Sailor Moon Cosmos announced for Summer 2023 [SPOILERS ALERT]

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Kibō no Chikara ~Otona Precure 23~ Anime Reveals Staff, Key Visual, Main Cast

Toei Animation previously announced the Kibō no Chikara ~Otona Precure 23~ and the tentatively titled Mahō Tsukai Precure! 2 (direct sequel to Maho Girls Precure!) anime as part of the Precure franchise's 20th anniversary project. Toei Animation labels both projects as being aimed at grown-up fans.
Mahō Tsukai Precure! 2 will premiere on the late-night "Animazing!!!" block on ABC TV, TV Asahi, and 22 affiliates in 2024.
So...It ain't gonna be an ONA and the characters will be REAL adults.... Sadly, Toei taking their product more seriously and showing Naoko-hime how it's done. :vanish:
 
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Kibō no Chikara ~Otona Precure 23~ Anime Reveals Staff, Key Visual, Main Cast



So...It ain't gonna be an ONA and the characters will be REAL adults.... Sadly, Toei taking their product more seriously and showing Naoko-hime how it's done. :vanish:
Saw this a while back on my YouTube notifications and I was excited which is weird since I don't watch Pretty Cure that much but I think I like the idea of the show. I feel like with all these updates I should get excited to see a brand being expanded into new heights.
 

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Still outsourced to Studio DEEN tho.. let’s see.
They kinda have to though with the number of titles they have lined up - I think it's confirmed DBS sequel is in the works, there's a Saint Seiya 2D anime with a decent budget (?) already confirmed - no idea if they have plans to continue the 3D series, probably not.
There's already new series of Dai and Kinnikuman annnounced. A sequel movie to the Digimon Kizuna film. Probably a Dragon Ball and One Piece movie too in the works.
The Digimon TV series is ending but it's not out of the realm of possibility that they're also planning an 'adult' Digimon series after the Kizuna movies in the likes of the Digimon Survive game.
The Mahou Tsukai 2 anime has been reportedly confirmed to be a 12-episode series so there's still gonna be a new Precure series next year with the annual movie that comes with it.
... And probably a bunch of other productions - Toei being the fast-food equivalent of japanimation.
It'll be a slap on the face though if Otona Precure has better animation and care than the SM Movies :P
 

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By that time, you won't even care anymore.
My only major criticism for this fanart is on her boobs, otherwise it looks quite decent despite its other (less-jarring) anatomical problems - wish some AI software could shrink those boobs to a normal-looking size & it'd look fine. :)
 

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Still outsourced to Studio DEEN tho.. let’s see.
Saw this a while back on my YouTube notifications and I was excited which is weird since I don't watch Pretty Cure that much but I think I like the idea of the show. I feel like with all these updates I should get excited to see a brand being expanded into new heights.
I've been thinking about it....... Maybe those Precure series for grown ups won't be that "adult", being generally bland and resorting to nostalgia. We'll see......
 

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I've been thinking about it....... Maybe those Precure series for grown ups won't be that "adult", being generally bland and resorting to nostalgia. We'll see......
I don't think by 'for adults', they mean to go dark like Madoka or even Classic levels with fanservice and stuff but I think it's mostly gonna be about distress, anguish and hurdles young adults face particularly in the case of Japanese people.

There's some great story-telling in Precure series like Heartcatch or Go Princess that have nothing to shy away from being 'mature'. Some movies also like Heartcatch, Smile and Happiness Charge are also very, very well written.
It's just that recently, the series have either been very bland or kiddified by it's tone and themes addressed and a severe decline in the storyline.
I think the last time Precure had a good storyline was for Hugtto (which rehashed some concepts of R lol) but since it was also an anniversary series, the several ad nauseam cameos by past Cure killed the storyline. If I remember correctly, the last episode even had Classic finale vibes.

For now, Hirogaru Sky seems to be quite good in the story department so if Toei continues like that I'll be more than satisfied honestly.
 

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See? This is the reason I can't see why Sailor Moon wouldn't be able to get new animated content unless something between the original creator and Toei was going on behind the scenes.
Saint Seiya is literally a nobody in Japan and even though Sailor Moon is niched now, its popularity actually covers places where Saint Seiya never even dreamt of being a thing, like North America and Eastern Europe. It even has a history of box office bombing in Japan, just like Eternal. Which I think only applies to Part 2 in Eternal's case, because at the very least Part I went to the top 10 and I doubt Saint Seiya's 2004 entry did so.
 
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See? This is the reason I can't see why Sailor Moon wouldn't be able to get new animated content unless something between the original creator and Toei was going on behind the scenes.
Saint Seiya is literally a nobody in Japan and even though Sailor Moon is niched now, its popularity actually covers places where Saint Seiya never even dreamt of being a thing, like North America and Eastern Europe. It even has a history of box office bombing in Japan, just like Eternal. Which I think only applies to Part 2 in Eternal's case, because at the very least Part I went to the top 10 and I doubt Saint Seiya's 2004 entry did so.
Well, considering the amount of manga spin-offs Saint Seiya has and their sales (generally +20k sales in the first weeks), despite being a niche I wouldn't call it a nobody in Japan.

The failure of the 2004 movie was because conceptually it wasn't Saint Seiya - there was only 1 full fight in the movie and all other fights were off-screen or cut short. Basically, for the majority of the movie characters just stared at the screen, contemplating their life :P
Over the recent years, the movie has sort of gotten a cult following from western fans but Japanese fans were very vocal about what the director did and how they didn't want this kind of direction for the future of the series - hence the reason for the bombing of the series. Even Kurumada was very vocal about his disappointment after both Toei and the director bamboozled his ideas for the movie to the point he went to TMS for a new SS anime.

Sailor Moon Eternal on the other hand - lots and lots of fanservice for the OG 90s anime fans - Tadano design, trailers with focus on the personalities of the girls, recycled footage, recycled theme songs from the 90s anime... yet Eternal is made for only one group of people - those who know the manga and are fans of it.
Even Crystal 1-3 had some work on it for atleast trying to attract new fans but not Eternal - no wonder people who didn't like the first movie didn't go to see the 2nd part despite having the Outers and the conclusion of the story (you would think people would be even more interested).
On top of that, a very bland and systematic direction to the movie - they could have meshed all 4 of the Inner stories to flow more fluidly, like introducing Minako's woes about being unable to transform right at the start or Makoto meeting and engaging with Hawk's Eye very early on too to set a strong footing in the writing but no - had to follow the manga to a T.
The only fun Kon seemed to allow herself was to put a nod to Saint Seiya via the Outers' roll call referencing Pegasus Fantasy (just like she put a reference to Soldier Dream via the Inners' dash in the SMC 3 OP).

Cosmos seems to be following the same approach by baiting long-time fans who forgot about Sailor Moon via the trailers focusing on UsaSei and Galaxia's menace mainly...
I have a feeling history gonna repeat itself. :P
 

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Perhaps we can have Sentai distribute Sailor Moon Cosmos since they have some relationship with Bandai.
They don't deal with California and while some people here hate the Viz dub, changing voice casts now for the final entry of this reboot would be a bad idea.
 

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But Netflix did had the same cast as the viz dub.I think there might be a requirement to keep the same cast.
Exactly. Every Eternal international dub on Netflix had consistency with previous dubs of Crystal or dubs/redubs of the old anime.
The European Spanish dub even went out of its away to rescue Venus' Classic-Supers VA, and she was retired for ages.