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That's how I see (most of) Sailor Moon. Sometimes I wanna see an episode or two from my comfort shows, and not doing a whole rewatch, and I like it that I can watch almost any episode of Sailor Moon by itself and still be entertained, while shows that are too serialised lose a lot of the rewatch value, at least for me.
The monster of the week/stand-alone schema is over-hated in my opinion.

The OG Scooby-Doo is one of my favorite cartoons ever and it's exactly because of this MotW component.
Same thing with early seasons of a lot of shows.

I'll have to admit I have no idea what you mean by Charmed level of writing. I'm a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, but I've never felt like watching Charmed :P
There was a lot of drama on Charmed.

I'll put it in spoilers :P
Spoiler: show

But essentially, Charmed was created by Constance M. Burge who wanted the show to focus on magic and sisterly bonds as she based the main protagonists - 3 sisters; Prue (Shannen Doherty), Piper (Holly Marie Combs) and Phoebe (Alyssa Milano) on herself and her sisters.

Doherty (who passed away last month) was contracted first and was considered the main protagonist of the show, she would even go and direct as early as the 2nd season finale.
Doherty, who was known to be very passionate and voice her opinions, and who was best friends with Sarah Michelle Geller of Buffy probably saw the potential the show had and wanted the tone to be go more serious and dark.
The other executive producer, Bran Kern, wanted to focus on romantic interests and skimpy outfits - they butted heads a lot.
Over the course of the 3rd season (which would also be Doherty's last), tensions between her and Milano grew to a high, so much that the producers had to reportedly reduce to a minimum their characters' interactions despite them being sisters on screen.
Basically, Milano bamboozled Doherty and threatened to sue if Doherty wasn't fired (and it's safe to assume she was backed by Kern considering she was his favorite).
Doherty, despite directing the 3rd season's finale - All Hell Breaks Loose - one of the series' most intense episodes ever, was reportedly later fired over the phone.
This firing would eventually tarnish forever her career.

Rose Mcgowan would be brought into the scene to play the 4th long lost sister and does an extremely good job! However, Constance M Burge would also be bullied into being a simple consultant over her own show before departing completely by the end.

The show was envisioned with Doherty as the main selling point and Doherty, who was also best friends with Combs, encouraged her to audition too.
Even though Combs wasn't retained, Doherty went and said that if Combs wasn't on the show, she wouldn't be either forcing the producers to hire her.
So we can say Combs was loyal to Doherty. After her firing, Combs also wanted out but because of contract obligations, she was - by her own words - blackmailed into staying in the show with the producers claiming they would take away all her revenue be it from an acting gig or if she was in a faraway town working at a grocery store.

Enter season 5 and Combs and Milano become... PRODUCERS!
The show turns into a self-serving fest with the character of Phoebe becoming the best creature that ever lived - she is claimed to be the most beautiful, outstanding, gentle, kind blablabla, goes out with the richest boyfriends ever, all the villains are scared of her, she is super successful (over being a love columnist at a random newspaper - in the season opener we discover she literally has her face plastered over giant billboards it's crazy!).
Phoebe does the most selfish things ever and it's always the other person's (typically a man) fault. I kid you not, the characters actually do say it's the other's fault!

Rose Mcgowan, whose character remained the only likable one because her writing wasn't interfered by the 'producers', in the recent years revealed that every time the show would be renewed, she would cry because working with Milano was a nightmare.
Apparently, Doherty too cried when she knew the show was renewed and had to continue to work with Milano.

Piper on the other hand, I guess because Combs never wanted to be on the show by now, turns into a snarky character - a mother, now she forever stays at home frustrated that she got magical kids, commands everyone around, always annoyed at her husband and asks him to go do chores (basically in Combs and Kern's minds, a strong female figure is a condescending husband with boobs).

Past season 5, it's essentially the Phoe-ME era :P

By the last 2 seasons, every other person of the magical world has to beg them to help them because oh, they are so great (barf!)
At one point it even becomes ludicrous when they even argue with beings akin to primordial that they 'did a lot of good and they deserve to be given what they are asking for'.

In the last season, the Angel of Destiny has to literally kill Piper's husband because they have become so selfish and lazy in order to 'motivate' them into being heroes (sounds familiar?).

Because of Milano's ego, Phoebe turns from being the most wholesome character to the most horrible one.
Phoebe S1: 'Come on guys! We are witches! We have to help people! That's what we are!'
Phoebe S8: 'Oh honey... I have so much work... If we help people, demons are gonna come after us and we won't be able to help people... Sorry.'

One of Phoebe's opening lines in the later seasons is, I kid you not, 'I can't go out saving innocents because I have dates! LOTS AND LOTS OF DATES!'

If you are interested, check out Alison Preglers videos, they are great!


If I understand correctly, your take then is that Galaxia is using the Star Seeds thing only as an excuse, while her real goal is to lure the Light of Hope, in order to destroy it.

While I do think what you're saying makes sense, I can't help but wonder if we're trying to connect dots that weren't even thought out to be there. I mean, maybe the writers did think of that and just weren't able/couldn't bother to make things clearer, but maybe it was all so messy and we're the ones who have to try to make some sense of what we were actually given?
While I do think some things changed over the course of the season, I don't think there was much change over Galaxia's character.

As we see from the very first version of the Opening,
Galaxia was always intended to have been possessed by Chaos as we see her seed being corrupted and taking the form of a winged demon.


Galaxia was always intended to be the Light of Hope as we see her soaring into the depths of the universe. Which also means Cosmos was never intended to be involved in the show from the early beginnings.

The fact that we also have a naked winged Usagi in the ending sequence alludes that the ending of 200 was something they were going for from the start.

Some things that went under the cutting board were:
Apparently Chaos (Sailor Chaos?) surging from the depths of the Earth a la Evil Beryl


This maniacal figure grinning which I suppose is intended to be Chaos. Perhaps they had intended for Chaos to be a figure just like Metallia which would have been awakened in the middle of the season after being offered Star Seeds?


But the major rejected storyline is what we can assume is the Tenkei Kingdom being reconstructed.

This kovil like structure which I presume is inspired by the real-life Prambanan temple has likewise 3 main temples devoted to the Trimurti - Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma would logically represent the 3 Starlights.
Prambanan - Wikipedia

As for Galaxia, I think the Star Seed she was searching for was always the Light of Hope just like in S, Tomoe was searching for the Grail and later a specific Pure Heart and Nehenelia was searching for the Golden Mirror.

The fact that Mamoru is shown to be immediately attacked also perhaps was meant to lead the viewer into thinking that Galaxia was not simply interested in Star Seeds of Senshis as when she first appears she never mentions the term Senshi.
Moreover in Japanese, Shin no Star Seed can be meant to be singular and specific as well.

It does kinda get murky in the middle (like always with post R because of the loads of characters to screen in) but I think the anime staff did a better job in trying to deliver a cohesive story with leaving the path open to any way they wanted, should they have had to change things in the story along the way, while still keeping the plotholes and inconsistencies to a minimum.

Compared to the adulated manga whereby Takeuchi is probably writing the story as she is drawing the pages with the amount of pages contradicting each other.

That reminds me... where were Ami's mother, Minako's parents or Granpa Hino when they were captured by Rubeus/ killed by the Animamates in the manga? :mischief: Why the manga fans haven't thought about that? :siren::P I suppose they use their imagination like 'Usagi phoned and told them they were having several pyjama parties for some weeks.'
Not to mention Takeuchi tries to sell us the idea that the clique of Usagi are super stars at the school.
So nobody was fazed when the 300 IQ genius girl, the popular girl of the flower club, the head priestess of that super well known shrine, the star athlete of the volley ball club have all gone missing in the school in the middle of the day?????

Moreover, Takeuchi creates that moronic scene of a teacher asking about Minako's absence meaning the school does know they are no where to be found but I guess their parents are completely fine with it.

Later on Usagi takes Artemis home and we have this unnecessary scene of Usagi saying Minako has a 'situation at home', I guess her parents don't give a damn about their daughter.
This of course, is to highlight UsaMe's deep and rooted sadness instead of the tragedy of Minako's passing because of course it has to be about Usagi...
 
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The monster of the week/stand-alone schema is over-hated in my opinion.

The OG Scooby-Doo is one of my favorite cartoons ever and it's exactly because of this MotW component.
Same thing with early seasons of a lot of shows.


There was a lot of drama on Charmed.

I'll put it in spoilers :P
Spoiler: show

But essentially, Charmed was created by Constance M. Burge who wanted the show to focus on magic and sisterly bonds as she based the main protagonists - 3 sisters; Prue (Shannen Doherty), Piper (Holly Marie Combs) and Phoebe (Alyssa Milano) on herself and her sisters.

Doherty (who passed away last month) was contracted first and was considered the main protagonist of the show, she would even go and direct as early as the 2nd season finale.
Doherty, who was known to be very passionate and voice her opinions, and who was best friends with Sarah Michelle Geller of Buffy probably saw the potential the show had and wanted the tone to be go more serious and dark.
The other executive producer, Bran Kern, wanted to focus on romantic interests and skimpy outfits - they butted heads a lot.
Over the course of the 3rd season (which would also be Doherty's last), tensions between her and Milano grew to a high, so much that the producers had to reportedly reduce to a minimum their characters' interactions despite them being sisters on screen.
Basically, Milano bamboozled Doherty and threatened to sue if Doherty wasn't fired (and it's safe to assume she was backed by Kern considering she was his favorite).
Doherty, despite directing the 3rd season's finale - All Hell Breaks Loose - one of the series' most intense episodes ever, was reportedly later fired over the phone.
This firing would eventually tarnish forever her career.

Rose Mcgowan would be brought into the scene to play the 4th long lost sister and does an extremely good job! However, Constance M Burge would also be bullied into being a simple consultant over her own show before departing completely by the end.

The show was envisioned with Doherty as the main selling point and Doherty, who was also best friends with Combs, encouraged her to audition too.
Even though Combs wasn't retained, Doherty went and said that if Combs wasn't on the show, she wouldn't be either forcing the producers to hire her.
So we can say Combs was loyal to Doherty. After her firing, Combs also wanted out but because of contract obligations, she was - by her own words - blackmailed into staying in the show with the producers claiming they would take away all her revenue be it from an acting gig or if she was in a faraway town working at a grocery store.

Enter season 5 and Combs and Milano become... PRODUCERS!
The show turns into a self-serving fest with the character of Phoebe becoming the best creature that ever lived - she is claimed to be the most beautiful, outstanding, gentle, kind blablabla, goes out with the richest boyfriends ever, all the villains are scared of her, she is super successful (over being a love columnist at a random newspaper - in the season opener we discover she literally has her face plastered over giant billboards it's crazy!).
Phoebe does the most selfish things ever and it's always the other person's (typically a man) fault. I kid you not, the characters actually do say it's the other's fault!

Rose Mcgowan, whose character remained the only likable one because her writing wasn't interfered by the 'producers', in the recent years revealed that every time the show would be renewed, she would cry because working with Milano was a nightmare.
Apparently, Doherty too cried when she knew the show was renewed and had to continue to work with Milano.

Piper on the other hand, I guess because Combs never wanted to be on the show by now, turns into a snarky character - a mother, now she forever stays at home frustrated that she got magical kids, commands everyone around, always annoyed at her husband and asks him to go do chores (basically in Combs and Kern's minds, a strong female figure is a condescending husband with boobs).

Past season 5, it's essentially the Phoe-ME era :P

:loltext: Alyssa sounds like that person I used to work with. Loves to boss people around and hijacks her bosses orders so she can boss other subordinates. :lol:

And I thought all this time Shannon was the problem child. I didn't knew Rose had problems with Alyssa as well.
 
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I got a bunch of pictures for the 2nd S episode [did we already talk about that one ........? I think we did but I don't feel like going back to look]
 
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BTW, the actor of Motoki in PGSM has also done a fully nude scene in an erotic movie after PGSM, tho I haven't heard the actor of Mamoru in PGSM having done that. lol
Tanka???? :cthulhu:

I've always thought that actor has aged better than Shibue.

I could never quite make sense of that scene. I see a city (Tokyo I guess) in ruins, just like in the final episodes of Stars, and a black dome bursting open, letting Chaos escape, symbolising that Earth has also fallen under Galaxia’s rule.

Galaxia was always intended to be the Light of Hope as we see her soaring into the depths of the universe. Which also means Cosmos was never intended to be involved in the show from the early beginnings.
Now that you mention it, she does look quite a lot like Galaxia—at least the hair does. I hadn't picked up on that detail before.
If you ask me, when you look at the Materials Collection art book, you'll notice Sailor Cosmos doesn't have any detailed description for the anime team compared to the other characters. There’s just a sketch of an uncoloured illustration, and she doesn’t even appear alongside Chibi Chibi’s detailed designs (which is odd, considering she’s supposedly a key character in the plot). It makes you think she was a last-minute creation. And that's probably why they had to come up with a different origin story for the anime.
And of course, Toei gets blamed, while Naoko, who might've never actually provided concrete info about the character, is somehow the innocent victim in all of this. Toei's the villain, apparently—the ones who cruelly kept Sailor Cosmos off the screen.

Moreover in Japanese, Shin no Star Seed can be meant to be singular and specific as well.
I reckon the different translations have probably messed with parts of the plot too. In a lot of dubs, it's likely been translated as 'the search for a true star seed' instead of 'the search for the true star seed.' Those little changes do matter, like translating 'kokoro' as either 'mind' or 'heart,' when really, the word has a much broader meaning—it can completely change the sense of a scene or line.

And honestly, how could you forget my hubby???!?!?!?! Those lips... :kiss:




The shadows....the eyes!!!!!! THE EYES!!!!! WHERE IS THIS IN COSMOS????!?!??!?

WHERE??!?!?!? In Cosmos we only have Mamo with a poker face looking at all the brides (one of them a little girl) he had to deal with................... it's anything except romantic.........
 

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BTW, the actor of Motoki in PGSM has also done a fully nude scene in an erotic movie after PGSM, tho I haven't heard the actor of Mamoru in PGSM having done that. lol
I’m interested in some reference about this :kiss: link or something like that, I need to have a better view of that situation.
I've personally seen that situation back then, but can't find any image links, e.g. a side view of his naked butt, now. :(

Yup, in which he stars:

https://auctions.afimg.jp/m1075900825/ya/image/m1075900825.2.jpg

https://auctions.afimg.jp/m1075900825/ya/image/m1075900825.3.jpg

It's an erotic but artistic film, not outright J-porn. :)
 
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Now that you mention it, she does look quite a lot like Galaxia—at least the hair does. I hadn't picked up on that detail before.
If you ask me, when you look at the Materials Collection art book, you'll notice Sailor Cosmos doesn't have any detailed description for the anime team compared to the other characters. There’s just a sketch of an uncoloured illustration, and she doesn’t even appear alongside Chibi Chibi’s detailed designs (which is odd, considering she’s supposedly a key character in the plot). It makes you think she was a last-minute creation. And that's probably why they had to come up with a different origin story for the anime.
And of course, Toei gets blamed, while Naoko, who might've never actually provided concrete info about the character, is somehow the innocent victim in all of this. Toei's the villain, apparently—the ones who cruelly kept Sailor Cosmos off the screen.
Igarashi and Takeuchi have an initial planned plot for Stars, TOEI and Bandai rejected Usagi being Cosmos and changed it, I think that is also the reason why the Eternal outfits of other Senshi are removed since it is related to Usagi being Cosmos.
I think Takeuchi should just draw and write the initial plot she planned for the manga instead of scrapping it because that plot gives Usagi more agency rather than being forced on being Cosmos, I think Naoko should not get upset at the script or just put the manga on hiatus until after the final episode airs.
 

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Igarashi and Takeuchi have an initial planned plot for Stars, TOEI and Bandai rejected Usagi being Cosmos and changed it, I think that is also the reason why the Eternal outfits of other Senshi are removed since it is related to Usagi being Cosmos.
I think Takeuchi should just draw and write the initial plot she planned for the manga instead of scrapping it because that plot gives Usagi more agency rather than being forced on being Cosmos, I think Naoko should not get upset at the script or just put the manga on hiatus until after the final episode airs.
Ad nauseam. :yawn:
 
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The monster of the week/stand-alone schema is over-hated in my opinion.
The OG Scooby-Doo is one of my favorite cartoons ever and it's exactly because of this MotW component.
Same thing with early seasons of a lot of shows.
I agree. On my thread about whether people focus too much on the plot, it was pointed out that the Scooby Doo series was much, much shorter than Sailor Moon. It's a fair point, but I still think the MoTW structure is one of the things that makes Sailor Moon so enjoyable and it adds to its replay value, IMO (especially when compared to Crystal).

There was a lot of drama on Charmed.
I'll put it in spoilers :P
On the one hand, now I'm happy I never too the time to watch Charmed. But on the other hand, this is exactly the kind of juicy behind the scenes stories that I just adore. Maybe I'm a big gossip at heart, but I really wish we had a book or a documentary spilling all the beans of the Sailor Moon franchise in the 90s, and I mean one that delved deeper into the conflicts Takeuchi might have had with TOEI, explored the motivations for the changes in series directors, this sort of thing. But I think we'll never get one.

The fact that Mamoru is shown to be immediately attacked also perhaps was meant to lead the viewer into thinking that Galaxia was not simply interested in Star Seeds of Senshis as when she first appears she never mentions the term Senshi.
Moreover in Japanese, Shin no Star Seed can be meant to be singular and specific as well.
I wonder if, Japanese language ambiguity aside (just like @Lady Pen said), the whole "Galaxia's plans make no sense" stems from fans reinterpreting the anime in the light of the manga (as if, because manga Galaxia is after the Senshi's Star Seeds, then anime Galaxia must be after them as well, which is not necessarily the case).

Not to mention Takeuchi tries to sell us the idea that the clique of Usagi are super stars at the school.
So nobody was fazed when the 300 IQ genius girl, the popular girl of the flower club, the head priestess of that super well known shrine, the star athlete of the volley ball club have all gone missing in the school in the middle of the day?????
Moreover, Takeuchi creates that moronic scene of a teacher asking about Minako's absence meaning the school does know they are no where to be found but I guess their parents are completely fine with it.
The more details you add, the harder it gets to keep consistency, and in Takeuchi's case, it obviously backfires. I think the vagueness of the anime is the lesser of two evils.

If you ask me, when you look at the Materials Collection art book, you'll notice Sailor Cosmos doesn't have any detailed description for the anime team compared to the other characters. There’s just a sketch of an uncoloured illustration, and she doesn’t even appear alongside Chibi Chibi’s detailed designs (which is odd, considering she’s supposedly a key character in the plot). It makes you think she was a last-minute creation. And that's probably why they had to come up with a different origin story for the anime.
And of course, Toei gets blamed, while Naoko, who might've never actually provided concrete info about the character, is somehow the innocent victim in all of this. Toei's the villain, apparently—the ones who cruelly kept Sailor Cosmos off the screen.
That actually makes a lot of sense and, considering how Naoko used to work back then, I'd bet this is pretty close to (if not exactly) what happened.
 
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Episode 200 Final Part ~ The Final Goodbye :wow:
::love::


It's always hilarious to me that Eternal tried to pull this picture and to only create a plothole :P

The cats were here since the beginning.













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I could never quite make sense of that scene. I see a city (Tokyo I guess) in ruins, just like in the final episodes of Stars, and a black dome bursting open, letting Chaos escape, symbolising that Earth has also fallen under Galaxia’s rule.
I guess it's symbolizing the end of the season.

Who knows perhaps the initial idea was for Chaos to burst out of the Earth taking possession of Galaxia's body - which is basically what happens in #200 except Chaos is a concept not a character.

It greatly reminds me of the Classic finale with Beryl bursting out of a flower (which btw is one of the most stunning Sailor Moon scenes ever! Sailor Moon + Horror = Forever the perfect sauce!!!)


Now that you mention it, she does look quite a lot like Galaxia—at least the hair does. I hadn't picked up on that detail before.
If you ask me, when you look at the Materials Collection art book, you'll notice Sailor Cosmos doesn't have any detailed description for the anime team compared to the other characters. There’s just a sketch of an uncoloured illustration, and she doesn’t even appear alongside Chibi Chibi’s detailed designs (which is odd, considering she’s supposedly a key character in the plot). It makes you think she was a last-minute creation. And that's probably why they had to come up with a different origin story for the anime.
And of course, Toei gets blamed, while Naoko, who might've never actually provided concrete info about the character, is somehow the innocent victim in all of this. Toei's the villain, apparently—the ones who cruelly kept Sailor Cosmos off the screen.
It makes no doubt for me that it's Galaxia and she was always intended to be the legendary senshi and Light of Hope.

Remember the Openings were never shy of major spoilers; Classic already had Sailor Moon becoming Princess Serenity, R had Sailor Moon in turn becoming Neo Queen Serenity as well. S had butterflies, which are the motif of Super Sailor Moon, all around the characters and SuperS had all of the girls posing on the lotus version of the Silver Crystal as well as featuring Elysion (all of which we can say were originally planned but ended up scrapped).
In Stars, however at any point in the Opening is there even a slight hint of Cosmos (or Chibi Chibi) despite updating the shadow versions of the Starlights (which featured the original sans ponytail design) and showing the Tenkei Kingdom.

WHERE??!?!?!? In Cosmos we only have Mamo with a poker face looking at all the brides (one of them a little girl) he had to deal with................... it's anything except romantic.........
The poor guy has the PPF syndrome that can even affect males! Which in his case is the Purinsu Poker Face Syndrome :P



The 90s anime reaction to seeing the Crystermos adaptation desperately trying to be as iconic as it:
 
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Another hint of the ending of #200, we see Usagi spreading her arms and releasing Star Seeds by the support of the girls, as her light embraces all of Tokyo,








Another thing to look at is the 'All for One, One for All' scene (Oh, Tomoya-kun, I'll forever be bitter that you didn't include this in the movies' Openings!)
For one it's obviously very similar to the same sequence that is used in the final Opening of Saint Seiya,


The Stars Opening has another mirror image to Saint Seiya's final ending as well,


But what is more interesting is what this sequence reveals in itself.
First, of course Usagi extends her hand to Rei (best friends forever) but it shows the girls diving into a sort of abyss of dark purple color.
This sort of dark aurora is Galaxia's motif and as they all join hands, the dark aurora is purified and they all release a cleansing light.









Considering how prominently the Inners are featured in the Opening, the last time they were this heavily featured was in R - I have to wonder if the Starlights were only planned to be minor characters in the beginning and the focus was going to return to the Inners and their friendship akin to the Classic season.

Which what the Nehenelia arc basically was.
However, perhaps because this mini arc, despite it's heavy focus on friendship, action and dark themes didn't elevate the viewership much, Bandai quickly backpaddled and demanded for the Starlights (the new characters) to be the main attraction.
Chibi-Usa was already out considering her focus on the SuperS season didn't sell the toys.

Which in turn would explain the Starlights original designs in the 1st version of the Opening that the Nehenelia arc featured:

It's bizarre that the only thing Bandai was pesky about - their ponytails - isn't present here.

The fact that the 1st version of the transformations and attacks of the Starlights are very lackluster and even don't feature the toys they were supposed to be advertising would also be explained by this sudden change of direction.

Last thing to note is the logo of the season:


Of course, we see Usagi's Star Seed with the moon motif, the ribbon representing Sailors and the feather representing the Light of Hope.
However the logo also features two extra Star Seeds, who could they be?
Galaxia and Kakyuu?
 

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The monster of the week/stand-alone schema is over-hated in my opinion.

The OG Scooby-Doo is one of my favorite cartoons ever and it's exactly because of this MotW component.
Same thing with early seasons of a lot of shows.


There was a lot of drama on Charmed.

I'll put it in spoilers :P
Spoiler: show

But essentially, Charmed was created by Constance M. Burge who wanted the show to focus on magic and sisterly bonds as she based the main protagonists - 3 sisters; Prue (Shannen Doherty), Piper (Holly Marie Combs) and Phoebe (Alyssa Milano) on herself and her sisters.

Doherty (who passed away last month) was contracted first and was considered the main protagonist of the show, she would even go and direct as early as the 2nd season finale.
Doherty, who was known to be very passionate and voice her opinions, and who was best friends with Sarah Michelle Geller of Buffy probably saw the potential the show had and wanted the tone to be go more serious and dark.
The other executive producer, Bran Kern, wanted to focus on romantic interests and skimpy outfits - they butted heads a lot.
Over the course of the 3rd season (which would also be Doherty's last), tensions between her and Milano grew to a high, so much that the producers had to reportedly reduce to a minimum their characters' interactions despite them being sisters on screen.
Basically, Milano bamboozled Doherty and threatened to sue if Doherty wasn't fired (and it's safe to assume she was backed by Kern considering she was his favorite).
Doherty, despite directing the 3rd season's finale - All Hell Breaks Loose - one of the series' most intense episodes ever, was reportedly later fired over the phone.
This firing would eventually tarnish forever her career.

Rose Mcgowan would be brought into the scene to play the 4th long lost sister and does an extremely good job! However, Constance M Burge would also be bullied into being a simple consultant over her own show before departing completely by the end.

The show was envisioned with Doherty as the main selling point and Doherty, who was also best friends with Combs, encouraged her to audition too.
Even though Combs wasn't retained, Doherty went and said that if Combs wasn't on the show, she wouldn't be either forcing the producers to hire her.
So we can say Combs was loyal to Doherty. After her firing, Combs also wanted out but because of contract obligations, she was - by her own words - blackmailed into staying in the show with the producers claiming they would take away all her revenue be it from an acting gig or if she was in a faraway town working at a grocery store.

Enter season 5 and Combs and Milano become... PRODUCERS!
The show turns into a self-serving fest with the character of Phoebe becoming the best creature that ever lived - she is claimed to be the most beautiful, outstanding, gentle, kind blablabla, goes out with the richest boyfriends ever, all the villains are scared of her, she is super successful (over being a love columnist at a random newspaper - in the season opener we discover she literally has her face plastered over giant billboards it's crazy!).
Phoebe does the most selfish things ever and it's always the other person's (typically a man) fault. I kid you not, the characters actually do say it's the other's fault!

Rose Mcgowan, whose character remained the only likable one because her writing wasn't interfered by the 'producers', in the recent years revealed that every time the show would be renewed, she would cry because working with Milano was a nightmare.
Apparently, Doherty too cried when she knew the show was renewed and had to continue to work with Milano.

Piper on the other hand, I guess because Combs never wanted to be on the show by now, turns into a snarky character - a mother, now she forever stays at home frustrated that she got magical kids, commands everyone around, always annoyed at her husband and asks him to go do chores (basically in Combs and Kern's minds, a strong female figure is a condescending husband with boobs).

Past season 5, it's essentially the Phoe-ME era :P

By the last 2 seasons, every other person of the magical world has to beg them to help them because oh, they are so great (barf!)
At one point it even becomes ludicrous when they even argue with beings akin to primordial that they 'did a lot of good and they deserve to be given what they are asking for'.

In the last season, the Angel of Destiny has to literally kill Piper's husband because they have become so selfish and lazy in order to 'motivate' them into being heroes (sounds familiar?).

Because of Milano's ego, Phoebe turns from being the most wholesome character to the most horrible one.
Phoebe S1: 'Come on guys! We are witches! We have to help people! That's what we are!'
Phoebe S8: 'Oh honey... I have so much work... If we help people, demons are gonna come after us and we won't be able to help people... Sorry.'

One of Phoebe's opening lines in the later seasons is, I kid you not, 'I can't go out saving innocents because I have dates! LOTS AND LOTS OF DATES!'

If you are interested, check out Alison Preglers videos, they are great!



While I do think some things changed over the course of the season, I don't think there was much change over Galaxia's character.

As we see from the very first version of the Opening,
Galaxia was always intended to have been possessed by Chaos as we see her seed being corrupted and taking the form of a winged demon.


Galaxia was always intended to be the Light of Hope as we see her soaring into the depths of the universe. Which also means Cosmos was never intended to be involved in the show from the early beginnings.

The fact that we also have a naked winged Usagi in the ending sequence alludes that the ending of 200 was something they were going for from the start.

Some things that went under the cutting board were:
Apparently Chaos (Sailor Chaos?) surging from the depths of the Earth a la Evil Beryl


This maniacal figure grinning which I suppose is intended to be Chaos. Perhaps they had intended for Chaos to be a figure just like Metallia which would have been awakened in the middle of the season after being offered Star Seeds?


But the major rejected storyline is what we can assume is the Tenkei Kingdom being reconstructed.

This kovil like structure which I presume is inspired by the real-life Prambanan temple has likewise 3 main temples devoted to the Trimurti - Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma would logically represent the 3 Starlights.
Prambanan - Wikipedia

As for Galaxia, I think the Star Seed she was searching for was always the Light of Hope just like in S, Tomoe was searching for the Grail and later a specific Pure Heart and Nehenelia was searching for the Golden Mirror.

The fact that Mamoru is shown to be immediately attacked also perhaps was meant to lead the viewer into thinking that Galaxia was not simply interested in Star Seeds of Senshis as when she first appears she never mentions the term Senshi.
Moreover in Japanese, Shin no Star Seed can be meant to be singular and specific as well.

It does kinda get murky in the middle (like always with post R because of the loads of characters to screen in) but I think the anime staff did a better job in trying to deliver a cohesive story with leaving the path open to any way they wanted, should they have had to change things in the story along the way, while still keeping the plotholes and inconsistencies to a minimum.

Compared to the adulated manga whereby Takeuchi is probably writing the story as she is drawing the pages with the amount of pages contradicting each other.


Not to mention Takeuchi tries to sell us the idea that the clique of Usagi are super stars at the school.
So nobody was fazed when the 300 IQ genius girl, the popular girl of the flower club, the head priestess of that super well known shrine, the star athlete of the volley ball club have all gone missing in the school in the middle of the day?????

Moreover, Takeuchi creates that moronic scene of a teacher asking about Minako's absence meaning the school does know they are no where to be found but I guess their parents are completely fine with it.

Later on Usagi takes Artemis home and we have this unnecessary scene of Usagi saying Minako has a 'situation at home', I guess her parents don't give a damn about their daughter.
This of course, is to highlight UsaMe's deep and rooted sadness instead of the tragedy of Minako's passing because of course it has to be about Usagi...
What's the Tenkei Kingdom (gosh I'm stupid)