Sailor Moon Cosmos announced for Summer 2023 [SPOILERS ALERT]

[Sailor_Art]

Besides, there's something Takeuchi got right; she didn't make Hotaru transform into Saturn to fight Galaxia. Saturn (along with SM) could be a competent opponent Galaxia would've struggled with, Naoko knew that, that's why Hotaru was killed in her civil form in the manga (even though Saturn had already been mocked by Nehellenia and the Quartet ). That means that in this reboot Saturn has been treated like dirt twice just because some fans want to see a transformation sequence and her "powerful" attacks.

Well that was the easy way to get rid off of both Pluto and Saturn so they don't get in battle because with their powers ( stopping time/destroying the planet ) the series would just end lol. It's what they did in the 90's with them in Stars. None of them tried to fight Galaxia with their biggest powers. The only time Saturn had a proper battle and was able to develop her power was in the Nehelenia Arc. She almost blew the world but stopped because Chibi Moon ( the one she cares most about ) hugged her and told her to stop so she was left off guard and Nehelenia was able to get her with that distraction. That was a clever way to use her powers wisely.

 

[saintfighteraqua]

For those who don't want to watch it in the awful shorts format:

 

[MsImagination]

For those who don't want to watch it in the awful shorts format:

Looks cute^^.

 

[yaya_ikuto]

well we dosent know how galaxia defeated hotaru, and in that manga chapter dosent explain much,
its not bad having her transform the thing is how she will get defeated
about the castles, well they show us the room with the computer
i think the castle would be like the crystal palace, remember, the commanding room look like some computer with a monitor but the others rooms have some Greek designs

 

[kasumigenx]

With these shorts, I want to see an updated Sailor Star Song Music Video

 

[JunoDX]

Anyway this trailer is kinda underwhelming. We got our hopes high but it seems Saturn and Pluto’s part are still going to be small. Using footage from eternal is really cheaaaaaam. Can’t wait to see all manga’s weak point on a big screen.

For years dream arc was everyone’s favorite « because it deserves to get a full adaptation, it’s dreamy and full of princesses and horses and castles »… Well we know how it ended, and even manga fanatics don’t really like that arc anymore. With Cosmos, every manga flaw will be like highlighted and people are going to realize that it’s a badly build arc which embodies Takeuchi’s weak writing with a ton of new characters and concept that lead to nowhere.

The manga though works differently. You can use your imagination what’s happening between the panels. And besides that, the artwork is gorgeous and atmospheric, so readers are still visually pleased and willing to forgive weaker parts of the plot.

 

[Memelord_Yoshi]

It's nice to know this spell didn't get interrupted midway. The 'ultramega technique gets interrupted' trope is so over used in anime.

 

[foenyanko]

Is it just me, or does Saturn look taller when she's doing her attack than as Hotaru? I know that was a thing in the 90s anime with Chibi-Usa... but since they've retained tiny Saturn and tiny Chibi-Moon in this redux I dunno if it's just an animation fluke or intentional.

 

[kasumigenx]

Eternal has the "what could have been" of the 90s Stars like the Eternal outfits but Cosmos is an entirely new story written after the 90s stars was already been written.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Besides, there's something Takeuchi got right; she didn't make Hotaru transform into Saturn to fight Galaxia. Saturn (along with SM) could be a competent opponent Galaxia would've struggled with, Naoko knew that, that's why Hotaru was killed in her civil form in the manga (even though Saturn had already been mocked by Nehellenia and the Quartet ). That means that in this reboot Saturn has been treated like dirt twice just because some fans want to see a transformation sequence and her "powerful" attacks.

Well that was the easy way to get rid off of both Pluto and Saturn so they don't get in battle because with their powers ( stopping time/destroying the planet ) the series would just end lol. It's what they did in the 90's with them in Stars. None of them tried to fight Galaxia with their biggest powers. The only time Saturn had a proper battle and was able to develop her power was in the Nehelenia Arc. She almost blew the world but stopped because Chibi Moon ( the one she cares most about ) hugged her and told her to stop so she was left off guard and Nehelenia was able to get her with that distraction. That was a clever way to use her powers wisely.

Takeuchi had invented those plot-device-purposed Senshi who're so overly powerful that she just didn't know what to do w/ & how to handle them after Infinity.

What a waste. *sigh*

 

[Memelord_Yoshi]

Is it just me, or does Saturn look taller when she's doing her attack than as Hotaru? I know that was a thing in the 90s anime with Chibi-Usa... but since they've retained tiny Saturn and tiny Chibi-Moon in this redux I dunno if it's just an animation fluke or intentional.

Intentional.

They're going for that shounen 90s style so her limbs would look longer and the choreography more impactful. That's what I like about it. The animator can exaggerate.

If this was done in Eternal it would look flat.

 

[Talentless Fool]

Besides, there's something Takeuchi got right; she didn't make Hotaru transform into Saturn to fight Galaxia. Saturn (along with SM) could be a competent opponent Galaxia would've struggled with, Naoko knew that, that's why Hotaru was killed in her civil form in the manga (even though Saturn had already been mocked by Nehellenia and the Quartet ). That means that in this reboot Saturn has been treated like dirt twice just because some fans want to see a transformation sequence and her "powerful" attacks.

It wouldn't have been a problem if Saturn DID have a good stand-off against Galaxia in Charon Castle (but I doubt it) and still died.
Pluto doesn't seem to be using any stock either so I suppose Galaxia surprises her, Pluto tries to block Galaxia, Saturn returns from somewhere of the castle (for whatever reason), Pluto dies before Saturn's eyes and Saturn attacks, attack fails and she dies...
I mean they are already making Galaxia and Sailor Moon go Super Saiyan fight and giving Galaxia a Saint Seiya Heavenly Wheel attack so...?
I can understand the budget is quite tight but then they should have simply done a better job from the very beginning to make Sailor Moon profitable from the start.
Why choose a format that is absolutely detrimental to the plot with a total runtime of 160 min = roughly 8 episodes instead of a whole season of 13 episodes?

When fans talk about extended scenes they are talking about the girls still getting killed, the plot still following everything than happens in the manga but just that everything doesn't look and feel so vain and without payoff.
Things like Jupiter and Mercury actually putting a fight and pushing Seiren to her limits, the Inners having a conversation between themselves about the current situation and showing their personalities & dynamics, the Sailor Deaths scenes actually having more weight with perhaps additional scenes of them in civilian beforehand etc.

I don't know what's so difficult to grasp about fans now complaining when the staff are purposely baiting the fans by pushing out these trailers, tricking fans into believing that the Inners and co. are gonna be actual characters in the first movie and not canon fodder.

People who are gonna watch these movies are not exclusively manga fans, there are the 90s anime fans (that these trailers keep baiting), the casual Sailor Moon fans (who 90% of the time don't remember anything from the manga), the new Sailor Moon fans (who haven't read the manga) etc. so I don't see why people are in the wrong when they complain they are getting mix signals from the staff via these trailers.

 

[kasumigenx]

I think they should have made the 4th and 5th seasons of Crystal a Series, I think TOEI is positioning the movies as an alternate take to Super S and Sailor Stars as an alternative sequel to the first three arcs, something I don't think is even negative.

 

[JunoDX]

I think we should make final conclusions after we’ve watched Cosmos. The movies have obviously the same problems as Eternal and Crystal 1-3 due to the budget and limitation in storytelling. This is a low priority production, carried by the passion of the director, the powerhouses Megumi Hayashibara and Kotono Mitsuishi and some of the involved animators who give their best within their possibilities.

 

[Mathiwn]

It's nice to know this spell didn't get interrupted midway. The 'ultramega technique gets interrupted' trope is so over used in anime.

is it Silence Glaive Surprise?

 

[Memelord_Yoshi]

is it Silence Glaive Surprise?

I think it's Death Ribbon Revolution.

 

[Mathiwn]

I think it's Death Ribbon Revolution.

I thought that one should have like ribbons coming out of her glaive, right? This one seems more similar to Surprise in the Eternal film, in which she threw an energy thingy at the amazon quartet.

 

[Jawshx]

Is it Ribbon revolution or reborn revolution? If the latter the lack of ribbons would make sense. There again, it’s not like Jupiter throws coconuts at her opponent for Coconut Cyclone

 

[Memelord_Yoshi]

Aren't the black thingies behind her the ribbons?

Also it could be Silence Buster just like the one in the PS, Saturn and Super Famicom game.

Is it Ribbon revolution or reborn revolution? If the latter the lack of ribbons would make sense. There again, it’s not like Jupiter throws coconuts at her opponent for Coconut Cyclone

And it's also an electric base spell instead of an air/wind element.

 

[Lady Pen]

I think we should make final conclusions after we’ve watched Cosmos. The movies have obviously the same problems as Eternal and Crystal 1-3 due to the budget and limitation in storytelling. This is a low priority production, carried by the passion of the director, the powerhouses Megumi Hayashibara and Kotono Mitsuishi and some of the involved animators who give their best within their possibilities.

Cosmos smells of Eternal. It's not..............a bad thing...I suppose....but I expected some improvement.

At the end of the day, this is just the manga in colour.