Utena - Sailor Moon parallels and influences of Sailor Moon in Utena

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#41
No, Ikuhara was the one who made Rei into “90’s anime Rei” to begin with, he literally considered her his ideal waifu.

And you’ve got that backwards, it was Naoko who shipped Chibi-Usa/Hotaru, Ikuhara didn’t ship them at all, as evidenced by getting rid of all their romantic subtext and turning them into just close friends in the 90’s anime. ChibiTaru isn’t a thing at all in the 90’s anime whereas it is in the Manga/Crystal.
So the SM manga references is Saito's fault.

Anime Rei is his creation with Sato, I think Chiho is the one who is fond of the manga of SM in the first place.

Saito has similar ideas with Takeuchi...which I think is why he picked her in the first place.
 

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I think Chiho is the one who is fond of the manga of SM in the first place.

Saito has similar ideas with Takeuchi...which I think is why he picked her in the first place.
What makes you think so?
 
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#44
I think Ikuhara could have picked CLAMP for Utena instead of Saito if he wanted someone in the same head space as him.
 

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#45
The manga of Utena has parallels with the Sailor Moon manga itself.
It's been years since I read Utena's manga, but when I read the SM one I didn't see the similarities.
 
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#46
It's been years since I read Utena's manga, but when I read the SM one I didn't see the similarities.
Anthy and Manga! Rei are similar, I think that is from Saito.
 
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#47
I think if Ikuhara or Igarashi got their way in Stars, I think both Rei's politician dad and Mr. Ibuki would both end up as Phages in Stars anyway, Sailor Politician, anyone?
 
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#48
Most of this is Copy pasted from 90s 2023 rewatch thread. Many of these were me just me joking though.
[Pink haired child in coffin like thing]
  • Well at least there aren't any blue haired guys in a blue and white suit being forced across a room that one specific time. Oh wait.
  • Well at least there isn't some older brother prince rapist guy going around trying to assault a minor. Oh wait.
  • Well at least there aren't any vain comic relief female characters with iconic laughter that turns into some creature after receiving some stylish supposed "gift". Oh wait.
  • "Well at least there isn't a female character with a troubled romantic past who's suddenly shown to have history with a blue haired character that winds up dea-"
  • [Boxing Kangaroos]
 
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Most of this is Copy pasted from 90s 2023 rewatch thread. Many of these were me just me joking though.
[Pink haired child in coffin like thing]
  • Well at least there aren't any blue haired guys in a blue and white suit being forced across a room that one specific time. Oh wait.
  • Well at least there isn't some older brother prince rapist guy going around trying to assault a minor. Oh wait.
  • Well at least there aren't any vain comic relief female characters with iconic laughter that turns into some creature after receiving some stylish supposed "gift". Oh wait.
  • "Well at least there isn't a female character with a troubled romantic past who's suddenly shown to have history with a blue haired character that winds up dea-"
  • [Boxing Kangaroos]
Don’t forget all the incest in Sailor Moon - Ail/En, Demande/Saphir and Mamoru/Chibi-Usa too! (Though admittedly that last one is more from Naoko’s side of things than Ikuhara lol)
 
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I think that Sailor Galaxia and Akio have to much things in common , in their 90s anime version only.

1.They both were good persons once , Sailor Galaxia was a legendary senshi that fought against the Chaos and Akio was a prince that helped all the ladies in dimstress, but then they got corrupted and got transformed into villains.

2.They both separated themselves into two entities when they got corrupted , Galaxia fred her star seed from her and created chibi chibi , which I consider that was the good side from her ,just as Akio had her good side , the Prince Dios , resguardeated in the floating castle.

2.5. There is a theory that says that Chu Chu was also a separated part of Akio , his name is even similar to Chibi Chibi , if that theory is true , it could add even more similarities, since they both are characters that only say their names .

3.The good alter egos of the villains help the main protagonts , just as Chibi Chibi helped Sailor moon , the prince Dios also helped Utena various times by descending from the castle in order to give to Utena the power to give her final strike .

4.They both had an altered backstory , Kakkyu thought that an legendary senshi sealed the Chaos away a long time ago without doing anything bad, she didn’t knew that the legend of the sailor war was altered , and that the legendary senshi wasn’t that good and holy heroine that the legend claimed her to be , that reminded me to Akio when he showed to Utena and anthy , and altered backstory of him , he portrayed himself as an hero that everybody loves , and Anthy as a jealous witch that wanted him to herself , Akio deleted the part of the story where Anthy tried to save him just as in the legend of the sailor war it was deleted the part where Galaxia sealed the Chaos inside her body , even though I don’t know if it was Galaxia itself who altered her backstory or it was the pass of the time ,since we didn’t had too much details about how that legend got to be known by Kakkyu , but I think that it is still a similar aspect to Akio.



Well , that’s all , I wanted to share this cause I really think that this characters share to much similarities in their villain story , and I had never saw someone comparing Galaxia with Akio ,well have a nice day bye .

PS, Off topic but I also compare Touga with Angel Dust from hazbin hotel , just saying because kasumigenx watched that series .
 
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#58
I never thought of those parallelisms. It could be a villain trope of the time.
 
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PS, Off topic but I also compare Touga with Angel Dust from hazbin hotel , just saying because kasumigenx watched that series .
Galaxia is like Akio, but Galaxia was returned to normal, if there is a character similar to Galaxia, it is Akito from Fruits Basket and Towa from Princess Precure.

I did not watch Angel/Dust but I do have its merchandise.