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These following frames are GORGEOUS to look at and very dynamic.
One of the things that really stick out of Takahashi's design are the butterfly shape he gave to the bows.














Animation wise, however, it completely loses to the 90s version.

It's not badly animated or lacks frames or anything but while the 90s version looks so elegant and smooth, here it's just looks quick and that's it.
There's no mysticism in it.
Compared to the 90s version, you won't even notice Mercury is supposed to be drawing a circle.
Not to mention, the water stream she generates looks so puny... it looks more like thunder or ribbons than surging water.
Look at the 'wind' in her hair, skirt, bows... it's barely moving while in the 90s version she looks like she's in a hair commercial!

Recently, I've gone back to the 3rd season and while it's still the best overall animated set of the Crystermos adaptation... it has already aged so much!
It's already looks dated! Just like Eternal does and soon just like Cosmos will look as well.
Aside from the henshins of Mercury/Mars and the attacks of Venus/Jupiter (mainly because of their new choreography), every other stock has lost it's charm for me.
It's still well done but compared to the 90s version which even today look phenomenal, both on the art and animation, the Crystal III ones don't.

Crystal III also has these very toned-down colors.
It's definitely better that Crystal I-II and Eternal had the perfect cold but eye-popping colors however those of Crystal III look so dark and kinda 'lifeless' which inadvertently makes it look even more old.
The timing of the animation is just really off for the Crystal version, too. I think what makes the 90s version fluid despite probably having a similar amount of frames to Crystal’s is that the key frames are linked together in a way that makes sense with the motion and momentum of the attack. You don't need a load of inbetween frames if your foundation is solid.
 

Talentless Fool

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The timing of the animation is just really off for the Crystal version, too. I think what makes the 90s version fluid despite probably having a similar amount of frames to Crystal’s is that the key frames are linked together in a way that makes sense with the motion and momentum of the attack. You don't need a load of inbetween frames if your foundation is solid.
Exactly there's no weight nor gravity to the actions so it just looks 'quick and done'.
Why apply the 12 principles of animation when it just looks eye catching I guess.

Not to mention, the 90s version has lots of subtilties in the movement like the water ball has rubbery physics or when Mercury stands back up, she does a cutesy motion with her left hand, all of which are absent in the Crystal version.

Which I don't understand why they simply didn't do an original version for the Aqua Mirage instead of copying that of the 90s.

This portion looks good.









It's smooth but... why exactly are we seeing this?
In the overall sequence, it kinda feels out of place. They included this portion because the 90s version also has it but while the 90s version seamlessly incorporates it, Crystal doesn't.











Again nothing wrong animation-wise and no frames lacking.
In fact the portion of the ball ascending is more fluid than in the 90s however it's too quick.
The 90s version has just so many more smaller things in there.

There's a whole portion of the attack missing even!
And God those 3D effects are garbage looking!
We didn't need it but Toei since the late 90s has had a weird obsession with 3D :wry:

Also, see?
Trying to imitate the feel of the manga doesn't look good in anime.
Takahashi has the most detailed bodies of the 3 styles of Crystermos however when it comes to wide shots, he goes back to the feel of the manga trying to replicate the 'croquis'-esque aesthetic of the manga.
When Itoh did it in the 90s, it wasn't good.
When Takahashi did it, it wasn't good.
Takeuchi's style is just isn't good looking in anime format.
 
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Lady Pen

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I really wish I loved Crystal too. I think I would have at least liked it, if it had pleased me aesthetically or narratively. Unfortunately, it did neither.

But anyway, the remasters of the 90s anime are terrible. The pink tint is bad but at least it sort of fits the mood of the show, while the cyan tint in S and especially SuperS, as well as the dull colours of Stars, are even worse. Only the second half of Sailor Moon Classic and the R season look minimally decent, it's a shame.

And I agree, as much as I don't like Naoko Takeuchi's anatomy, panelling and storytelling, her work does have a dream-like vibe to which Crystal failed to make justice.
I would like to add something to this. One of the things Crystal fans love saying is that the reboot has a similar art style as Naoko's. But if you have a look at the backgrounds you'll see that Crysternal had that generic digital painting featuring in other random animes. IIRC only Cosmos replicates Naoko's art style, from the backgrounds to the outlines of the characters whose lines gets thicker and thinner until it disappears, given the drawings that ethereal effect, thanks to Tomoya by the way. The 90's anime has also that style in the backgrounds, even replicates some screentones Naoko's assistants stuck on the manga pages.
 

Talentless Fool

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IIRC only Cosmos replicates Naoko's art style, from the backgrounds to the outlines of the characters whose lines gets thicker and thinner until it disappears, given the drawings that ethereal effect, thanks to Tomoya by the way. The 90's anime has also that style in the backgrounds, even replicates some screentones Naoko's assistants stuck on the manga pages.
Meh, honestly I don't really understand what is the ethereal effect of Takeuchi.
She never draws backgounds so it feels that the characters are eternally lost in the fog with their hair in the wind with similar poses.
I don't think Cosmos does that good of a job on the background art.
From what I remember the sunset scene(s) are really good, the beginning of the 2nd movie as well which is at early dawn and... the front of Galaxia's cathedral and the Cauldron?
Everything else is the same as usual to be honest.

RORRINGUUU HAAARRRT... VAIBRAAATIOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Look at how amazing this is!!!
Go Venus!


Tadano did an excellent job here!
This is how it's done, Crystal! Watch and learn.









::love::::love::::love::
 

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I would like to add something to this. One of the things Crystal fans love saying is that the reboot has a similar art style as Naoko's. But if you have a look at the backgrounds you'll see that Crysternal had that generic digital painting featuring in other random animes. IIRC only Cosmos replicates Naoko's art style, from the backgrounds to the outlines of the characters whose lines gets thicker and thinner until it disappears, given the drawings that ethereal effect, thanks to Tomoya by the way. The 90's anime has also that style in the backgrounds, even replicates some screentones Naoko's assistants stuck on the manga pages.
 

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Exactly there's no weight nor gravity to the actions so it just looks 'quick and done'.
Why apply the 12 principles of animation when it just looks eye catching I guess.

Not to mention, the 90s version has lots of subtilties in the movement like the water ball has rubbery physics or when Mercury stands back up, she does a cutesy motion with her left hand, all of which are absent in the Crystal version.

Which I don't understand why they simply didn't do an original version for the Aqua Mirage instead of copying that of the 90s.

This portion looks good.









It's smooth but... why exactly are we seeing this?
In the overall sequence, it kinda feels out of place. They included this portion because the 90s version also has it but while the 90s version seamlessly incorporates it, Crystal doesn't.











Again nothing wrong animation-wise and no frames lacking.
In fact the portion of the ball ascending is more fluid than in the 90s however it's too quick.
The 90s version has just so many more smaller things in there.

There's a whole portion of the attack missing even!
And God those 3D effects are garbage looking!
We didn't need it but Toei since the late 90s has had a weird obsession with 3D :wry:

Also, see?
Trying to imitate the feel of the manga doesn't look good in anime.
Takahashi has the most detailed bodies of the 3 styles of Crystermos however when it comes to wide shots, he goes back to the feel of the manga trying to replicate the 'croquis'-esque aesthetic of the manga.
When Itoh did it in the 90s, it wasn't good.
When Takahashi did it, it wasn't good.
Takeuchi's style is just isn't good looking in anime format.
LOL when they copy gorgeous things 1:1 they look so out of place.
 

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Yes, you will have to break them both down for me.
I know you hate doing that, but it is necessary to teach my peasant eyes so my peasant mouth doesn't spread more lies.:googly:
Yes, peasant!
You shall learn to mend your filthy ways!!!

But first, we should take a look at Haruka's quick attack during the S Opening.
Not only it's very quick but along with Moon's BIG HEAD and the credits/lyrics, it's difficult to really decipher what's happening.







Either this was an earlier but scrapped idea of Uranus' attack or perhaps it was supposed to be her upgraded, Talisman attack regardless, here she demonstrates a skill she never shows in the show.





Such beautiful art by Itoh!







She seems to be performing the typical Kamaitachi, wind cutter move.
True to her name as Senshi of the Wind, it seems she was originally planned to have air-based, slicing techniques capable of even cutting through hard rock.

I wonder why they changed it.



Seemed quite the OP move.
 

saintfighteraqua

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Yes, peasant!
You shall learn to mend your filthy ways!!!

But first, we should take a look at Haruka's quick attack during the S Opening.
Not only it's very quick but along with Moon's BIG HEAD and the credits/lyrics, it's difficult to really decipher what's happening.







Either this was an earlier but scrapped idea of Uranus' attack or perhaps it was supposed to be her upgraded, Talisman attack regardless, here she demonstrates a skill she never shows in the show.





Such beautiful art by Itoh!







She seems to be performing the typical Kamaitachi, wind cutter move.
True to her name as Senshi of the Wind, it seems she was originally planned to have air-based, slicing techniques capable of even cutting through hard rock.

I wonder why they changed it.



Seemed quite the OP move.
The S opening attack animations are so good but too brief. WE WERE ROBBED by Toei being cheap.
All of the inner attacks were their planet power attacks and for Mars, Mercury and Jupiter were very different from what they'd had so far. I'll never not be bitter, even if I sort of understand...if they'd pushed for these attacks to be included, I can almost guarantee the rest of the season would have suffered. I'll be honest, they could have killed the S movie and dumped all that budget into more/better attacks and I think I'd be fine with it.

Move your head, Usagi, this deserves a clear view.
 

Talentless Fool

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The S opening attack animations are so good but too brief. WE WERE ROBBED by Toei being cheap.
All of the inner attacks were their planet power attacks and for Mars, Mercury and Jupiter were very different from what they'd had so far. I'll never not be bitter, even if I sort of understand...if they'd pushed for these attacks to be included, I can almost guarantee the rest of the season would have suffered. I'll be honest, they could have killed the S movie and dumped all that budget into more/better attacks and I think I'd be fine with it.

Move your head, Usagi, this deserves a clear view.
The S attacks are such a mystery.

I would suppose that if Ikuhara included them in the Opening, then he had to know how much budget he was gonna need.
And yeah, when you think about it there's a LOT:
- 2 attacks + transformations for Moon
- 3 completely new transformations + attacks for the Outers + possible Talisman attacks
- 4 revamped Planet transformations for the Inners
- 1 transformation & attack for Chibi-Moon

However, I do think they would have been able to pull it through.
Sure, it might not have had been as long as the R attacks but back in Classic, they did do Jupiter's henshin + attack and Moon's new attack + new Opening & Ending all for one episode!

I think that perhaps near midway in the season, Sailor Moon's rating may have declined, perhaps not so much in views but moreso in the merchandising ( more so reason for the soft reboot next season) and Bandai/Toei were like, 'yeah, we were suppose to give you guys budget for some new stuff but... nah, we're not gonna go there...
I mean, Bandai not banking on the Lip Rods of the Inners? No reason unless those of UraNep didn't sell as well as they expected.

I really wonder how it would have happened.
Surely it would have occurred after each girl had her Heart Crystal episode (Rei's is the season opener!) and in R they had 2 upgrade episodes, hell Ami even got 4; Shabon Spray Freezing, Aqua Illusion, Bertheir confrontation and Evil School.
Would it have occurred after the Grail's appearance?
Would that have given the Inners their upgrade?
It did happen in the middle of the season but if suddenly they had a change of budget that would explain why it occurred so late and even why UraNep's henshins are quite late as well.

I wonder if there are some storyboards of those attacks.
If they were planned, then some of them might have been worked on quite early but were scrapped.
 
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The S opening attack animations are so good but too brief. WE WERE ROBBED by Toei being cheap.
All of the inner attacks were their planet power attacks and for Mars, Mercury and Jupiter were very different from what they'd had so far. I'll never not be bitter, even if I sort of understand...if they'd pushed for these attacks to be included, I can almost guarantee the rest of the season would have suffered. I'll be honest, they could have killed the S movie and dumped all that budget into more/better attacks and I think I'd be fine with it.

Move your head, Usagi, this deserves a clear view.
The S movie's nothing to write home about anyway. It would've been nice if we got these attacks + Chronos Typhoon and perhaps more transformations instead.
 

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The S attacks are such a mystery.

I would suppose that if Ikuhara included them in the Opening, then he had to know how much budget he was gonna need.
And yeah, when you think about it there's a LOT:
- 2 attacks + transformations for Moon
- 3 completely new transformations + attacks for the Outers + possible Talisman attacks
- 4 revamped Planet transformations for the Inners
- 1 transformation & attack for Chibi-Moon

However, I do think they would have been able to pull it through.
Sure, it might not have had been as long as the R attacks but back in Classic, they did do Jupiter's henshin + attack and Moon's new attack + new Opening & Ending all for one episode!

I think that perhaps near midway in the season, Sailor Moon's rating may have declined, perhaps not so much in views but moreso in the merchandising ( more so reason for the soft reboot next season) and Bandai/Toei were like, 'yeah, we were suppose to give you guys budget for some new stuff but... nah, we're not gonna go there...
I mean, Bandai not banking on the Lip Rods of the Inners? No reason unless those of UraNep didn't sell as well as they expected.

I really wonder how it would have happened.
Surely it would have occurred after each girl had her Heart Crystal episode (Rei's is the season opener!) and in R they had 2 upgrade episodes, hell Ami even got 4; Shabon Spray Freezing, Aqua Illusion, Bertheir confrontation and Evil School.
Would it have occurred after the Grail's appearance?
Would that have given the Inners their upgrade?
It did happen in the middle of the season but if suddenly they had a change of budget that would explain why it occurred so late and even why UraNep's henshins are quite late as well.

I wonder if there are some storyboards of those attacks.
If they were planned, then some of them might have been worked on quite early but were scrapped.
I think it should have been possible, as well. I mean, surely the amount of animation and budget used in one of the more filler-like episodes could have gone to that...but maybe they were contractually obliged.

Maybe a budget cut happened and that's why we got less episodes this season, overall.
I know Ikuhara supposedly had to fight for the outers to even get henshin sequences animated. Imagine if they'd gone instead with what they did to Chibi Moon or the first transformations of the Starlights.
I guess it could have always been worse.
It might also be why the last 3 (4?!) Witches 5 got cut down to 1 episode each. If they'd gotten those 5-8 episodes like the previous seasons, there would have been more time...then again, Mimete and Eudial were just easier to adapt for MOD type episodes, I suppose.

I think it would have been best if it had happened pre-Grail...but that would have really pushed it with how late Minako's heart episode was (wasn't it the episode directly before the Grail episodes?)

At least we got them animated in Crystal. *the monkey's paw gives the middle finger*
 

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Ok, I've only been able to find 1 Japanese article describing the 90s anime World Shaking.
So what Uranus does is she assembles and concentrates 'high air pressure' (超高圧) into a ball of light which she strikes the ground with.
When it hits the enemy, it destroys it from the inside akin to an earthquake.

As we see here, Uranus gathers energy (thus the high air pressure) into her palm.







Look at how amazing this is!







She literally crushes this energy into her palm!




She builds energy.





The SFX, the power of this sequence = :bow:

I love how she crushes this much energy into her palm like it's nothing. So cool! :wow:
 

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Something very interesting happening here.






The energy she is generating is so powerful that it's ripping away the earth at her feet and she is absorbing energy from it.
I guess she is siphoning energy from the atmosphere all around her including the Earth itself.
More than the Wind, it seems her powers are rather about the manipulation of molecules themselves (Space and all).

Notice that she creates the Circle of her Orb from the pattern that was left at her feet.



I guess this is how she creates the 'Earthquake energy'.







BEAUTIFUL!


Very retro shots. :kiss:








I see you Ando!


Legendary!
 

saintfighteraqua

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Ok, I've only been able to find 1 Japanese article describing the 90s anime World Shaking.
So what Uranus does is she assembles and concentrates 'high air pressure' (超高圧) into a ball of light which she strikes the ground with.
When it hits the enemy, it destroys it from the inside akin to an earthquake.

As we see here, Uranus gathers energy (thus the high air pressure) into her palm.

I love how she crushes this much energy into her palm like it's nothing. So cool! :wow:
There are still so many people who think this is an earth based attack. It's easy to see why. I've always thought of it like a meteor representing "space" or the "heavens" more than air, but the description makes sense in a way, especially when we see it kill the enemy and they start having a huge spasm.

There are a few frames in this attack I find kind of funny, mainly this one:

She's almost growing her mantis arm.
I'm forgiving though since this is an in between frame and it flows so well you never see this kind of thing in the 90s anime without pausing at exactly the right moment.
Also, the ribbon is so perfect here even compared to the rest of the animation of this attack.