I won’t say that the romance wasn’t clumsily written but why is it THAT bad that they all cried after seeing four humans being obliterated right in front of them?
It’d be funnier if they were nonchalant but it was a perfectly normal way to react xD

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all the above for me XD course I've always been biased towards the 90s anime and i don't care who knows it XD


I don’t think it’s bad to say that you have a bias :)
Now, PRETENDING not to while it being obvious is bad xD
-that last statement doesn’t mean you, just people who do this in general.

Now, in the most neutral way possible, I just want to ask what makes you dislike all of the seasons?


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^^i hated the Artwork, The Pacing Of the Story And Chiba XD :lol:

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^ I chortled after reading that last reason xD


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sen x shi :roll:
not having Venus use her sword on beryl in favor for having moon attack her necklace :|
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all the above for me XD course I've always been biased towards the 90s anime and i don't care who knows it XD

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Season 1 by far. Horrible characterization, atrocious animation, nonsensical changes to the story and abominable SxS. For me it's not just the worst season of Crystal, it's the worst thing in the universe the franchise.


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For me it's not just the worst season of Crystal, it's the worst thing in the universe the franchise.


Has it outdone..............

Spoiler: show
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Season 1 and it is funny because for me the Black Moon Arc is the worst part of the manga. The Senshi x Shittenou subplot is the worst thing that ever happened to the franchise(also the CGI transformations didn't help)


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Has it outdone..............

Spoiler: show
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Unfortunately yes.


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Sometimes I feel that they made SMC3 because they didn't want the franchise get cold, they just wanted us to have something to watch... :lol: :lol: :lol: When I watch SMC with my father and mother, I usually play season I or II. If I play season III, they usually scold me because I waste money to "this thing" :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Season One could have been really good. So many interesting things in it that were done well, shafted by some shoddy parts


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Season 1. My reasons for which have all been listed, but my biggest disappointment was simply how much they changed from the manga. I wouldn't have minded had the changes been well-done, but nearly every change they made made things worse instead of better.

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^ I won’t say that the romance wasn’t clumsily written but why is it THAT bad that they all cried after seeing four humans being obliterated right in front of them?
It’d be funnier if they were nonchalant but it was a perfectly normal way to react xD

My problem with the crying is their reactions were too similar. Like I could buy Venus crying because she was the most in-tune to her past memories. But I think the others should have had more diverse reactions. Like Mercury could be in shock, still trying to process everything. Jupiter could be angry, wanting to avenge them. And Mars could have been the one to deliver tough love, saying that while it's sad they can't afford to let it distract them from their mission.


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@The Blizzard Prince: Exactly this! All the Inners crying made them less like individuals. I like your suggestions, a shocked Mercury, tough love Mars, angry Jupiter, and Venus is the only one who cries.

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My problem with the crying is their reactions were too similar. Like I could buy Venus crying because she was the most in-tune to her past memories. But I think the others should have had more diverse reactions. Like Mercury could be in shock, still trying to process everything. Jupiter could be angry, wanting to avenge them. And Mars could have been the one to deliver tough love, saying that while it's sad they can't afford to let it distract them from their mission.

If I were them, I would made 3 movies for season I, and the last movies would contain act 11 - 12 - 13 - 14. The transformations at the end of act 11 would be cut out. Those 2 minutes would be for Shitennou saying their bad words or last words to their lovers, and turned into the stones, "teleported" to their Master's place. Mercury would be the one crying the most, and Jupiter would comfort her. Mars would just stand there, with her hair bang hiding her eyes. Venus was crying to, but she would say "Everyone, let's go. We have to rescure our princess."

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^ I chortled after reading that last reason xD


your welcome :lol: :lol: but it was true Crystal Chiba was creepy to me (didnt help he wore a Tuxedo in the middle of the day for no reason) just for the fact he was able to bed Usagi In Just 5 or 6 Episodes The Usagi I Know and Love isn't that easy shes tough, sexy and wouldn't sleep with a guy simply because of their past lives.

just because they were lovers in the past isn't a good enough excuse for me and the fact she went into his house without even really knowing him didn't sit well with me either its like jumping into some strangers car because he offered you candy anyway to get on topic the whole series is bad in my eyes if the humor was left in and Chiba didn't have a creeper feeling to him I'd have probably really enjoyed it (minus Sen x Shi XD)

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