A Disheartening Realization

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Nov 9, 2016
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For the purpose of some of my fanfiction endeavors, I've lately been struggling to recall what drew me to Sailor Moon in the first place. But what I think I've come to realize is... I'm not actually much of a fan at all.

I don't really care much for or resonate with any of the characters except for Hotaru. When they're killed off or in peril or otherwise face negativity in their lives, I don't really shed much tears, I'm more less just like, "Oh wow, that sucks..." And what little investment I did have for any given character I think just mostly came down to head-canon. So if not the characters, then what is it about Sailor Moon that always interested me?

I know at least part of it has to do with the show involving a lot of fighting, which will obviously appeal to the male viewers. But that was never really anything new, nor has fighting and violence ever been strictly a "guy's domain." So to try and really hammer this out, I started quietly watching shows that I felt are similar, particularly Winx Club. Although I tend to watch with the volume dialed down, otherwise pieces of the voice acting and soundtrack make me feel uncomfortable for some reason. That said, I think I finally know what makes me, at the very least, morbidly curious.

The answer is: the girls are pretty and attractive. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Although, I can't really fully explain that either, as it's not really a sexual attraction, in fact that's barely the case (although their revealing casual outfits don't exactly help my case...) Still, this realization is a tad depressing, to be honest. I know that people enjoy the Sailor Moon franchise to death, and that there's a lot for people to see, but... I dunno, I just don't see it. Especially now. After my experimental exposure to Winx, I'm now trying to watch Sailor Moon from the beginning, and... I honestly can't for the life of me find the appeal for me anymore! It's such a strange feeling, like I've been unplugged from the Matrix or something.

I guess I shouldn't be entirely surprised. As long as I've known, I've always seen things different from other people. But it's not like there aren't shows that I do have a genuine investment in, with characters I care about, situations that make me want to stay glued to the screen/monitor and binge-watch the entire series. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how and why it was THIS series that ended up eating such a big chunk of my life... Maybe because it was new at the time and hadn't really been seen before?

I'd ask what is YOUR interest in Sailor Moon, but I'm sure there's plenty of threads about that on this forum already.
 

YuYu Yuichiro

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I'd ask what is YOUR interest in Sailor Moon, but I'm sure there's plenty of threads about that on this forum already.
*I've only really watched the 90s anime's ViZ & DiC dubs

1. The world seemed comforting.

2.I like all the characters [except maybe Shingo]. Their dynamics especially interested me.

3. The sense of humor of the show [and somewhat the fandom] was usually PERFECT for me.

4. The show never felt too overly violent for me.

5. The art & music [The music is a LARGE part of it]

6. The cheesiness [I like cheesiness]

7. The show is one of my inspirations for shows I want to make.

8. The variety of scenarios. [different dubs also help w/ that.]

9. The fandom seemed mostly chill & respectful for what I've seen, especially compared to other shows [fandoms don't really affect my opinion of a show but they help me feel more connected and see multiple perspectives]

10. May add more..
 
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the passion of the fandom. I was at the Star Wars convention back in May and saw two different Sailor moon/Jedi cosplayers.

I was showing my cousin's husband's mom my book from the trip and pointed out the Jedi Sailor Moon cosplay and she know who sailor moon was, so going into the next one, is the age range of the fandom. I love seeing older people being active in fandoms and enjoying things like Sailor Moon.
 
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*I've only really watched the 90s anime's ViZ & DiC dubs

1. The world seemed comforting.

2.I like all the characters [except maybe Shingo]. Their dynamics especially interested me.

3. The sense of humor of the show [and somewhat the fandom] was usually PERFECT for me.

4. The show never felt too overly violent for me.

5. The art & music [The music is a LARGE part of it]

6. The cheesiness [I like cheesiness]

7. The show is one of my inspirations for shows I want to make.

8. The variety of scenarios. [different dubs also help w/ that.]

9. The fandom seemed mostly chill & respectful for what I've seen, especially compared to other shows [fandoms don't really affect my opinion of a show but they help me feel more connected and see multiple perspectives]

10. May add more..
Yeah, I really wish I could identify with most of these...

There is definitely something about the world itself and the general story format that appeals to me. The slice-of-life format to me was representative of what is an ideal environment to live in, unlike my actual life, which (to be as direct as possible) was as much of a living hell as I could imagine other than starving in some third-world country. Hanging out with friends, doing fun things for no other reason than to have fun and enjoy life... and occasionally fighting bad guys. But then again, that's pretty much what Power Rangers was about as well. Either way, it's hard to really even want to try to chase that in real life when the overwhelming majority of people around you are some of the most godawful human beings imaginable.

Maybe that's actually my disconnect with shows like these: how evil is generally represented. These stories about magical bad guys following this diabolical plot to take over the world don't really phase me when I see far more evil in real life, such as people who murder and carve people up, torture animals to death, or even drive people to suicide, all for laughs. Hell, real world leaders throughout our history have done and continue to do things that are FAR more horrifying than what these fictional baddies are always plotting around about... Lol, like this race for the all-powerful artifact that would spell the end of the world if it fell into the wrong hands. I'm like, "Bruh. The human race collectively has an arsenal big enough to destroy this whole planet 20 TIMES OVER. Putin could end humanity TOMORROW if he wanted."

That could also be why I fail to really have any sort of emotional attachment with these characters: I'm just too desensitized by real life to really find their predicaments all that problematic, especially with regards to whole theme of Love. Like Lita/Makoto's issues of people being afraid of her, and wanting to find and keep a boyfriend, only to be dumped repeatedly and always getting down in the dumps over it. I'm just like, "GIRL, I would trade places with you in a heartbeat for THOSE to be my biggest issues in life!"

So I guess, part of what draws me to Sailor Moon is also the same thing that turns me away. It represents a state of the world that I want to believe exists, but I just don't...

Sorry if this ended up turning into a rant. Probably not the best look, but I guess it needs to be said.
 
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If you don't like the series that is fine. So long as you respect it for what it is and don't want to infiltrate and change it into something it is not. There is a big difference between being a non fan vs. a anti fan. The former is fine but the latter is toxic and should be gatekept out at all costs.
 
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If you don't like the series that is fine. So long as you respect it for what it is and don't want to infiltrate and change it into something it is not. There is a big difference between being a non fan vs. a anti fan. The former is fine but the latter is toxic and should be gatekept out at all costs.
I do like it, and always have. I just could never understand WHY I do. To your point, though, a lot of my fiction projects revolve around themes that are so far detached from what the series is objectively all about, that I'm wondering if I'm better off just developing an all new IP and telling a unique story in that fashion. Though I don't think I have the skill set for that, and certainly not something worth spending months or years learning just for hobby projects. It'd have to be a career move of some kind for me to bother.

UPDATE(s): Upon further reflecting, I remember I really did start to get MUCH more invested in the series once Season 3 dropped and introduced the Death Busters, whom I thought were a hilarious change of pace from the previous two villain groups. First we had what I personally consider to be your fairly run-of-the-mill regal/medieval noble house-type organizations, and suddenly we have this kooky cackling mad scientist up to goofy shenanigans like brewing the ultimate coffee (or something, I can't keep the subs and dubs straight, but it's always funny to me) or ordering pizza and being all like "Mwahaha! Pizza!" OH, and all the while just casually growing B.O.W.-type monsters that are each capable of SOLOING all five Inners at their current peak. I'm just like, "Damn, all those power-ups and everything they've overcome these last two seasons just to get ragdolled by this new organization's basic jobber monsters. O_o" Speaking of which, there's at least a handful of MotD's that earn a place in my top favorite list, albeit for uhm... reasons. :quagmire:XD

So, I guess, whatever it was about Sailor Moon that I originally came for, it's definitely the Death Busters that I stay for.
 
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Well the Death Busters are my favorite villain group as well Karasu so I can understand that. That being said if you like the series but want to do something kind of original and different that is fine too. Naoko Takeuchi herself added alot of different story ideas to her series from fantasy, horror, sci fi etc. In fact Sailor Moon itself was a spin off of Sailor V.

So again you can do a fresh even original take on the series and still like it and respect the series, characters and source material.
 
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Maybe what you like it's the surrealistic contrast of the series? The cheesiness? Maybe I'm wrong but I feel you find yourself comfortable when the series wasn't taking itself seriously? Those sort of mechanisms tend to be good escapism and enrich your imagination.

Also, I'm gonna give you a piece of advice: If you have an inner world you want to express, go for it. Even as a hobby. Don't repress it. Have a normal life as much as you can and build your fantasy castles whenever you're free or want to channel your feelings.

I feel you're very emotional.
 
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Maybe what you like it's the surrealistic contrast of the series? The cheesiness? Maybe I'm wrong but I feel you find yourself comfortable when the series wasn't taking itself seriously? Those sort of mechanisms tend to be good escapism and enrich your imagination.

Also, I'm gonna give you a piece of advice: If you have an inner world you want to express, go for it. Even as a hobby. Don't repress it. Have a normal life as much as you can and build your fantasy castles whenever you're free or want to channel your feelings.

I feel you're very emotional.
Are you talking about the Death Busters or the series as a whole? For the Death Busters, like I said, it's definitely the near-180 contrast in tone and aesthetic. I think I liked the Clover dub the best, where the ham is at its absolute peak. Though, it all hits much better when you actually have the other villain groups to compare.

However, I still struggle what actually got me into Sailor Moon in the first place. This was even before Toonami, so it was just the first two seasons. I'm fairly set in the theory that I was simply attracted to the pretty art style (which in retrospect was fairly new to the West at the time). I don't really consider that personally enough to call myself a fan, considering there are shows that I get genuinely invested in and actually feel connections with the characters.

But then again, is it really a requirement really? Maybe it depends on the work. Hell, one of my favorite movies of all time are the Cranked movies, which are about as mindless as a movie could get: just Jason Statham running around beating the crap out of people and then hurrying as fast as he can to the next person to beat up. LMAO And then the visuals, the soundtrack, etc., all just amplify the already total insanity to 11. Of course, I'm pretty sure this was the intention of the movie: to be mindless and goofy, and not take itself seriously.

On the flipside there's my probably second-favorite movie series: Expendables, which, while still mostly gratuitous violence, there's still an underlying theme that hooks me: feeling dead inside, wrestling with your demons, whether or not to accept who you are (even if who you are is an absolute monster). This scene always makes me teary-eyed:

Perhaps this series was always simply a welcome contrast to what is my typical norm. The sugar that complements the salt, so to speak. There's also the obvious nostaglia factor. A connection to the few positive pieces of my childhood. I should probably look into what Naoko's original intentions were.