Is it appropriate?

[sailormoonotaku]

My first topic.

I've been wondering if certain episodes of Sailor Moon may be a bit much for young audiences. I am referring to episodes like the death of Nephlite, the deaths of the senshi at the North Pole and the finale of Stars. Would you let small children watch those episodes? I know there was nothing ecchi intended in Usagi's nude scene, that was a purity symbol. But should you wait for children to to develop a certain level of maturity before showing them episodes that have a lot of violence?

Also, is there any truth to stories that parents in Japan said episodes 45 and 46 were too much for the young audience to handle?

 

[Leia the Rebel]

well in Japan i think the age rating for it is 6-14 since they do there rating different from the US. the sub/ "unedited" dub disk have the rating label of PG 13 while the edited dub has the rating of Y-7.

Disney movies do have alot of deaths. Also Usagi being nude is not bad i mean her nudity is just like a doll.

 

[moonpoweredkitty]

no I think the English Dub is ok for kids because a lot of it was taken out so most of the violence is missing. However I don't think the original Japanese version is appropriate for anyone under 13 as it is quite violent and a lot darker than the English Dub especially the Stars season.

 

[HeartWarrior]

I feel a lot of the scenes were mature for the series but made it more enjoyable for me, however I felt that it would be more acceptable for the non-traditional Japanese audience. Ep. 45-46 were shocking for me to see at first when I had seen it in full, however it was epic for me to watch.

 

[Moon Star]

If I were a parent, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with my kids viewing the uncensored version of Sailor Moon. At worst (by Western standards, at least), the show deserves a PG-13 rating.

The nudity in SM is mostly used in a metaphorical, non-sexual way (or comedic, in the cases of Mamoru and Seiya). It's no worse than a naked Barbie doll, or accidentally walking in on your parents while they're bathing or showering.

There should be no issue at all with explaining Haruka and Michiru's relationship to kids, especially in light of modern society, where more kids are being raised by same-sex parents and other kids have gay teachers and classmates.

The death and violence in SM is really no worse than your average Disney movie. If kids can watch Mufasa die on-screen in The Lion King, then the deaths in Sailor Moon shouldn't be too difficult, either.

 

[HeartWarrior]

If I were a parent, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with my kids viewing the uncensored version of Sailor Moon. At worst (by Western standards, at least), the show deserves a PG-13 rating.

The nudity in SM is mostly used in a metaphorical, non-sexual way (or comedic, in the cases of Mamoru and Seiya). It's no worse than a naked Barbie doll, or accidentally walking in on your parents while they're bathing or showering.

There should be no issue at all with explaining Haruka and Michiru's relationship to kids, especially in light of modern society, where more kids are being raised by same-sex parents and other kids have gay teachers and classmates.

The death and violence in SM is really no worse than your average Disney movie. If kids can watch Mufasa die on-screen in The Lion King, then the deaths in Sailor Moon shouldn't be too difficult, either.

Agreed. :o

 

[DarkLies212]

I don't believe in censoring kids like that. As a child I was never censored and I'm glad I wasn't. Looking at all the people I grew up with and those who were censored turned out to be wild childs because they found out about a world they never knew about.
So in my opinion, I find it very appropriate ^^ I watched this before I even started going to school & it's been my favorite ever since haha

 

[Remus Tsukino]

Not really. The only reason I never showed the final episode to my sibs is because I don't want to hear about it from my mother (she's a bit strict on nudity). In all honesty, my sibs have seen the other four seasons and the three movies without problems.

 

[raywing]

Considering that only about five years after Sailor Moon starting airing stateside via syndication that Toonami didn't have the balls to go past a few episodes of Evangelion tells me that Sailor Moon is perfectly fine.

 

[Sabrblade]

Japanese standards are a lot less strict than American standards.

As for the Disney movie violence comparison, movies are movies and TV shows are TV shows. Different rules apply for each.

 

[loyalmoonie]

Japanese standards are a lot less strict than American standards.

Yes, but in recent times, it appears Shintaro Ishihara continues to try to make the standards more strict than they need to be.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Japanese standards are a lot less strict than American standards.

Yes, but in recent times, it appears Shintaro Ishihara continues to try to make the standards more strict than they need to be.

Considering that the US has always had significant influences on the Japanese political scenes, especially in those behind-the-scene bargaining/manipulative operations, maybe those increasingly strict standards are the result of an attempt to at least partially enforce the American standards in the country?

 

[Remus Tsukino]

Japanese standards are a lot less strict than American standards.

As for the Disney movie violence comparison, movies are movies and TV shows are TV shows. Different rules apply for each.

"Pay a man enough, and he'll walk barefoot into hell."-David Xanatos, Gargoyles.

 

[Leia the Rebel]

no I think the English Dub is ok for kids because a lot of it was taken out so most of the violence is missing. However I don't think the original Japanese version is appropriate for anyone under 13 as it is quite violent and a lot darker than the English Dub especially the Stars season.

but kids in Japan watched it. so how are kids in the US different ?

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

no I think the English Dub is ok for kids because a lot of it was taken out so most of the violence is missing. However I don't think the original Japanese version is appropriate for anyone under 13 as it is quite violent and a lot darker than the English Dub especially the Stars season.

but kids in Japan watched it. so how are kids in the US different ?

It's the adults in Japan & the US who're different.

 

[Leia the Rebel]

no I think the English Dub is ok for kids because a lot of it was taken out so most of the violence is missing. However I don't think the original Japanese version is appropriate for anyone under 13 as it is quite violent and a lot darker than the English Dub especially the Stars season.

but kids in Japan watched it. so how are kids in the US different ?

It's the adults in Japan & the US who're different.

well yea.... then people in the US need to stop babying their kids.

 

[HeartWarrior]

Japanese culture seems to be more accepting of the things that they have edited out here.

 

[Sub Zippo]

I don't think small children should watch Sailor Moon simply because most of the show would go over their heads. There's little in it I feel inappropriate for young audiences, but I just don't think they would fully appreciate it.

Perhaps tying my thought to this example is a stretch, but I remember once when I was substitute teaching a music class and showing a few of the younger classes Fantasia, one of the kids, who couldn't have been older than ten, asked 'Don't you think we're too old for this?' My reply, without hesitation, was 'This movie is a masterpiece. If anything, you're too young for it.'

I can debate whether or not certain instances of sex and violence in any media are inappropriate for young eyes, but the simple fact of whether or not they are mature enough to understand and comprehend something should be a bigger factor in my opinion.

 

[Sabrblade]

I don't think small children should watch Sailor Moon simply because most of the show would go over their heads. There's little in it I feel inappropriate for young audiences, but I just don't think they would fully appreciate it.

Perhaps tying my thought to this example is a stretch, but I remember once when I was substitute teaching a music class and showing a few of the younger classes Fantasia, one of the kids, who couldn't have been older than ten, asked 'Don't you think we're too old for this?' My reply, without hesitation, was 'This movie is a masterpiece. If anything, you're too young for it.'

I can debate whether or not certain instances of sex and violence in any media are inappropriate for young eyes, but the simple fact of whether or not they are mature enough to understand and comprehend something should be a bigger factor in my opinion.

Agreed. Sailor Moon is for, at youngest, big kids in the U.S.

 

[Usapon]

Violence is definitely worse for children to watch than nudity or sex is, but I don't think either of those reaches such heights in BSSM. Nephrite's death is a bit gruesome, but I wouldn't exactly hold my hand up so that the kid couldn't see it, either.

If they get traumatised, at least they realise that they shouldn't be peeking at the stuff their parents don't want them to see. My little brother kept peeking back when mom told him to stay away the TV and when he caught a glimpse of some violent battle scene it apparently scared him enough not to peek any further.