Do you think the manga took the other senshi more like "servants" than "friends"?

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In the manga, Naoko also gave Usagi a possibility of giving up Mamoru and her life in the earth after giving birth to Chibiusa since she gets the Cosmos Seed.
Even Mamoru was more like a wish fulfillment in many occasion despite some ok part.

Dude keep getting abducted/brainwashed/forced to kiss others really damaged his character.
 

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Even Mamoru was more like a wish fulfillment in many occasion despite some ok part.

Dude keep getting abducted/brainwashed/forced to kiss others really damaged his character.
Yes, but my point is that Usagi is the one that Takeuchi gives the most agency compared to the other Senshi including Kakyuu and Chibiusa.
 
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And it works beautifully, IMO. Can you imagine how dull it would be to have manga Rei's personality in the trio for more than ten episodes?
The anime would have been boring for kids to watch. The viewership would have declined even more before Nephrite's death, and Sailor Mars' merch would have been gathering dust.

Manga!Rei fans know that, even though they will never shout it to all and sundry, you know... Manga!Rei has to be the best version ever!!
 

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Yeah that's the main problem, nearly everything was for her. All the well written characters were for her(like Demande and Galaxia).
Indeed.

The anime would have been boring for kids to watch. The viewership would have declined even more before Nephrite's death, and Sailor Mars' merch would have been gathering dust.

Manga!Rei fans know that, even though they will never shout it to all and sundry, you know... Manga!Rei has to be the best version ever!!
Other mangakas who were inspired by SM are able to write and draw characters inspired by Anime Rei, why won't Naoko incorporate Anime Rei's personality to the manga Rei.
 

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The anime would have been boring for kids to watch. The viewership would have declined even more before Nephrite's death, and Sailor Mars' merch would have been gathering dust.

Manga!Rei fans know that, even though they will never shout it to all and sundry, you know... Manga!Rei has to be the best version ever!!
The anime also gave the four kings a lot of development. Nephrite was great even compare to Naoko's design in the side material(PGSM followed that and it was meh)
 
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I'll say that I can see why people prefer some manga versions or well, the idea of their manga versions. Ambitious, energetic, bossy Rei, who I like, could be annoying to others. They might prefer the idea of the stoic, dutiful shrine maiden whose shell is only broken by Minako and Usagi. It's just, as has been stated, the manga doesn't give most characters enough time to shine for these ideas to develop. Thus they remain ideas.

Now, I will say there are some manga versions that are baffling that people prefer. Like manga Michiru? Did she even have a personality? She was a character that was 110% improved in the anime imo.
 

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I'll say that I can see why people prefer some manga versions or well, the idea of their manga versions. Ambitious, energetic, bossy Rei, who I like, could be annoying to others. They might prefer the idea of the stoic, dutiful shrine maiden whose shell is only broken by Minako and Usagi. It's just, as has been stated, the manga doesn't give most characters enough time to shine for these ideas to develop. Thus they remain ideas.

Now, I will say there are some manga versions that are baffling that people prefer. Like manga Michiru? Did she even have a personality? She was a character that was 110% improved in the anime imo.
yeah anime Rei got flaws, but she also has nice heart and bravery, her bond with Usagi was so strong. She got her own romance story and family relationship. That makes her a strong character.

As for Michiru, I think she did have some goofy plot in the manga like Cosmos, but it was never extended into the main plot. The 90s anime made her a bit too arrogant and lack of plot without Haruka, but still improvement.

But she got a lot of space to have further development, they just left her there being the same "cool and overly self confident" character, I don't like it.

A big problem of Michiru in both versions is that such a beautiful woman got nearly 0 admirers other than Haruka. Even in the anime she was into Haruka first.
 
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Haruka had a development caused by Michiru's influence. In the 90's, the latter was stronger, full of determination, she was the real boss of the two. Although Haruka could come across as the brave one, tough and powerful, she had a weakness that was Michiru in all her life sides. Michiru could get through several harsh experiences alone, but Haruka couldn't. Not without the Queen of Seas at her side.
 

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Haruka had a development caused by Michiru's influence. In the 90's, the latter was stronger, full of determination, she was the real boss of the two. Although Haruka could come across as the brave one, tough and powerful, she had a weakness that was Michiru in all her life sides. Michiru could get through several harsh experiences alone, but Haruka couldn't. Not without the Queen of Seas at her side.
Yes but it's Haruka's development. Michiru served more like Haruka's lover most of the time.

Haruka got more focus, more interaction, more admirers and more development, she is way more like the center of the two. Michiru got personality but lack of development and independent plot. And her character was far from complete.
 

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Yes but it's Haruka's development. Michiru served more like Haruka's lover most of the time.

Haruka got more focus, more interaction, more admirers and more development, she is way more like the center of the two. Michiru got personality but lack of development and independent plot. And her character was far from complete.
I agree. But Haruka could not have such development without Michiru. My point is that you can't judge Haruka's character in its own and viceversa.

In the manga/crapstal Michiru has the personality of a bucket and Haruka is just ...... ummmm..... say.... she behaves like a wannabe prince. It's so hard to describe them as characters in those versions because they're not characters at all.

In the 90's Michiru gets angry at Haruka every time she flirts with another girl. In the untouchable Bible original version and its adaptation Michiru is fine with that situation???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? :ninja:
 

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I agree. But Haruka could not have such development without Michiru. My point is that you can't judge Haruka's character in its own and viceversa.

In the manga/crapstal Michiru has the personality of a bucket and Haruka is just ...... ummmm..... say.... she behaves like a wannabe prince. It's so hard to describe them as characters in those versions because they're not characters at all.

In the 90's Michiru gets angry at Haruka every time she flirts with another girl. In the untouchable Bible original version and its adaptation Michiru is fine with that situation???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? :ninja:
But I want Michiru to shine as a character, even without Haruka.

The anime gave her personality but also shackled her development with Haruka, she is going nowhere without being independent and some new character get into her plot. I don't dislike Haruka at all, I just wish Michiru to be more than her couple.

Even the manga got some funny moments for Michiru like the beginning of Cosmos, where she was getting more attention.

I do agree that the anime did a better job on her but that's far from enough. And the anime made them overly confident without progress since fans like it that way.
 

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I would argue that, on the contrary, Michiru receives tremendous development in the 90s anime just that... it happens before S.

A major part of her development is featured in #106.
While at first glance it majorly focuses on Haruka, it's also a lot about Michiru.
As we discover, Michiru is regarded as the perfect Japanese girl - feminine, classy, polite and artistic.
However, she is in fact a very solitary girl with people regularly making comments on how she hates people.
On the cruise ship, she performs a very sad and foreboding music and even paints a giant piece depicting the end of the world.

While her mindset definitely went gloomy after she awoke by her own as a Senshi and she started to have premonitions of the world ending, it's safe to presume even before that she was lonely and wasn't much interested in dealing with people.
However, once she falls in love with Haruka, she finds an anchor in that and even more so when she discovers that Haruka is her destined mate, she sees a glimmer of hope.

We also see that before Haruka reciprocated her feelings, she was far away from the confidant girl she is in S - when she first meets Haruka (whom she's been in love for so long), her whole body shakes and she can't find her words, on the cruise ship she is visibly affected by the comments of the passengers badmouthing her and later when Haruka and her discuss in private, she dances around the subject of her feelings commenting there's a supposed girl at her school who wants to go on a drive with Haruka.

When Haruka rejects her, Haruka breaks her heart as well as her soul.
Haruka: If someone has got to do it, then just go and do it by yourself! I'd like you to stop putting your nose into my business!
Michiru: Don't say such selfish things... I, too, don't want to do it. Even I, I have a dream of becoming a violinist... I can't keep doing something as rubbishly stupid as saving the world from devastation!!!

It's at this point that Michiru gives up on both her love for Haruka and as well as having a normal life and as we see in their next encounter, Michiru paints herself as a cold-blooded monster ready to do whatever it takes to do her mission.

Her development and characterization are largely reflected into her songs of S,
Ai Dake - which depicts her feelings of when she fell in love with Haruka and how that brought her solace in her dark life.


The loneliness that is being lit upon inside my heart is,
The foreboding of a budding love,
This feeling that can barely wait for tomorrow,
Adds up to one another of my secrets,
Whenever we feel love towards someone,
It conjures up a mysterious strength,
Whispering your name that I still don't know,
Is my incantation that I'll forever protect you know,

The passions of my heart are even now still having dreams,
There's some things that only love can do,
Thus was the premonition I felt.

I'm sure there will be a tomorrow where we'll look at each other with a passionate gaze,
May you guide me without fail and from then will a strength be born.

Since forever, they have been whispering to me,
The ghosts of my heart,
There's still something that love aims to do,
The future is opening forward!

Even now, the passions of my heart are having dreams,
There's something that only love can do,
That is my prophecy!

Unmei wa Utsukushiku (Destiny is Beautiful), depicting that if Haruka returns her feelings, then Michiru will be able to fight whatever destiny throws at her.
It's basically a confession song of Michiru to Haruka and in turn a companion piece to Ogata's Shiokaze ni Nosete.


When I first saw you, at that time,
That nostalgic smile of yours felt like the scent of the wind,
Called upon by a mysterious force,
I immediately realized that's how I got to meet you,

Beneath this vast sky, I was forever searching for those passionate eyes of yours,
This destiny of mine is oh so beautiful,
For it's making my tears shine (she cried tears of joy when she realized she was in love with her soul mate~)
Whatever memories might shackle me down,
I felt like I would now never look back.

The fingertip that you held out to me,
Is slowly being dyed into a deep color of darkness,
Even if that faraway dream of mine of waking up in a cold storm may one day come true,
Believing into everything I've chosen, will give me the power to change tomorrow won't it? (So, loving Haruka is her greatest strength)

This destiny of mine is oh so heartwarming,
For it's making my skin shine,
Whatever sadness may close in on to me,
If you're by my side, I won't ever be hurt again.

This destiny of mine is oh so beautiful,
For it's making my tears shine!
Whatever sadness may close in on to me,
If you're by my side, I won't ever be hurt again,
If you're with me,
If you're with me...

And we do see this is a constant in Stars when Michiru several times, proclaims Haruka as her rock.
Especially in her death scene.
Michiru: If you're with me, I can even endure being burnt in hell.
Haruka: Hell? It doesn't suit you, you know.
Michiru: I don't regret it. (Has so much meaning after Unmei wa Ustukushiku)

Michiru's character is pretty much complete once Haruka returns her love - she is no more lonely, doesn't care about what others think (in Stars, we see she has become more and more social and makes jokes and flirts openly with Haruka), even her music has changed (again as we see with her joint performance with the Three Lights) - also, she didn't give up on her violinist dream! and for the whole of S, she isn't affected by the weight of her premonitions as she previously was.

At several intervals, she asks Haruka to join hands with the girls with the latter refusing because Haruka refuses to force this burden on others.
While Haruka, who appears so strong on the outside, is deeply traumatized by their destiny and depresses over having to sully her hands,
Michiru, on the other hand who appears so refine on the outside, is much more stronger than her because of Haruka.

Michiru's only weakness is Haruka.
While Haruka is ready to sacrifice any innocent for the greater good, Michiru is ready to sacrifice the greater good for Haruka.
Michiru has demonstrated that she'll readily sacrifice herself or the world if it means Haruka is saved, afterall her whole world is Haruka.
They are really like fire and water.

After the Grail appears, she doesn't have much stuff to do but is complementary to Haruka and proves that she knows her better than anyone else.
#118, 'You know, Setsuna-san, Haruka here believes in Sailor Moon more than any of us.'

Sure, it would have been cool if she had a focus episode but that's pretty much the SuperS special?

In hindsight, she is like a Manga!Mamoru done right.

In the manga, however, I'll never understand why people love that ONE scene of Stars so much.
It's just so OOC for me.
I much better prefer her in Dreams/Eternal getting flustered over Hotaru breaking her expensive china - Michiru being a rich and artiste girl, it'd make sense that she has some expensive stuff at her manor and breaking them is well, disastrous!

In Stars, though, she being triggered over lipstick?!!?
I think that Takeuchi mentioned in the data books that Michiru collects cosmetics (but who cares we NEVER see that in the manga), still isn't she supposed to be super mature and etc.
Takeuchi just turns Michiru for that one panel into the standard vain Ojou-sama character that every shoujo manga has and like always Takeuchi's jokes suck.

If it was 90s Michiru, she'd be unfazed and probably comment something like, 'Ara, ara. The young boys of today sure have a tasteful fashion of having a broomstick glued with duck tape on their head desuwa ne ~'. (smacks lips)
 

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I would argue that, on the contrary, Michiru receives tremendous development in the 90s anime just that... it happens before S.

A major part of her development is featured in #106.
While at first glance it majorly focuses on Haruka, it's also a lot about Michiru.
As we discover, Michiru is regarded as the perfect Japanese girl - feminine, classy, polite and artistic.
However, she is in fact a very solitary girl with people regularly making comments on how she hates people.
On the cruise ship, she performs a very sad and foreboding music and even paints a giant piece depicting the end of the world.

While her mindset definitely went gloomy after she awoke by her own as a Senshi and she started to have premonitions of the world ending, it's safe to presume even before that she was lonely and wasn't much interested in dealing with people.
However, once she falls in love with Haruka, she finds an anchor in that and even more so when she discovers that Haruka is her destined mate, she sees a glimmer of hope.

We also see that before Haruka reciprocated her feelings, she was far away from the confidant girl she is in S - when she first meets Haruka (whom she's been in love for so long), her whole body shakes and she can't find her words, on the cruise ship she is visibly affected by the comments of the passengers badmouthing her and later when Haruka and her discuss in private, she dances around the subject of her feelings commenting there's a supposed girl at her school who wants to go on a drive with Haruka.

When Haruka rejects her, Haruka breaks her heart as well as her soul.
Haruka: If someone has got to do it, then just go and do it by yourself! I'd like you to stop putting your nose into my business!
Michiru: Don't say such selfish things... I, too, don't want to do it. Even I, I have a dream of becoming a violinist... I can't keep doing something as rubbishly stupid as saving the world from devastation!!!

It's at this point that Michiru gives up on both her love for Haruka and as well as having a normal life and as we see in their next encounter, Michiru paints herself as a cold-blooded monster ready to do whatever it takes to do her mission.

Her development and characterization are largely reflected into her songs of S,
Ai Dake - which depicts her feelings of when she fell in love with Haruka and how that brought her solace in her dark life.


The loneliness that is being lit upon inside my heart is,
The foreboding of a budding love,
This feeling that can barely wait for tomorrow,
Adds up to one another of my secrets,
Whenever we feel love towards someone,
It conjures up a mysterious strength,
Whispering your name that I still don't know,
Is my incantation that I'll forever protect you know,

The passions of my heart are even now still having dreams,
There's some things that only love can do,
Thus was the premonition I felt.

I'm sure there will be a tomorrow where we'll look at each other with a passionate gaze,
May you guide me without fail and from then will a strength be born.

Since forever, they have been whispering to me,
The ghosts of my heart,
There's still something that love aims to do,
The future is opening forward!

Even now, the passions of my heart are having dreams,
There's something that only love can do,
That is my prophecy!

Unmei wa Utsukushiku (Destiny is Beautiful), depicting that if Haruka returns her feelings, then Michiru will be able to fight whatever destiny throws at her.
It's basically a confession song of Michiru to Haruka and in turn a companion piece to Ogata's Shiokaze ni Nosete.


When I first saw you, at that time,
That nostalgic smile of yours felt like the scent of the wind,
Called upon by a mysterious force,
I immediately realized that's how I got to meet you,

Beneath this vast sky, I was forever searching for those passionate eyes of yours,
This destiny of mine is oh so beautiful,
For it's making my tears shine (she cried tears of joy when she realized she was in love with her soul mate~)
Whatever memories might shackle me down,
I felt like I would now never look back.

The fingertip that you held out to me,
Is slowly being dyed into a deep color of darkness,
Even if that faraway dream of mine of waking up in a cold storm may one day come true,
Believing into everything I've chosen, will give me the power to change tomorrow won't it? (So, loving Haruka is her greatest strength)

This destiny of mine is oh so heartwarming,
For it's making my skin shine,
Whatever sadness may close in on to me,
If you're by my side, I won't ever be hurt again.

This destiny of mine is oh so beautiful,
For it's making my tears shine!
Whatever sadness may close in on to me,
If you're by my side, I won't ever be hurt again,
If you're with me,
If you're with me...

And we do see this is a constant in Stars when Michiru several times, proclaims Haruka as her rock.
Especially in her death scene.
Michiru: If you're with me, I can even endure being burnt in hell.
Haruka: Hell? It doesn't suit you, you know.
Michiru: I don't regret it. (Has so much meaning after Unmei wa Ustukushiku)

Michiru's character is pretty much complete once Haruka returns her love - she is no more lonely, doesn't care about what others think (in Stars, we see she has become more and more social and makes jokes and flirts openly with Haruka), even her music has changed (again as we see with her joint performance with the Three Lights) - also, she didn't give up on her violinist dream! and for the whole of S, she isn't affected by the weight of her premonitions as she previously was.

At several intervals, she asks Haruka to join hands with the girls with the latter refusing because Haruka refuses to force this burden on others.
While Haruka, who appears so strong on the outside, is deeply traumatized by their destiny and depresses over having to sully her hands,
Michiru, on the other hand who appears so refine on the outside, is much more stronger than her because of Haruka.

Michiru's only weakness is Haruka.
While Haruka is ready to sacrifice any innocent for the greater good, Michiru is ready to sacrifice the greater good for Haruka.
Michiru has demonstrated that she'll readily sacrifice herself or the world if it means Haruka is saved, afterall her whole world is Haruka.
They are really like fire and water.

After the Grail appears, she doesn't have much stuff to do but is complementary to Haruka and proves that she knows her better than anyone else.
#118, 'You know, Setsuna-san, Haruka here believes in Sailor Moon more than any of us.'

Sure, it would have been cool if she had a focus episode but that's pretty much the SuperS special?

In hindsight, she is like a Manga!Mamoru done right.

In the manga, however, I'll never understand why people love that ONE scene of Stars so much.
It's just so OOC for me.
I much better prefer her in Dreams/Eternal getting flustered over Hotaru breaking her expensive china - Michiru being a rich and artiste girl, it'd make sense that she has some expensive stuff at her manor and breaking them is well, disastrous!

In Stars, though, she being triggered over lipstick?!!?
I think that Takeuchi mentioned in the data books that Michiru collects cosmetics (but who cares we NEVER see that in the manga), still isn't she supposed to be super mature and etc.
Takeuchi just turns Michiru for that one panel into the standard vain Ojou-sama character that every shoujo manga has and like always Takeuchi's jokes suck.

If it was 90s Michiru, she'd be unfazed and probably comment something like, 'Ara, ara. The young boys of today sure have a tasteful fashion of having a broomstick glued with duck tape on their head desuwa ne ~'. (smacks lips)
Well a lot of it was just assumption and I would disagree.

Why would she feel alone? The world might end so shouldn't she try to let more ppl feel her light.

We saw Usagi and Minako work alone as well, they didn't feel alone, but they spread their light and confidence to affect others. That is the way to go against evil and despair.

Michiru obviously got a very rich background, why didn't she get love and support from others? Why did she distrust others but Haruka?

I mean, these all need background and explanation. These needs to get resolved as well.

Just "the world is going to end" isn't enough to justify it!

Also with Haruka she was not complete at all.

We saw her and Haruka being very arrogant, distrust on others, not knowing winning against evil doesn't work that way. This almost caused their death.

Haruka said no, but she was wrong, Michiru has the duty to change it. That's what lovers do, not blindly follow them. It's not right to do whatever your lover said, but correct them. They keep fail because of that, they thought "we are the only ones know it well and could do it right", that's NOT the case.

When Haruka was in danger, she simply lost her mind just like Haruka did, she went through the traps rather than using her attacl against Eudial.

Just look at how the Inners do when each others are in danger, they don't lose their mind like Michiru did during that trap. Even Usagi was able to stand up to fight brainwashed Mamoru.

They made the same mistake in STARS again, overly confident, thought "we were the only ones who could do it right" and it failed miserably.

I don't see that as real healthy love or real mature behavior. As a couple they were too close and not being able to correct each others' mistake. They both lose their mind when each other is in danger.

Especially as someone like Michiru, she deserves much more development through the story, well no.

Mature and strong love is to keep rational and grab her out rather than go completely nuts. And it's important to get that help from the others are important, especially to a senshi. This is what I wish to see from Michiru.
 

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Well a lot of it was just assumption and I would disagree.

Why would she feel alone? The world might end so shouldn't she try to let more ppl feel her light.
Both Usagi and Minako had Luna or Artemis to guide them.

Also, none of the 2 were being afflicted with premonitory dreams of the world ending.
Even Rei, who has quite a lot of experience under her belt was visibly traumatized by her visions and never talked about them to the girls, the girls who were Senshi just like her.

To whom would Michiru go confide in? She had no one.

Michiru obviously got a very rich background, why didn't she get love and support from others? Why did she distrust others but Haruka?
Because she was a rich, beautiful and talented girl?

We see the same thing with Ami who is likewise a super intelligent girl.
In Japanese society, a lot of pressure is put on academically achieving kids and as well as kids from well-off families.
Michiru is both.

I mean, these all need background and explanation. These needs to get resolved as well.

Just "the world is going to end" isn't enough to justify it!

Also with Haruka she was not complete at all.

We saw her and Haruka being very arrogant, distrust on others, not knowing winning against evil doesn't work that way. This almost caused their death.
I think your problem is that you expect Haruka and Michiru to join hands and fight together with the girls when simply this was never gonna happen.

They are the senpais, it's a Japanese anime. Kouhais and Senpais generally do not become one group.

Haruka said no, but she was wrong, Michiru has the duty to change it. That's what lovers do, not blindly follow them. It's not right to do whatever your lover said, but correct them. They keep fail because of that, they thought "we are the only ones know it well and could do it right", that's NOT the case.
Again, it's up to them to do it.
It's explained several times in the 90s anime, it's their destiny, it's the cross they were destined to carry.
Both of them had a very gloomy vision of their fate and at the end of S, thanks to Usagi's light, they feel they have been released from the burden of their destiny and that's why they leave the girls and depart from Tokyo to reevaluate their lives.

When Haruka was in danger, she simply lost her mind just like Haruka did, she went through the traps rather than using her attacl against Eudial.
They were fighting those tablet-like things and Michiru did use her Deep Submerge to knock a bunch of them.
Haruka got cocky and Michiru got in the way to save her and got captured... Not so different from what happened to Jupiter or Venus in the Classic finale.

When she got captured by Eudial she was trapped by vines and the sight she awakened to was Haruka at point blank of Eudial's gun.
Should she have slowly tried to get out of the vines binding her 4 limbs?

They made the same mistake in STARS again, overly confident, thought "we were the only ones who could do it right" and it failed miserably.
No, because at that time they were fighting a losing battle.
- Mamoru was DEAD.
- The Inners were DEAD.
- All 3 of them launched an all-out attack on Galaxia and didn't even scratch her.
- Galaxia broke the Space Sword barehanded!
- Galaxia broke both Pluto's rod and Saturn's Silence Glaive, thus even taboo stunts such as Pluto's Time Stop or suicide attempts such as Saturn's Silence Glaive Surprise were no more feasible in that situation.
- Sailor Moon was in a deep shock and even her all-out attack on Galaxia, back at the stadium, proved ineffective.
- Galaxia already started her assault on Tokyo and people were probably dying on the streets.

In hindsight, yes they were the only ones left to do something because Pluto & Saturn were sitting ducks without their weapons!

I don't see that as real healthy love or real mature behavior. Especially as someone like Michiru, she deserves much more development through the story, well no.
I think she's a well developed character. Both she and Haruka have flaws but they each acknowledge that about the other. I don't what further development they can have.

A love rival? It wouldn't work.
 

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Both Usagi and Minako had Luna or Artemis to guide them.

Also, none of the 2 were being afflicted with premonitory dreams of the world ending.
Even Rei, who has quite a lot of experience under her belt was visibly traumatized by her visions and never talked about them to the girls, the girls who were Senshi just like her.

To whom would Michiru go confide in? She had no one.
No, because they decided to trust on others. Usagi and Minako got ppl around them and they decided to live a happy life. They also accept others' help unlike Haruka and Michiru, this is the difference.

They experienced world ending scenes, twice, and beat it because they knew to use others' help.

Even if they got a Luna/Artemis, they would just kick the cat away, they don't even really listen to Setsuna that much.


Because she was a rich, beautiful and talented girl?

We see the same thing with Ami who is likewise a super intelligent girl.
In Japanese society, a lot of pressure is put on academically achieving kids and as well as kids from well-off families.
Michiru is both.
So what? She could easily find friends if she wants to. Ami was also open to others, just ppl don't tend to get close with her. If she was a senshi she would certainly make friends with others.

I think your problem is that you expect Haruka and Michiru to join hands and fight together with the girls when simply this was never gonna happen.

They are the senpais, it's a Japanese anime. Kouhais and Senpais generally do not become one group.
Because they don't trust others, they thought they were the most mature fighters and others would mess up, which was in truth, very immature.


Again, it's up to them to do it.
It's explained several times in the 90s anime, it's their destiny, it's the cross they were destined to carry.
Both of them had a very gloomy vision of their fate and at the end of S, thanks to Usagi's light, they feel they have been released from the burden of their destiny and that's why they leave the girls and depart from Tokyo to reevaluate their lives.
It's not their destiny, but they thought it's theirs because they were "world saving heroes who knew the right way".

When the Inners already saved the world twice and got much stronger power.

In truth it was just their bubbles, without the Inners they could do nothing.

And at first they didn't even know where the talisman was, didn't know who is the Messiah.

They were fighting those tablet-like things and Michiru did use her Deep Submerge to knock a bunch of them.
Haruka got cocky and Michiru got in the way to save her and got captured... Not so different from what happened to Jupiter or Venus in the Classic finale.

When she got captured by Eudial she was trapped by vines and the sight she awakened to was Haruka at point blank of Eudial's gun.
Should she have slowly tried to get out of the vines binding her 4 limbs?
And then both Makoto and Minako knew to use their power to kill DD girls.

What did Michiru do? She certainly wasn't in the brink of death, she could simply use her attack to take down Eudial and save Haruka, but no, she chose to recklessly charge in, get badly injuried and blocked the shot.

It was Usagi who saved Haruka.

No, because at that time they were fighting a losing battle.
- Mamoru was DEAD.
- The Inners were DEAD.
- All 3 of them launched an all-out attack on Galaxia and didn't even scratch her.
- Galaxia broke the Space Sword barehanded!
- Galaxia broke both Pluto's rod and Saturn's Silence Glaive, thus even taboo stunts such as Pluto's Time Stop or suicide attempts such as Saturn's Silence Glaive Surprise were no more feasible in that situation.
- Sailor Moon was in a deep shock and even her all-out attack on Galaxia, back at the stadium, proved ineffective.
- Galaxia already started her assault on Tokyo and people were probably dying on the streets.

In hindsight, yes they were the only ones left to do something because Pluto & Saturn were sitting ducks without their weapons!
Silver Crytal's power is still there.

Hotaru still got strong power as we saw in S without her Glaive.

Their tiny power would not work at all, and they chose to destroy Hotaru, their 2nd most powerful senshi for a trick that wasn't going to work.

Would Usagi and others do it? Not at all.

This is their problem: They thought they were the only ones who could get it done, but sadly no.

I think she's a well developed character. Both she and Haruka have flaws but they each acknowledge that about the other. I don't what further development they can have.

A love rival? It wouldn't work.
She was not, as a person, she got a lot of background to unveil. Nor did she have a wide range of her own relationship.

As a senshi she was overly confident and distrust others, which was a big no.

As a lover she blindly follow Haruka, easily lose her mind.

These all got a lot of space to write development, seriously.

Especially she could have some past to explain her behavior for not trusting others.

I get it, you like her character that way, but it doesn't mean she is complete.
 
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