Mamoru and Usagi in love (first season)

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I just wanted to share some monologues that i found on the internet a while ago. These monologues are from the ANIME and well, lets say that this debunks the myth that Usagi and Mamoru are together just because of the past, which to me sounds a little bit silly, since in the manga Usagi says in the japanese version that everytime she'd bump into him she'd feel very happy and her heart would beat faster. Granted their relationship in the anime was a lot more childish but that doesn't mean that the feelings and attraction weren't there.

And these monologues and songs are from the ANIME and they come on a CD.

Usagi's Monologue (Translated by Alex Glover)

Let's see, let's see, let's see... I'm Tsukino Usagi, a loving girl in eighth grade. This is really strange! When I first met this guy, I thought he was a real big jerk, but I've realized that I've gradually come to like him. Girls are so weird! I wonder if it's all right for me to like a guy who's so stuck up!

 

But... Every time I see him, for some reason I feel invigorated. What on earth is this wondrous feeling? Every time I see him, each and every day seems more fresh than ever before in my life. *sigh*... I want to make the most beautiful love like this.

 

Mamoru-san... Tuxedo Kamen-sama... And Endymion-sama of my awakening ancient memories of the past... To be with you, I think I want to become any girl it takes. "I believe in you"... I wonder if that's the same as saying I love you. By the window at night, when I think of you far away, why... Why...? 

So, as you can read Usagi was actually in love with Mamoru, but she didn't understand her feelings at all. The feelings were there, they were not caused by glimpses of a past life.

There's even a song she sings to Mamoru (dreaming by itself is no good) where she says that she's going to listen to her heart and fall in love.

Just like a wing, spread your arms wide Wow... wow...
So, it's all right, blow off your anxiety Wow... wow...
The sensors of my heart are catching palpitations
I wonder if it could be that I am in love?
The magic of my smile I am offering to you
I will give you the wonder that only I have

*I can feel it, the next world, I believe that 
Someday my dreams will surely come true 
Just fall in love, listen to your heart sound Wow... wow... 
So, it's all right, take a deep breath now Wow... wow... 
As long as you keep dreaming, you won't make it end

Every now and then, we may have a small fight 
But the beat in my heart doesn't change 
I am chasing after the same dream as you 
And I am going to become more beautiful 
All the things I have been longing for 
I can do them, and thinking that's a feeling I treasure

**Just like a wing, spread your arms wide Wow... wow... 
So, it's all right, blow off your anxiety Wow... wow... 
Because your dreams will surely come true

*I can feel it, the next world, I believe that 
Someday my dreams will surely come true 
Just fall in love, listen to your heart sound Wow... wow... 
So, it's all right, take a deep breath now Wow... wow... 
As long as you keep dreaming, you won't make it end

**Just like a wing, spread your arms wide Wow... wow... 
So, it's all right, blow off your anxiety Wow... wow... 
Because your dreams will surely come true

And Mamoru, well, how can I say this without sounding mean... I thought it was obvious that he cared about Usagi with or without Memories... He didn't need memories to prove that he loved her in ep 59... He didn't know anything about their past, since it was implied that the moonlight knight was the embodiment of his memories. Why does Ann get all crazy when Mamoru holds Usagi's hands? Because it's obvious to Ali that Mamoru cares about Usagi and not Ann as she thought. Then the moonlight knight says that he wanted to protect Usagi not sailor moon. Usagi was the girl that was precious to him. It's obvious that if he cares about Usagi in the second season he also cared for her in the first one. I've watched this episode in italian, spanish (from spain and mexico), portuguese and japanese and in all those versions Mamoru says that the one that is important (the one he loves) is Usagi, the only version that got it all wrong was the american version, but what can we expect? the whole version was butchered, censored and completely different from the original one. And let's not forget something really important, Mamoru protects Usagi in ep 34, why would he risk his life if he didn't care about her? He obviously cares. He didn't know anything about her being a princess and what have you. He protected her because he loved her. True love is when you care more about the person you love than you care about your own life. That's true love. (or so I read somewhere)

That's the reason the silver crystal appeared, because what happened on the moon was happening again, Mamoru was injured protecting the person he cares about. And yes, it was Mamoru protecting Usagi (not Tuxedo Kamen protecting Sailor Moon) even Luna says that in the beginning of the next episode.

How can I be so sure about this? Well let's listen to his song (not literally...I should say let's read his song)

Crossing Time

Now the time when we first met 
I cross time and dream of it... 

Amidst the ruins, that is where I found you  
My trembling shoulders became tense...  
If the world once again crumbles to pieces  
Only we, the chosen two will be left...  
 In the darkness of night, when a sudden sound  
 Frightens you, I will hold you close to me 

The fallen skyscrapers send off on the wind blowing through the air  
The sound of a whistled requiem... 
The age far off someday when we are born again  
Will be a tranquil utopia... 

It is so very wondrous, this feeling that I have  
Long ago, somewhere, I've had it before...  
The threads of memory drawn in and tied together  
The capital of the ancient forest  
 Shined upon by the full blue moon  
 The two of us fell in a painful love 

The night I ran away with you was so cold and heart-breaking  
The shooting stars above were countless 

Even if someday we are reborn, I know that surely  
I will search for you again 

The fallen skyscrapers send off on the wind blowing through the air  
The sound of a whistled requiem... 

The age far off someday when we are born again...

This song should have played when he got his memories from their past life.

Notice how he says "It is so very wondrous, this feeling that I have, long ago, somewhere, I've had it before..." Meaning that he also has, in this lifetime, that wondrous feeling that Usagi mentions in her monologue.
And in his monologue he says he's in love too... His first love. But in order to understand the irony of the whole monologue, I have to add an extract of a dialogue between Luna and Usagi (this is from the second CD)

Luna: Eventually Usagi's love ends up in failure.
Usagi: It's always just a one-sided love anyways!

So by failure they mean that it's unrequited.

Mamoru's Monologue (Translated by Alex Glover)

The first love... So often, it ends in failure. I'm waiting for a sad ending. In this age, there are many people who have become unable to act with simple kindness. That's sad... I am broken-hearted, with deep wounds. But if there was a girl whose heart was broken in the same way, I would comfort her softly. And then, thinking of her feelings, I would cry. Such pure girls are the kind I love. 

So basically Mamoru is saying that he's waiting for a sad ending to his first love because he thinks it's one-sided. Then he says he's heart broken but that he'd comfort a girl whose heart was broken in the same way... and he goes as far as to say that he'd cry thinking about her feelings... why? Because he's going through the same thing.
And the irony is that he's talking about Usagi, because Usagi is the one who suffers from unrequited love according to the second CD from the anime. So he'd comfort the girl that doesn't return his feelings.

First love= failure= one-sided love= sad ending= heart broken.
Girl whose heart is broken in the same way
First Love= failure= one-side love= sad ending= heart broken.

Besides I thought it was pretty obvious and a cliché that if a guy is teasing a girl ,in an anime or manga, is because he likes her... why else would he waste his time trying to get the girl’s attention?! Or doesn't Mamoru look a little crestfallen when Usagi yells at him that she doesn't like a guy who doesn't understand a girl's feelings?

Their whole relationship was a cliché, there is even a parody of Mamoru's behavior (teasing) toward Usagi in ep 65. There are two kids teasing Chibi-Usa, one even calls her odango... Chibi-Usa is not naive so she knows that the kids are hitting on her. She says "are you hitting on me? You are so immature, that's why everyone makes fun of you" or something along those lines. And then Minako says: "Don't let this bother you, boys tend to tease the girls they like instead of being nice to them"

I'm telling ya... Cliché. That's the reason they didn't develop their relationship. It was obvious that the arguing and silly bickering was a front.

In ep 61 Usagi says "Why Mamo-chan? We FINALLY acknowledged each other's love. SO, Why do you SUDDENLY want to break up with me?"

She says that because they must have talked. She doesn't say. "Why Mamo-chan? We finally remembered our love" that's just silly. She can't understand why he wants to break up with her since they acknowledged their love. But she is sure that he loves HER, anyway. Because Naoko didn't create two characters that fell in love because of their past, she created two characters whose love is eternal because they are twin souls (not soul mates), who will always be in love and who are together because they WANT TO.

I've been watching the musicals on youtube lately and if you pay attention to the songs you can easily tell that they are together because as they sing THEIR LOVE IS FOREVER. They say that their meeting is foreordained and that she will always choose Mamoru. That even is they die they will always meet again and again.
There's a scene where Mamoru bumps into Usagi and he starts teasing her and calling her odango atama, just like in the anime. But they are together, because when Usagi is kinda mad he calls her Usako. Usagi stars crying because she wants to go to the ocean and Mamoru promises that he'll take her... if she finishes her summer homework... he never stopped teasing her.

In another musical Mamoru is dying (he actually died) and he's telling Usagi that they'd meet again, that when they meet again he wants to be a normal Mamoru and be with a normal Usagi and have a normal happy relationship with her. He is sure that he will fall in love with her all over again. Because he has fallen in love with her three times, because their love is forever as they keep on singing.

There's even a scene in the anime where Usagi is going to say exactly what she felt when she first met Mamoru... but then she's interrupted, so typical in sailor moon. Anyway Ami is saying that she didn't want to go out with tigers eye (ep 144) because she didn't feel anything special when she met him. She said that if her partner is destined by god with the red string of fate then there will be a time for the two of them to meet and when that happens she'll know because you must feel something special when you meet someone of that sort. Then you see Usagi gasp when she remembers what she felt when she met Mamoru, because they both felt it... They are TWIN SOULS. Usagi says: A destined partner, huh?... When I first met Mamo-chan" and then Minako cuts her off.
So it’s really silly to say that they are together or that they felt in love when they remembered... yeah, cause Mamoru is just some hero that dies or gets injured protecting Usagi just because... But not because he actually cares about her...

When he finally remembers he remembers Tsukino Usagi, the odango atama. I thought it was obvious in the way they animated that part of the scene when he remembers. Pay close attention to his gaze when he says ... no, my dumpling head, Tsukino Usagi. His gaze softens and he smiles. Because Usagi is the girl he was attracted to, not sailor moon. That was the reason behind that line. And then Usagi says “you got them back, you got your memories back”. That’s all he had to say for Usagi to know he finally remembered. He didn’t say “My princess” or something like that, since he was not looking for a princess all he ever wanted was to know who he really was, he wanted to remember his childhood.

And the reason he finally remembered was because he proved that he loved Usagi, just like in the manga. Because in the manga he remembers about their past after proving that he loved her, by protecting her with his own life. So, why should that be different in the anime? Just because we didn’t see him kissing a handkerchief, doesn’t mean he didn’t care about Usagi. There are different ways to prove that you care about someone. Risking your life protecting someone you care about for example, that’s a bigger prove than to have him kiss some handkerchief. But we saw him trying to get Usagi’s attention all the time, staring and smiling at her, worrying about her when he thought she might get lost in the game center, grabbing her by the wrist and looking back with a smile on his face and we also saw him giving her explanations as to why Natsumi was in his apartment as if Usagi was his jealous girlfriend or something, because he cared about her. Then he tries to reach for Usagi in ep 59, he could have just left but he takes his ugly green jacket off and tries to get to her in the same way they tried to reach for each other when they were Endymion and Serenity. Does that say something?

I might keep on rambling on an on but the point is that they love who they are and they were in love during the first season. Usagi wasn’t going to openly admit it because she was stubborn and, well, Mamoru actually thought that Usagi hated him and wasn’t going to do anything about his feelings either. But that doesn’t mean that the feelings weren’t there. Since they are twin souls and their love is… forever.

One more thing... When Usagi asks Mamoru how much he loves her in ep 200 he really says: When I’m around you I feel invigorated.

That is the wondrous feeling that Usagi describes in her monologue, same wondrous feeling Mamoru mentions in his song.

I don’t actually think you can get that feeling when you get a few memories from a past life. Because let’s be honest, it must be kinda freaky to suddenly feel invigorated when you are close to a person when you never felt it before.

So they are together and will always be together because of what they feel when they are around each other, what they have always felt. Since they are two pieces of the same whole, destined to come together as one. That’s why they say it’s destiny that they are together. Since their meeting has been foreordained by god. Since god was the one that created them as one and split them, in order for them to find each other. That’s what they mean by a destined partner and the whole red string of fate thing. They are talking about your other half, the one person that completes you. And that’s why they are completely different, opposite poles attract.

Besides there was only going to be one season of sailor moon. It was the story of two twin souls finding each other and that was it, the whole crystal tokyo and the future was something that Naoko came up with when they told her that they wanted to continue with the story. So they are not together because of the future, since that wasn’t the idea that Naoko had in mind... all she wanted to create was the story of two people that will always love each other in each and every one of their reincarnations but not because of a memory. We can go ask Naoko! I read that she even reads fanfiction, she knows that her beloved couple is meant to be!
 
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Sailor Astera said:
YAY MAMOxUSA!
:|

That was pretty detailed :mrgreen:
Too detailed for foreigners. :P

They are together because the story is about Usagi and Naoko wanted Usagi to fall in love with her perfect prince. If Naoko says he's the one, then he's the one :love: MAMO-CHAN
"Prince Rose" screams "I AM THE PRINCE, MARRY MEEEEE"
 
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*reads first post* :eeklez: Whoa.

That's... a lot.

A lot of good info.

Take this. :cookie:

I'm gonna have to read it again to make sure I got all that right. ^_^'
 

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This is true Mamoru and Usagi did have an attraction to each other ever from the start in the anime. However they were both to childish to express their emotions and first so they reacted as children would, by teasing and toying with the person they care about. Usagi and Rei had a similar relationship as friends, constantly fighting and arguing even though they were the best of friends.
 
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I enjoy the back and forth teasing, "I sort of like you WAIT NO NO" dynamic they had, I just wish they could have taken it just a step further before this episode happened, I think I would have enjoyed their relationship much more. As it was, I just felt like they let the potential slip by rushing the princess reveal too much.
 
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Something i forgot to mention is that the cd where these songs and monologues appeared was released one week before episode 34 was aired. (1992.11.21)

So the people that bought it already knew that those two were secretly in love with each other... Well, at least Mamoru knew he was in love with his dumpling head (i always thought he was quite obvious about it...) and Usagi knew she liked him, but didn't quite understand her feelings for him... So that's the reason why Mamoru is suddenly nice to Usagi and tells her to never change.... he probably thought that he'd never see her again!!

The song "You're just my love" which played at the end of the last episode of the first season, appears on this album too.

Usagi's song is played at the end of episode 40.

This is the album info:

Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon
~ In Another Dream ~
Columbia COCC-10509. Released 1992.11.21. 2800 yen
Track Title
Lyrics
1. Moonlight Densetsu [Opening Theme Song]
DALI
2. Monologue 1 - Usagi
Usagi
3. Yumemiru dake ja Dame (Dreaming by itself is no good)
Usagi
4. Monologue 2 - Ami
Ami
5. Someday... Somebody...
Ami
6. Monologue 3 - Rei
Rei
7. Eien no Melody (Eternal Melody)
Rei
8. Monologue 4 - Makoto
Makoto
9. Anata no Sei Janai (It's Not Your Fault)
Makoto
10. Monologue 5 - Minako
Minako
11. Anata no Yume wo Mita wa (I Saw Your Dream)
Minako
12. Monologue 6 - Mamoru
Mamoru
13. Toki wo Koete... (Crossing Time...)
Mamoru
14. Short drama - Princess Serenity & Endymion
Serenity & Endymion
15. You're Just My Love
Serenity & Endymion
16. Princess Moon [Ending Theme Song]
HASHIMOTO Ushio

http://sailormusic.net/tracks/In_Another_Dream.html

All the monologues are about love... the only one that was not in love was Ami, but she says that she wants to meet someone someday (in episode 144 she talks about it...)

Mizuno Ami's Monologue

Translated by Alex Glover

The empty sea... The white sands on the beach... Early in the morning after studying all night, when I'm caressed by the sea breeze, I always feel refreshed. On the sandy beach, the waves soak my bare feet. I want to be carried away like I'm in the sea. Someday, somewhere, by the wonderful person I know I'll meet. I want to be carried away.

Last night, when I closed my notebook and took a nap, I had a dream. His figure was vague, and I couldn't see well, but... On his light brown skin, a white T-shirt, and long and slender jeans on his legs. A wonderful man. I feel a premonition of love. But then he vanished into the twilight, as if he was swept away by the wind.

I want to be called softly... Even if by just one word... "Ami-chan"... Someday, somewhere, by the wonderful person I know I'll meet. I want him to call me that.

And poor Makoto was seriously heart-broken:

Kino Makoto's Monologue

Translated by Alex Glover

Among all the trees, the sunlight filters through like falling rain. In the city, as well, the hearts of people go past sunset. When I went to my favorite green tree in the woods, and looked at the city, snow fell. When I feel the cold flakes of snow on my body, I become chilled to my heart. White sadness decorates the city. I want to be with the person I've separated from...

"Kino Makoto." That's too boyish. Maybe I can't be more feminine. He said that with a smile when he left. My body may be boyish, but I'm really not. I told him that. But he wouldn't listen, and didn't hear my final words of parting. Please... I want to discuss love slowly. I want you to listen to my feelings.

When I'm by myself on such a lonely night, I start wanting to cry. I have to wake up from my sweet dream soon, but... I'm drowning all by myself, but... I've fallen in love again with the person I met. My weak self is miserable. I can't become an adult.
 
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Again, more good info. :cookie:

85digitalgirl2006 said:
Something i forgot to mention is that the cd where these songs and monologues appeared was released one week before episode 34 was aired. (1992.11.21)

So the people that bought it already knew that those two were secretly in love with each other... Well, at least Mamoru knew he was in love with his dumpling head (i always thought he was quite obvious about it...) and Usagi knew she liked him, but didn't quite understand her feelings for him... So that's the reason why Mamoru is suddenly nice to Usagi and tells her to never change.... he probably thought that he'd never see her again!!
Ahh, so that sudden change of feelings doesn't seem quite so sudden. Though, they still did a good job at hiding their feelings to give the impression that they were nothing more than acquaintances, or at least nothing more than light friends, before their identites were revealed and their memories were restored.

But, I wouldn't say that, at that point, Mamoru was actually "in love" with Usagi yet. I mean, he may have had some interest in her (hence his casual teasing), but wasn't falling head-over-heels for her. His true feelings didn't become rationalized until after he and her knew who they both were. People can care for each other's well being without being in love.

Either way, he did grow to feel for Usagi in the end, so... whatever. ^_^'
 

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I think some of the appeal of Usagi/Other Character (usually Seiya) is that it is a "forbidden" kind of love. It's more exciting, I guess, than just running with the well-known canon couple. It's the same reason soap operas and romance novels are popular - it can be dry to read about a long-term relationship. :p

That said, thanks for this post! I prefer Usagi/Mamo myself, boring as it may be to some. It is a much more mature relationship in the manga, but it's got its moments in the anime, too. Like you said, the whole point of the first season (especially in the manga) was that they loved (or at least cared for) each other before they knew anything about past lives and the like. That was just icing on the cake, really. It's a little more abrupt in the anime, if one doesn't take those monologues into account. Tend to be with Sabr on this one.

Why can a discussion not be held involving Mamo without people popping in and leaving one-word angry commentary? I always assumed that the Rose x Usagi thing was just a forum joke, but lately it's really rolling into weird territory...
 
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At least he acknowledged the fact that he considered Usagi to be his FIRST LOVE. How old was he? 18, 19? And she was the first girl to ever catch his eye...(of course he behaved like a child in kindergarden... he didn't know any better) He was definitely born to meet her and have the same feeling he had when they met in the silver millenium. They just didn't act upon it, they both were too childish.

Besides Usagi embodies everything he was looking for in a girl. Someone with a big heart, pure, innocent with beautiful dreams.

And the melody that plays along the monologue is quite depressing...

That melody can be found in:

Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon ~Music Collection~ - 06. Koi suru Otomegokoro (falling in love: a girl's feelings)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAjr44D6 ... re=channel

It's the depressing one. The one with violins. It sounds like unrequited love... it starts at 3:17

Here's a link to the monologue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZaMSbiOxsk

The mood of it is quite melancholy.

"The first love... So often, it ends in failure. I'm waiting for a sad ending"

Sad ending equals sad music :p

Here's a link to his song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWYE7ulNMzY

So Mamoru's monologue is quite depressing, but Usagi's is well, SO USAGI!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAsS0_TZtS4

The mood of it is completely different!

Usagi= happy
Mamoru= Gloomy

Again these monologues just clarify what was obvious.The idea of them having feelings for each other because of the past had never crossed my mind, until I read a bunch of well... BS (sorry :blush: ) and I just had to find something official ( from the anime) that says otherwise.

The manga was so much more mature and not as childish as the anime...


In ep 65 they basically compared Mamoru to an 8 year old kid. And they implied how IMMATURE Mamoru was for teasing Usagi as a way of "HITTING ON HER"

Chibi-Usa is a very smart kid! ;) Calling a little boy IMMATURE for teasing her... I wonder what she would think if he knew of his Dad's idiotic ways of flirting...
 
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Usapon said:
If we think about poems and prologues and stuff:

In song Aka Hana no Tobihaneru Makoto wishes for Santa to bring her a cool boyfriend, and so does Minako, as well as Rei... and Usagi. The others stop talking and say: "Usagi-chan!!" "Mamo-chan gomennasai... ehhehe..."

:|
That song is cute!! and she's in character after all. We all know how boy-crazy she can be. I remember when she was going to ruin Makoto's date with Ail (whatever his real name is) because he had told her that he liked HER. And the time she completely forgot about his Mamo-chan and basically followed Haruka around because she thought she was a guy. That's so Usagi!

And That song first appeared on a super s album, so Usagi was joking around.