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I've said from the beginning that the Viz voices are very good for Crystal but SUCK in the 90's anime with a few exceptions in the main cast (I think Jupiter's VA is almost as good as Susan Roman.)
As for the naming structure of the girls in the past life, we'll probably never know for sure. The closest chance we got to finding out was in Sailor V and she's called Venus throughout any flashbacks, if I recall correctly.
I do believe the planets are called the Roman names and not the Japanese names. In the show we are seeing Japanese speakers give the speech so they refer to them as the Japanese names. (and as a bonus sounds less redundant than it does in other languages)
In the past, they most probably would not have been speaking Japanese.
Besides Venus, the Earth and the Moon, we never see any of the civilizations on the other worlds.
Since Venus had people, it's likely the inner planets (and Jupiter) had some form of civilizations, but I've always had the impression that the outer planets beyond Jupiter did not.
This has always bugged me because while I can buy Queen Beryl staging a sneak attack on the Moon I don't buy for a second that her army was able to move throughout the solar system conquering every world...it just didn't seem that large.
If there were other civilizations throughout the Solar System, I believe it was Sailor Saturn who ended them all, not Beryl and Metallia.
As for the naming structure of the girls in the past life, we'll probably never know for sure. The closest chance we got to finding out was in Sailor V and she's called Venus throughout any flashbacks, if I recall correctly.
I do believe the planets are called the Roman names and not the Japanese names. In the show we are seeing Japanese speakers give the speech so they refer to them as the Japanese names. (and as a bonus sounds less redundant than it does in other languages)
In the past, they most probably would not have been speaking Japanese.
Besides Venus, the Earth and the Moon, we never see any of the civilizations on the other worlds.
Since Venus had people, it's likely the inner planets (and Jupiter) had some form of civilizations, but I've always had the impression that the outer planets beyond Jupiter did not.
This has always bugged me because while I can buy Queen Beryl staging a sneak attack on the Moon I don't buy for a second that her army was able to move throughout the solar system conquering every world...it just didn't seem that large.
If there were other civilizations throughout the Solar System, I believe it was Sailor Saturn who ended them all, not Beryl and Metallia.
I'd like that too. Princess Serenity and her mother were called after the greek Moon titanide, Selene, but Endimion was called after Selene's lover, which is not god of earth or something. But if would be nice if the inner and outer's past lifes had names related to the gods and goddess linked to their planets, in greek myths or other myths. After all "Mars" is a roman myth name, but Mars being "the planet of fire" is japanese mythology, so no problem if they add more mythologies hehehe.
You are so right. A lot we don't know and it would be great to see,but I guess not even Naoko thought about much (of any lol) of that, because some things like the ones you mentioned has litle or no sense. The story is too focused on the main character.
After Saint Seiya manga was over, the author, Masami Kurumada, wanted to write a gaiden series where every volume would be focused on each of the 12 Gold Saints / Kinights. Unfortunately he couldn't do that, but a spin off prequel series called "Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas" did it and the series was a success. A whole volume (sometimes 2) focused on a single character, explaining more about him, his past and all that. It would be so great to have that about Inner and Outer Senshi.
I think it's said somewhere that Saturn's ended it all and reset it. Probably even Earth's Kingdom, and all started anew in Earth.
You are so right. A lot we don't know and it would be great to see,but I guess not even Naoko thought about much (of any lol) of that, because some things like the ones you mentioned has litle or no sense. The story is too focused on the main character.
After Saint Seiya manga was over, the author, Masami Kurumada, wanted to write a gaiden series where every volume would be focused on each of the 12 Gold Saints / Kinights. Unfortunately he couldn't do that, but a spin off prequel series called "Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas" did it and the series was a success. A whole volume (sometimes 2) focused on a single character, explaining more about him, his past and all that. It would be so great to have that about Inner and Outer Senshi.
I think it's said somewhere that Saturn's ended it all and reset it. Probably even Earth's Kingdom, and all started anew in Earth.
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Am I the only one confused about you guys wanting a realistic lore-building spin-off because the show's details "make no sense" when we also have the main cast composed of naturally born japanese women with blue eyes and hair, natural dark skin with pink eyes and green hair, and a naturally born child with red eyes and pink hair from a japanese mother with natural blue eyes and blond hair?
It's pretty obvious that we're supposed to consume Sailor Moon with a bit of suspension of disbelief. No one questions the universe mechanics of Super Sentai (which was a big inspiration for Naoko). Or Dragon Ball's logic behind using their Ki for attacks, or Saint Seiya with their Cosmos, because the pulpy and unrealistic aspect of the shows' logic is something presupposed. I'm absolutely sure the writers might present complicated background for stuff that's happening but mainly it's because they simply know we know it makes no sense, but it isn't really what draws us to it.
How about the three alien guardians who somehow are from another galaxy far away but for whatever reason their transformation phrases are in english, which is an Earth language? I don't care about knowing the reason, just show me pretty transformation scenes and moments of characters bonding and fighting evil. Leave that boring lore-building for Disney Star Wars spin-offs ffs
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I don't mean to say I didn't find her voice grating, especially on the first season, but it has a noticeable change in quality on season III, so I assume a lot of what made her voice acting bad was the directing. Her shrieks when she becomes Princess Serenity and Mamoru is taken away nearly made me deaf the first time I saw it, and I remember she seemed quite desperate in the manga chapter but not to the point of screaming her lungs out with pseudo-metal music playing.
I think it's because this "angsty mahou shoujo" vibe influenced by Madoka Magica was popular at the time, so they tried to copy that, which is also the reason for the near abscence of comedy in the first arc of Crystal. Same for Venus' super dramatic "NOOOOOOO!" after Sailor Moon is taken away by Demande - on the same episode they tried to shove a forced comedy scene on her, straight from the manga.
On season III Kotono's voice got a lot more contained, very noticeable when Usagi says "oh nothing." when she's asked if she's alright after being kissed by Haruka. Before, Kotono's voice was obnoxiously silly then abruptly changed to obnoxiously overdramatic depending on the scene, on season III and Eternal it felt more balanced and harmonious with what her character goes through.
I absolutely think this might've been because of Chaiki Kon's directions, it's obvious it got better after she took over.
It's pretty obvious that we're supposed to consume Sailor Moon with a bit of suspension of disbelief. No one questions the universe mechanics of Super Sentai (which was a big inspiration for Naoko). Or Dragon Ball's logic behind using their Ki for attacks, or Saint Seiya with their Cosmos, because the pulpy and unrealistic aspect of the shows' logic is something presupposed. I'm absolutely sure the writers might present complicated background for stuff that's happening but mainly it's because they simply know we know it makes no sense, but it isn't really what draws us to it.
How about the three alien guardians who somehow are from another galaxy far away but for whatever reason their transformation phrases are in english, which is an Earth language? I don't care about knowing the reason, just show me pretty transformation scenes and moments of characters bonding and fighting evil. Leave that boring lore-building for Disney Star Wars spin-offs ffs
.I don't mean to say I didn't find her voice grating, especially on the first season, but it has a noticeable change in quality on season III, so I assume a lot of what made her voice acting bad was the directing. Her shrieks when she becomes Princess Serenity and Mamoru is taken away nearly made me deaf the first time I saw it, and I remember she seemed quite desperate in the manga chapter but not to the point of screaming her lungs out with pseudo-metal music playing.
I think it's because this "angsty mahou shoujo" vibe influenced by Madoka Magica was popular at the time, so they tried to copy that, which is also the reason for the near abscence of comedy in the first arc of Crystal. Same for Venus' super dramatic "NOOOOOOO!" after Sailor Moon is taken away by Demande - on the same episode they tried to shove a forced comedy scene on her, straight from the manga.
On season III Kotono's voice got a lot more contained, very noticeable when Usagi says "oh nothing." when she's asked if she's alright after being kissed by Haruka. Before, Kotono's voice was obnoxiously silly then abruptly changed to obnoxiously overdramatic depending on the scene, on season III and Eternal it felt more balanced and harmonious with what her character goes through.
I absolutely think this might've been because of Chaiki Kon's directions, it's obvious it got better after she took over.
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Maybe you are the only one confused, yes, lol.
Please, take no offense. I was just kidding.
I am going to talk just by myself, of course, but I don't want lore-building spin-off "because the show details make no sense", I want lore building spin-offs AND maybe the chance to explain some details that make no sense. And I don't mean about litle details like eye colors, language, and all that, of course hahaha, it's just because I am curious about some details that are missing and are, at least, confusing, and spin offs could give the lore the chance to solve that "issue".
Of course any anime or fantasy series needs a certain level of suspension of disbelief (and sometimes a lot, lol) , for me that is part of the fun. But ignoring weird stuff about hair color, strange coincidences that puts the main character always next to an enemy attack, etc... is something that you can call suspension of disbelief. When important parts of story, or lore, are confusing or contradictory, or simply unexplained... that can't be solved by just ignoring it, and that kind of stuff will be ALWAYS part of detabes and conversations. It's natural to want to know about that.
Of course that kind of stuff is caused by the full story not being planned before-hand, and being built as the author writes it or the publisher demands new arcs, that's natural and normal in mangas and comics. The author keeps writing more and more and sometimes just need to retcon what he/she wrote before, or simply makes a mistake.
But it is fun to talk about that, wonder, imagine and debate
and dream about an explanation that has close to 0% chances of being given, ever , lol.
Please, take no offense. I was just kidding.
I am going to talk just by myself, of course, but I don't want lore-building spin-off "because the show details make no sense", I want lore building spin-offs AND maybe the chance to explain some details that make no sense. And I don't mean about litle details like eye colors, language, and all that, of course hahaha, it's just because I am curious about some details that are missing and are, at least, confusing, and spin offs could give the lore the chance to solve that "issue".
Of course any anime or fantasy series needs a certain level of suspension of disbelief (and sometimes a lot, lol) , for me that is part of the fun. But ignoring weird stuff about hair color, strange coincidences that puts the main character always next to an enemy attack, etc... is something that you can call suspension of disbelief. When important parts of story, or lore, are confusing or contradictory, or simply unexplained... that can't be solved by just ignoring it, and that kind of stuff will be ALWAYS part of detabes and conversations. It's natural to want to know about that.
Of course that kind of stuff is caused by the full story not being planned before-hand, and being built as the author writes it or the publisher demands new arcs, that's natural and normal in mangas and comics. The author keeps writing more and more and sometimes just need to retcon what he/she wrote before, or simply makes a mistake.
But it is fun to talk about that, wonder, imagine and debate
and dream about an explanation that has close to 0% chances of being given, ever , lol.
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If it were an overall reinterpretation of the entire story, presented in a different way/viewpoint, then there wouldn't be the overstuffing problem.
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As a Saint Seiya fan who's been having his stomach stuffed via the manga department of Saint Seiya since it's revival in 2003, I assure you it doesn't - quite the contrary.
When the Next Dimension-The Lost Canvas-Episode.G trio were published at a regular pace, it was Party Day every week on Saint Seiya Land.
When the Next Dimension-The Lost Canvas-Episode.G trio were published at a regular pace, it was Party Day every week on Saint Seiya Land.
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If anything, they could do a Sailor Moon Reboot. Crystal was just something Naoko wanted to get out of the way because it's the way she wanted the story to be told first (though some say it was an original cash grab). I consider Crystal a side project (well was a side project).
I feel like Crystal should have stayed it's own thing (ONA/OVA) and Eternal/Cosmos, that style should have been for a new series instead. Personal opinion tho.
They could still do a reboot of Sailor Moon...(though I'm tired of hearing the story repeatedly) but it could be done differently I suppose with a capable director. They can really work with some things here and there. They can easily do a new series starting off with Sailor V...
I wouldn't put it past them to reboot the 90's series since it's so popular and the one everyone (or almost) everyone identifies with globally.
I guess it may not be a matter of if but maybe when....and if I'll still be alive at the time.
I feel like Crystal should have stayed it's own thing (ONA/OVA) and Eternal/Cosmos, that style should have been for a new series instead. Personal opinion tho.
They could still do a reboot of Sailor Moon...(though I'm tired of hearing the story repeatedly) but it could be done differently I suppose with a capable director. They can really work with some things here and there. They can easily do a new series starting off with Sailor V...
I wouldn't put it past them to reboot the 90's series since it's so popular and the one everyone (or almost) everyone identifies with globally.
I guess it may not be a matter of if but maybe when....and if I'll still be alive at the time.
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well, if you say so 
Saint Seiya - Next Dimension (total of 16 expected vols) is the official sequel targeting the teens/adults who read the series during it's initial run.
Saint Seiya - Episode G (20 vols + 1 Extra), it's sequels G Assassin (16 vols) & Requiem (4 vols - ongoing) is the seinen version of Saint Seiya targeting kids/teens who grew up with the manga and now adults who want a more matured up version of it.
It's my personal favorite
.Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas (25 vols), Anecdotes (Gaiden series - 16 vols) & 1 Extra Bangai-Hen proposes a more modern approach to Saint Seiya appealing to readers who are familiar to works like Black Butler, Pandora Hearts and D.Gray-Man. It is to date the most successful Saint Seiya manga spin-off that got to appeal to the mainstream manga readers.
Both the G series and Lost Canvas, despite referencing the original manga and taking into account the OG manga's events, take place in their own time-line branching into their own future - so there's no plot-holes involved.
Saint Seiya - Saintia Sho (16 vols) + Extra (ongoing) was advertised as a shoujo version of Saint Seiya, focusing on a full female cast - it's however, in my opinion, the weakest spin-off and the one that had the lowest sales around 10k per vol if I remember correctly.
The author, tries way too hard to insert herself into the original timeline of the manga and there's too much fangirl fanservice, focusing on the mangaka's favorite legacy male characters with the plot barely taking off. At the half way point, the heroines had become spectators in their own manga.
It's incredibly beautiful and well illustrated though. It just needed another person to write the story.
It is regarded as an Outside Story or Side Story.
Saint Seiya - Dark Wing (3 vols ongoing) this time targets the 2020 manga reader crowd with an isekai setting and a lighter tone to it. I'm not the target audience but it seems people like it quite a bit?
Over time there has been other smaller manga projects like the Saint Seiya Omega manga that served as a companion piece for it's 2nd anime season, Time Odyssey (French manga or manfra as they call it) & the Golden Age one-shot - project for the manga's 30 years involving the 3 mangakas (Okada, Teshirogi & Kuori) working on the spin-offs.
Since Yun Koga also participated in the Golden Age project, her manga - Kurumada Suikoden ~ Hero of Heroes could also be considered a sorta Saint Seiya spin-off.
Point to be noted - all of these mangakas have gotten the blessing of Masami Kurumada, Saint Seiya's creator, to do whatever they want and take the story in the direction they seem fit and we know he personally requested Okada and Teshirogi to work on his franchise.
Kurumada is, himself, currently writing & drawing Saint Seiya - Next Dimension and on his preface message on the latest vol, he mentions that even after 50 years of career, he is still gonna continue writing!
Over the last 20 years, we've gotten a total of over 100 tankobons worth of new content!
Oh, the blessed time when Lost Canvas was coming out weekly.
@Talentless Fool has a point.
Even if all the Saint Seiya spin-offs were garbage, the fandom surely always has a lot to talk about.
Now that Crystal is coming to an end, what are we going to talk about? No matter how much we badmouthed it, it took center stage in discussion and kept the fandom alive.
Are we going to talk about musicals? About the next expensive fashion collab? The new manga reprint? SG5? Most of us don't care about any of that.
I know some of us may look like nothing more than Naoko/Sailor Moon IP haters, but at the end of the day we're just sad and desperate because we know we'll go dormant again quite soon.
Even if all the Saint Seiya spin-offs were garbage, the fandom surely always has a lot to talk about.
Now that Crystal is coming to an end, what are we going to talk about? No matter how much we badmouthed it, it took center stage in discussion and kept the fandom alive.
Are we going to talk about musicals? About the next expensive fashion collab? The new manga reprint? SG5? Most of us don't care about any of that.
I know some of us may look like nothing more than Naoko/Sailor Moon IP haters, but at the end of the day we're just sad and desperate because we know we'll go dormant again quite soon.
Why people are so obsessed with quantity - why do you need endless garbage so badly? Sure the fandom will go quiet but to be honest it NEEDS it. Sorry but most of us are getting toxic at this point. What is the point of getting a new something and have activity when it will be 90 percent trashing the new product? And looking at the state of creativity I am sure the next one will make Crystal look like a godsent masterpiece. What is the point to keep the fandom alive if it is for non-stop hate the way it has been for the past 10 years anyway...
For my part, I have always liked Naoko's work for the manga.
My 3 negative points:
-> His work in SMC, SME, SMC, would have been deepened by adding new elements, fillers would have been welcome.
-> The sawtooth design, it would have been necessary from the start to put the right elements to remain coherent.
-> Either we copy anime 90 (design, character, and so on), or we move away from it. But we don't do pick pick (fanservice).
After I enjoy watching the series, it saves me from reading the manga.
My 3 negative points:
-> His work in SMC, SME, SMC, would have been deepened by adding new elements, fillers would have been welcome.
-> The sawtooth design, it would have been necessary from the start to put the right elements to remain coherent.
-> Either we copy anime 90 (design, character, and so on), or we move away from it. But we don't do pick pick (fanservice).
After I enjoy watching the series, it saves me from reading the manga.
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