That is debatable, since it depends on how graphic the violence is. There can be violence that is intense and powerful yet bloodless and not gory. Like, some of the classic Tom and Jerry cartoons could get extremely violent in their content, but would hardly be considered graphic and certainly less objectionable than nudity or sex are.
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I happen to somewhat agree with this, the 'too young' audience (as you had put it) wouldn't be able to appreciate the series' writing and storyline as much as the older ones would. I would hope the new series would be like a "page turner" for a tv series and wanting to get to next episode that same day. That seems to happen a lot to me, I always wish they would have 2 episodes on the same day and make it into an hour long thing.
This is actually a topic that sparks up loooong rants for me. I believe that in the past 10 years or so, parents have become increasingly paranoid about their babies and kids. Maybe in the US it's been longer than that but in my country this is definitely a new mentality... brought about by growing living conditions and the possibility of buying better products (there was a revolution, we're no longer under a Communist regime, merchandise from the outside can be comfortably imported, along with movies and shows and mentalities - all that social jazz that doesn't need anymore describing here). Anywho. The thing is that children nowadays are way too sheltered from EVERYTHING. Sheltered from the possibility of violence, from the notion of sex, from germs and bacteria and bleeding knees, and from fiction that may be considered dark or edgy or tragic or dramatic or sexy.
You can't even use a damn lighter anymore, now that the EU has declared that all lighters should have a safety mechanism to not have kids burning their fingers off. Not to mention stoves! EVERYTHING is now sold with "baby-proof" mechanisms. I dunno, maybe I'm overly cynical or I just happened to survive my childhood by accident, but when I was a kid there was none of that $hit and as far as I can tell I have a pulse and not too many gruesome stories to tell from back then. When my parents saw that I, as a baby, was attracted to the flame on their stove, my dad took me in his arms, carried me there, and purposefully let me put my finger on the flame and get burnt, so as to make sure I'll never do it again... And I didn't. I didn't die, I didn't have scars that lasted a life-time, I didn't even remember it... but people back then were more realistic about their children NOT being the center of the Universe and NOT being made out of fine porcelain.
And all of this "germ" protection... and not letting kids play outside... What IS IT with these people?!? Don't they at least know how the immune system develops and works? If you shelter your child inside a bubble when his immune system is developing (aka "in childhood"!) you'll end up with a teenager and later adult whose body won't be able to fight anything and who's gonna be plagued by various allergies and diseases for his entire life. All because mummy didn't want him to be exposed to the "harsh" environments of dirt and mud and bleeding knees, and fed him only child-friendly food which was minced until it was pastier than paste, and which probably had nothing to do with real food...
And then of course there's the problem of fiction - which is when I finally get on-topic
. Parents, and especially American parents from what I can tell, have somehow developed this mentality that a child shouldn't be exposed to... well, pretty much anything. Sex, violence, tragedy, unhappy endings, cynical messages, etc. I guess everyone here knows the "scandal" of there being sexual things in Disney movies, like the phallus on the Little Mermaid VHS cover and the word "SEX" written in the night sky in a scene from 'The Lion King", and so on. Now... explain to me, how is a child's mind even going to FIND that phallus on the VHS cover? For him it's a tower. YOU'RE the sick pervert who sees sexual innuendo everywhere, including where it was never intended to be! You, the parent. Who spends his time looking for the "indecency" that his child is exposed to! And the word "sex" being written there... trust me: 1) no child young enough to not know what sex is will know how to read that word, and 2) when a child watches a movie he actually watches for the story and characters, not looking for "immorality" in the stars and grass and dirt and stone and Simba's mane. If your child's looking for "SEX" in the sky or a phallus in the castle architecture he already knows what those things are and you "sheltering" him won't help anyone anymore, anyway. And it's not the movies' fault, either. It's your fault as a parent, that you can't treat the subject of sex like a mature adult and have to lie to him and make him believe it's something shameful or that can be laughed at - or ignored completely. But hey, by all means, act like there's no such thing as procreation - and tell me how that worked out for you when your daughter comes home pregnant one day 'cause she has no idea what a condom even is and her boyfriend said "let's try something, it'll be fun, I promise".
Then there's this stupid question I often see on the IMDB boards of various movies: "is it too dark for a child"? Umm... I'm sorry but in which episode from our evolution as human beings did children STOP liking dark things? When was the last time you heard someone say "OMG I LOVED the Teletubies when I was a kid, they were the best show ever!!!!", and when was the last time you heard someone say they LOVED things like... "Labyrinth", "The Nightmare Before Christmas", "The Neverending Story", "Gremlins", etc? Children LOVE dark and edgy! Look at classical fairytales, with Cinderella's sisters chopping their feet to have them fit inside the slipper, and Snow White's step-mom being forced to wear metal shoes over a fire and thus dance at Snow's wedding ceremony... and Hansel and Gretel roasting the witch, and Rapunzel's prince falling from the tower eyes-first in the thorns of a rose bush, and the little mermaid turning into sea-foam (dying), and the little match-girl dying in the cold while hallucinating about her grand-mother, etc etc etc. ALL fairy-tales are dark or have themes of violence! And children love these. They love revenge, they love drama and yes, they DO very much understand where there is depth in a story. When I was a kid I always preferred stories with depth to them because they never underestimated me or my intellect. I preferred not to understand EVERYTHING yet, than to be treated like a brain-dead who would SOMEHOW find it enjoyable to be spoken to nice and slowly... and asked to repeat stuff after the show-host. Did anyone EVER like those things? I always assumed it was a general thing that children dislike that "come on kids, let's have FUN!!!" stuff.
So... to conclude my wall of text: yes, Sailor Moon is DEFINITELY appropriate for kids. It's actually a very good combination of bubbly-cute and dramatic-dark. Don't underestimate children and their intelligence...
You can't even use a damn lighter anymore, now that the EU has declared that all lighters should have a safety mechanism to not have kids burning their fingers off. Not to mention stoves! EVERYTHING is now sold with "baby-proof" mechanisms. I dunno, maybe I'm overly cynical or I just happened to survive my childhood by accident, but when I was a kid there was none of that $hit and as far as I can tell I have a pulse and not too many gruesome stories to tell from back then. When my parents saw that I, as a baby, was attracted to the flame on their stove, my dad took me in his arms, carried me there, and purposefully let me put my finger on the flame and get burnt, so as to make sure I'll never do it again... And I didn't. I didn't die, I didn't have scars that lasted a life-time, I didn't even remember it... but people back then were more realistic about their children NOT being the center of the Universe and NOT being made out of fine porcelain.
And all of this "germ" protection... and not letting kids play outside... What IS IT with these people?!? Don't they at least know how the immune system develops and works? If you shelter your child inside a bubble when his immune system is developing (aka "in childhood"!) you'll end up with a teenager and later adult whose body won't be able to fight anything and who's gonna be plagued by various allergies and diseases for his entire life. All because mummy didn't want him to be exposed to the "harsh" environments of dirt and mud and bleeding knees, and fed him only child-friendly food which was minced until it was pastier than paste, and which probably had nothing to do with real food...
And then of course there's the problem of fiction - which is when I finally get on-topic
. Parents, and especially American parents from what I can tell, have somehow developed this mentality that a child shouldn't be exposed to... well, pretty much anything. Sex, violence, tragedy, unhappy endings, cynical messages, etc. I guess everyone here knows the "scandal" of there being sexual things in Disney movies, like the phallus on the Little Mermaid VHS cover and the word "SEX" written in the night sky in a scene from 'The Lion King", and so on. Now... explain to me, how is a child's mind even going to FIND that phallus on the VHS cover? For him it's a tower. YOU'RE the sick pervert who sees sexual innuendo everywhere, including where it was never intended to be! You, the parent. Who spends his time looking for the "indecency" that his child is exposed to! And the word "sex" being written there... trust me: 1) no child young enough to not know what sex is will know how to read that word, and 2) when a child watches a movie he actually watches for the story and characters, not looking for "immorality" in the stars and grass and dirt and stone and Simba's mane. If your child's looking for "SEX" in the sky or a phallus in the castle architecture he already knows what those things are and you "sheltering" him won't help anyone anymore, anyway. And it's not the movies' fault, either. It's your fault as a parent, that you can't treat the subject of sex like a mature adult and have to lie to him and make him believe it's something shameful or that can be laughed at - or ignored completely. But hey, by all means, act like there's no such thing as procreation - and tell me how that worked out for you when your daughter comes home pregnant one day 'cause she has no idea what a condom even is and her boyfriend said "let's try something, it'll be fun, I promise". Then there's this stupid question I often see on the IMDB boards of various movies: "is it too dark for a child"? Umm... I'm sorry but in which episode from our evolution as human beings did children STOP liking dark things? When was the last time you heard someone say "OMG I LOVED the Teletubies when I was a kid, they were the best show ever!!!!", and when was the last time you heard someone say they LOVED things like... "Labyrinth", "The Nightmare Before Christmas", "The Neverending Story", "Gremlins", etc? Children LOVE dark and edgy! Look at classical fairytales, with Cinderella's sisters chopping their feet to have them fit inside the slipper, and Snow White's step-mom being forced to wear metal shoes over a fire and thus dance at Snow's wedding ceremony... and Hansel and Gretel roasting the witch, and Rapunzel's prince falling from the tower eyes-first in the thorns of a rose bush, and the little mermaid turning into sea-foam (dying), and the little match-girl dying in the cold while hallucinating about her grand-mother, etc etc etc. ALL fairy-tales are dark or have themes of violence! And children love these. They love revenge, they love drama and yes, they DO very much understand where there is depth in a story. When I was a kid I always preferred stories with depth to them because they never underestimated me or my intellect. I preferred not to understand EVERYTHING yet, than to be treated like a brain-dead who would SOMEHOW find it enjoyable to be spoken to nice and slowly... and asked to repeat stuff after the show-host. Did anyone EVER like those things? I always assumed it was a general thing that children dislike that "come on kids, let's have FUN!!!" stuff.
So... to conclude my wall of text: yes, Sailor Moon is DEFINITELY appropriate for kids. It's actually a very good combination of bubbly-cute and dramatic-dark. Don't underestimate children and their intelligence...
That's true. And there was also that thing abut Aladdin saying something like "good teenagers take off your clothes". Which I never heard no matter how many hundreds of times I watched the movie as a kid, but apparently paranoid housewives managed to perfectly understand. I never went to the original footage to check these things out, though, so I can't guarantee that they're true or false (I had no idea the Lion King one was not a fact, for example). I don't care, either. These complaints usually come from people who assume that everything animated is meant for children alone, and who fail to understand that animation is an art form and not an education tool, meant to aid parents who leave their kids in front of the television set for hours. The guys down at the Disney studios are artists, no matter how commercial they might've become in the last years - if you, the angry parent, fail to understand that and assume that they're just some robots making up colorful drawings for your kids to stare at, you're not worth paying attention to in the first place.
EDIT: Ooops, sorry for posting twice! I didn't realize I was replying on the same thread as before
EDIT: Ooops, sorry for posting twice! I didn't realize I was replying on the same thread as before
That did not happen. The lines spoken were "C'mon... good kitty," and a mysterious second line spoken by someone other than Scott Weinger. Here's the full story - http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/aladdin.asp
True. Generally I think that intense violence, bloodless or no, is worse for children than a sex scene is. Porn is a different thing because it's not "real" sex (my health ed teacher used the word "sex acrobatics" 
). By this I don't mean that all children should by all means watch people [BLEEP]ing each others, but let's just say that my opinion is that having sex is more... natural than violence.
And no, I do not need a hair-splitting explanation about how violence in also natural in our species when it's used for survival (or smth, just don't give me that)
(Don't Itchy and Scratchy parody Tom & Jerry?
)
I've noticed that as well.
I think that's the danger of it. Mature content is dangerous to children when they can't process it. I'm not 18 yet, but that doesn't render me mentally incapable of watching Kill Bill, which is rated "18" in my country. Similarly some children may be able to watch content that is "above their age" is they do understand it and realise that it is not real (as in movies or cartoons, documentaries are of course a different thing).
). By this I don't mean that all children should by all means watch people [BLEEP]ing each others, but let's just say that my opinion is that having sex is more... natural than violence.And no, I do not need a hair-splitting explanation about how violence in also natural in our species when it's used for survival (or smth, just don't give me that)
(Don't Itchy and Scratchy parody Tom & Jerry?
)I've noticed that as well.
Rika-Chicchi said:
And I wouldn't mind kids watching serious, mature films if they really want to, even tho I doubt they'd fully get it. 
Mature content is dangerous to children when they can't process it. I'm not 18 yet, but that doesn't render me mentally incapable of watching Kill Bill, which is rated "18" in my country. Similarly some children may be able to watch content that is "above their age" is they do understand it and realise that it is not real (as in movies or cartoons, documentaries are of course a different thing).
Usapon said:
True. Generally I think that intense violence, bloodless or no, is worse for children than a sex scene is. Porn is a different thing because it's not "real" sex (my health ed teacher used the word "sex acrobatics" ). By this I don't mean that all children should by all means watch people [BLEEP]ing each others, but let's just say that my opinion is that having sex is more... natural than violence.
And no, I do not need a hair-splitting explanation about how violence in also natural in our species when it's used for survival (or smth, just don't give me that)
). By this I don't mean that all children should by all means watch people [BLEEP]ing each others, but let's just say that my opinion is that having sex is more... natural than violence.And no, I do not need a hair-splitting explanation about how violence in also natural in our species when it's used for survival (or smth, just don't give me that)
Rika-Chicchi said:
And I wouldn't mind kids watching serious, mature films if they really want to, even tho I doubt they'd fully get it.
Mature content is dangerous to children when they can't process it. I'm not 18 yet, but that doesn't render me mentally incapable of watching Kill Bill, which is rated "18" in my country. Similarly some children may be able to watch content that is "above their age" is they do understand it and realise that it is not real (as in movies or cartoons, documentaries are of course a different thing).
Usapon said:
True. Generally I think that intense violence, bloodless or no, is worse for children than a sex scene is. Porn is a different thing because it's not "real" sex (my health ed teacher used the word "sex acrobatics" ). By this I don't mean that all children should by all means watch people [BLEEP]ing each others, but let's just say that my opinion is that having sex is more... natural than violence.
And no, I do not need a hair-splitting explanation about how violence in also natural in our species when it's used for survival (or smth, just don't give me that)
). By this I don't mean that all children should by all means watch people [BLEEP]ing each others, but let's just say that my opinion is that having sex is more... natural than violence.And no, I do not need a hair-splitting explanation about how violence in also natural in our species when it's used for survival (or smth, just don't give me that)
Granted, todays horror films have practically no taste to them.
I find the content of Sailormoon to be far mild compared anything I have ever played/watch.
It isn't very dark at all. I mean, yeah, it has some dark parts in it but it isn't like "Harry Potter dark" or "Dark Knight Rises dark" but more like something like "Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time dark".
As for violence and sexual content, I say it would probably just as compariable to Zelda OoT, which is often considered to be a "kid friendly" game. It had some "sexy" looking characters like the great fairies. As for violence such as Nephrite's death, which was surprisingly not censored or when Usagi climbed through the thorn bush to Neherenia's castle in Stars, it isn't that different than Zelda OoT's violent content.
If Zelda can have it and still be considered a "kids game" then I guess Sailormoon can too.
Just look here for the faries in OoT: http://zeldawiki.org/File:Great_Fairy_OoT.jpg
And as for Zelda's violent and disturbing content, go look here, especially pics 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 9: http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/z64misc.html
Oh yeah, even OoT back when it was first released it was uncensored and was still considered a kids game. Ok, so number 3 looks the most violent of them all, yet the scene still exists in other versions but still bleeds blood, only green in later versions. Oh, and OoT = Freaken awesome game. I find it to be just as awesome as Sailormoon.
It isn't very dark at all. I mean, yeah, it has some dark parts in it but it isn't like "Harry Potter dark" or "Dark Knight Rises dark" but more like something like "Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time dark".
As for violence and sexual content, I say it would probably just as compariable to Zelda OoT, which is often considered to be a "kid friendly" game. It had some "sexy" looking characters like the great fairies. As for violence such as Nephrite's death, which was surprisingly not censored or when Usagi climbed through the thorn bush to Neherenia's castle in Stars, it isn't that different than Zelda OoT's violent content.
If Zelda can have it and still be considered a "kids game" then I guess Sailormoon can too.
Just look here for the faries in OoT: http://zeldawiki.org/File:Great_Fairy_OoT.jpg
And as for Zelda's violent and disturbing content, go look here, especially pics 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 9: http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/z64misc.html
Oh yeah, even OoT back when it was first released it was uncensored and was still considered a kids game. Ok, so number 3 looks the most violent of them all, yet the scene still exists in other versions but still bleeds blood, only green in later versions. Oh, and OoT = Freaken awesome game. I find it to be just as awesome as Sailormoon.
