If Toonmaker Sailor Moon were to be presented today......................

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sapphire91

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Most characters will change their race, some of them will be chubby, and one thing I am certain they will do is Makoto being a boy that is in transition to become a girl, and was bullied because of that. And it will turn into 13 reasons why, will end up on netflix, will go for at least 10 seasons. It will be called Astro Girl and will be liked by everyone but the initial sailor moon fanbase.
 

Slowpokeking

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Even the original Saban Moon sucks for changing character's race. The plot was ok.

If it was made today? Bah no thanks.

What I hate about Woke is that those works just act more like agenda instead of show, they just try to make a certain group symbols to like/dislike instead of making them human being first.
 

MariaTenebre

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Honestly if a Western version was made now it would most likely be a hot woke dumpster fire. Usagi would be a nonbinary, obese, he/him Muslim Lesbian in a Wheel Chair. Every male character on the show would be idiots or "misogynists" "racists" if White. All of the characters would be desexualized and maybe defeminized. The writers of the show would do pieces talking about how their version is so superior then the version created by the "internalized misogynist" Naoko Takeuchi. Usagi may not even get with Mamoru or anyone at all especially if he is a guy etc. It probably would be painted that it wasn't Beryl's fault for rebelling against the Golden Kingdom and that it was probably Mamoru's. They would make the ridiculous decontrustuon idea of Crystal Tokyo being a dystopia because they were able to ensure longevity. the Black Moon Clan would be depicted as heroic and their version of antifa etc. Haruka might be made into a guy and be portrayed as a misogynist male for being "mean" to Usagi (don't believe me just look what they did to Kaworu in Evangelion or Shun in the new Saint Seiya netflix business etc). Just over all garbage that would fail, be reviled by the actual fans of the series and adored by the woke cult and when it fails they would call all of the fans of the series "istphobes" etc. I thank The Gods Above and Below that Naoko has a more heavy hand in controling her franchise then she used to or we could see something like this happen.
 
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Honestly if a Western version was made now it would most likely be a hot woke dumpster fire. Usagi would be a nonbinary, obese, he/him Muslim Lesbian in a Wheel Chair. Every male character on the show would be idiots or "misogynists" "racists" if White. All of the characters would be desexualized and maybe defeminized. The writers of the show would do pieces talking about how their version is so superior then the version created by the "internalized misogynist" Naoko Takeuchi. Usagi may not even get with Mamoru or anyone at all especially if he is a guy etc. It probably would be painted that it wasn't Beryl's fault for rebelling against the Golden Kingdom and that it was probably Mamoru's. They would make the ridiculous decontrustuon idea of Crystal Tokyo being a dystopia because they were able to ensure longevity. the Black Moon Clan would be depicted as heroic and their version of antifa etc. Haruka might be made into a guy and be portrayed as a misogynist male for being "mean" to Usagi (don't believe me just look what they did to Kaworu in Evangelion or Shun in the new Saint Seiya netflix business etc). Just over all garbage that would fail, be reviled by the actual fans of the series and adored by the woke cult and when it fails they would call all of the fans of the series "istphobes" etc. I thank The Gods Above and Below that Naoko has a more heavy hand in controling her franchise then she used to or we could see something like this happen.
Yes, because that’s how every show is now right?

god, I think I went blind from rolling my eyes so far back
 

MariaTenebre

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Yes, because that’s how every show is now right?

god, I think I went blind from rolling my eyes so far back
Not every show is. Alot of them are though and especially the ones written by the woke cult. Honestly woke movies, comics, TV shows are pretty much the far left's version of pureflix, with as little subtlety, as cartoonish 1 dimensional characters and situations etc and with about as much puritanism.

I mean the Sailor Moon redraw challenge kind of cemented this point on what the woke cult thinks about Sailor Moon.
 

Slowpokeking

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Honestly if a Western version was made now it would most likely be a hot woke dumpster fire. Usagi would be a nonbinary, obese, he/him Muslim Lesbian in a Wheel Chair. Every male character on the show would be idiots or "misogynists" "racists" if White. All of the characters would be desexualized and maybe defeminized. The writers of the show would do pieces talking about how their version is so superior then the version created by the "internalized misogynist" Naoko Takeuchi. Usagi may not even get with Mamoru or anyone at all especially if he is a guy etc. It probably would be painted that it wasn't Beryl's fault for rebelling against the Golden Kingdom and that it was probably Mamoru's. They would make the ridiculous decontrustuon idea of Crystal Tokyo being a dystopia because they were able to ensure longevity. the Black Moon Clan would be depicted as heroic and their version of antifa etc. Haruka might be made into a guy and be portrayed as a misogynist male for being "mean" to Usagi (don't believe me just look what they did to Kaworu in Evangelion or Shun in the new Saint Seiya netflix business etc). Just over all garbage that would fail, be reviled by the actual fans of the series and adored by the woke cult and when it fails they would call all of the fans of the series "istphobes" etc. I thank The Gods Above and Below that Naoko has a more heavy hand in controling her franchise then she used to or we could see something like this happen.
And it's gonna make many character one dimension good/bad, which is the worst part.
 

MariaTenebre

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And it's gonna make many character one dimension good/bad, which is the worst part.
That is always how they are. The heroes in wokeflix are the good and virtuous "minority/woman" and the heroes in pureflix are the good and virtuous Christian man/woman etc. The villains in any given wokeflix show are your stock "alt right Nazi White Man" where as your stock villains in a pureflix show are always your stock Atheist/Feminist/non Christian etc. Basically their own respective versions of their "Devil." With as little subtlety and as one dimensional and even contradictory elements to their characters as could be expected.
 

Slowpokeking

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That is always how they are. The heroes in wokeflix are the good and virtuous "minority/woman" and the heroes in pureflix are the good and virtuous Christian man/woman etc. The villains in any given wokeflix show are your stock "alt right Nazi White Man" where as your stock villains in a pureflix show are always your stock Atheist/Feminist/non Christian etc. Basically their own respective versions of their "Devil." With as little subtlety and as one dimensional and even contradictory elements to their characters as could be expected.
That was bad, the 90s anime made the villains human(other than some non human beings) even if they are evil and not redeemed. Even Rebeus was given a last moment to show his fear as human while he was such a jerk.

It didn't demonize men, nor did it make other girls look bad to make the senshi awesome.

They basically think their hero could not have any flaw or weak points or need other's help otherwise it's "prejudice on XXX groups", which has created MANY Mary Sues.
 
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MariaTenebre

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That was bad, the 90s anime made the villains human(other than some non human beings) even if they are evil and not redeemed. Even Rebeus was given a last moment to show his fear as human while he was such a jerk.

It didn't demonize men, nor did it make other girls look bad to make the senshi awesome.

They basically think their hero could not have any flaw or weak points or need other's help otherwise it's "prejudice on XXX groups", which has created MANY Mary Sues.
Honestly SJW Mary Sues and Gary Stus that have become staple in media are little different or better then Ebony Darkness Raven Way Dementia of My Immortal. Hell I think that new YA Graphic novel of DC "I'm Not Starfire" is basically the second coming of old Ebony.
 

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Honestly SJW Mary Sues and Gary Stus that have become staple in media are little different or better then Ebony Darkness Raven Way Dementia of My Immortal. Hell I think that new YA Graphic novel of DC "I'm Not Starfire" is basically the second coming of old Ebony.
But true great female writers(at the same time feminists) gave their characters weakness at the same time made them a hero. Such as Louisa May's Jo and Jane Austin's Elizabeth.
 

MariaTenebre

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But true great female writers(at the same time feminists) gave their characters weakness at the same time made them a hero. Such as Louisa May's Jo and Jane Austin's Elizabeth.
That is because most wokeies are personality deficient insufferable people who can't write worth crap. Again I have seen fanfiction writers write better then them. Oh and for the frenchfries and malt person you know that all of the examples I listed were done by various woke programs, comics that were usually crappy readdaptions of more popular series. In fact everything I said came to pass with the Sailor Moon redraw challenge and SJWs showing their stupidity.
 

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Honestly if a Western version was made now it would most likely be a hot woke dumpster fire. Usagi would be a nonbinary, obese, he/him Muslim Lesbian in a Wheel Chair. Every male character on the show would be idiots or "misogynists" "racists" if White. All of the characters would be desexualized and maybe defeminized. The writers of the show would do pieces talking about how their version is so superior then the version created by the "internalized misogynist" Naoko Takeuchi. Usagi may not even get with Mamoru or anyone at all especially if he is a guy etc. It probably would be painted that it wasn't Beryl's fault for rebelling against the Golden Kingdom and that it was probably Mamoru's. They would make the ridiculous decontrustuon idea of Crystal Tokyo being a dystopia because they were able to ensure longevity. the Black Moon Clan would be depicted as heroic and their version of antifa etc. Haruka might be made into a guy and be portrayed as a misogynist male for being "mean" to Usagi (don't believe me just look what they did to Kaworu in Evangelion or Shun in the new Saint Seiya netflix business etc). Just over all garbage that would fail, be reviled by the actual fans of the series and adored by the woke cult and when it fails they would call all of the fans of the series "istphobes" etc. I thank The Gods Above and Below that Naoko has a more heavy hand in controling her franchise then she used to or we could see something like this happen.
the irony of this coming from a trans person.

This thread is a dumpster fire from inception to my own comment.
 
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Nadia

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..........................................would it be considered WOKE? :googly:

If not, what elements should be added in for it to be considered WOKE?
It wouldn't be considered "woke" because the fake activists have the Viz dub which changed the anime to be more progressive than it was.

the irony of this coming from a trans person.

This thread is a dumpster fire from inception to my own comment.
BURNING MAN-DAH-LA!
 

MariaTenebre

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the irony of this coming from a trans person.

This thread is a dumpster fire from inception to my own comment.
You know there are trans people out there that don't agree with the woke cult right? In fact with the left's acceptance and promotion of far left woke nonsense this has led to a decrease in acceptance for LGBT people in America etc when previously it was on the rise. Besides for me I pretty much see the same level of censoriousness, totalitarianism, puritanism and sex negativism that was found in the Southern Baptist faith I left. Which I suppose is fitting as alot of the feminists who brought about feminism in the West were sex negative White Supremacist Christian women. There were other feminist movements that preceded them. Many of them having more rational, reasonable and pro feminine goals and many of these women having to deal with rougher stuff then the privileged White Women that founded feminism in the West did. The problem with the modern woke cult is that it bases it's views more in line with your Andrea Dworkins, Catherine McKinnons and your Anita Sarkeesians vs. your Camille Paglias, Christian Hoff Sommers etc. I mean the fact that woke and radical feminism still promote this male gaze theory nonsense and see heterosexual male sexual desire for women as being this evil thing on par with how homophobic religions and ideologies consider homosexual sexual desire for their own gender to be an evil abomination shows you this ideology should have been cast away a long time ago. Honestly at this point whenever I hear someone say the word male gaze in an unironic way I know this person is typically an idiot not worth listening to.
 

MariaTenebre

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Masks aren't woke at all. Japan was doing this before hand when they were sick because you know in this since they care enough about people not enough to get sick. I always supported mask wearing and even staying inside during quarantine. Not like the wokeies who call out people who violate quarantine and not masking but then support going out protesting, burning, looting, murdering etc which caused surges in Corona. In fact my brother who has a MD after his name was told by Doctors who were treating new Corona cases that they weren't allowed to ask people if they were out protesting. In fact I have said that neither the far left or far right like science. They are bot censorious, authoritarian, sex negative, puritanical etc. They just call out to different gods.