Sailor Moon Cosmos announced for Summer 2023 [SPOILERS ALERT]

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Sailor Moon S the movie: Faithful adaptation with an animation the reboot will NEVER have.

Ami's first love Special: Faithful adaptation with an animation the reboot will NEVER have.

SuperS Special and the dentist SuperS episode: Faithful to the manga within SuperS story context.With an animation the reboot will NEVER have, even with Ando and Nakamura on the animation director chair and FUNNIER than Takeuchi's bland humour. :cool:

I cannot be more precise. :wave:



If the original anime had depended on Naoko's vision it wouldn't've lasted 5 years. Some people can't accept that. :cookie:

Sakou.....mature.....elegant.....a proof that just one part of the fandom cares about aesthetics. Well, it's the same people who think these pages are well drawn and beautiful:

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...sigh.....
You know, the funny thing is that sakous design s don’t even represent naokos illustrations.

naoko gave the senshi character, humour angst, just In their expressions. They didn’t always have glossed lips. I think Tadano and Itou had a much better grasp on the manga designs than sakou or takahashi.

So hopefully going forward a new studio can pick up the IP and do something that is consistent.

Im very happy with cosmos, so far. But it is sad that it took 10 years to get here.
Just give sailor moon to MAPPA or WIT please!!

or BONES . Lol
 

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I don't think anyone being selfish here.Realistically fans are saying your probably not going get a third anime adaption so soon or anything animated for a while.

I am not sure were ever getting anything sailor moon again.I imagine if we do get some thing.Its going to be a different media.Who knows maybe we get those infamous live action Netflix series.
I don't disagree necessarily with the posts talking about possiblies of not getting another anime adaptation.

It's fair to assume such. Especially with these shareholders going back and forth over control.

I think both sides can have a valid point because we ultimately don't know how well the Cosmos movies will perform and will this make them move forth with announcing a new production.

I also think the idea of having the franchise wait for up to a decade or more before another anime is created is silly. It tooks almost that long to get through Crystermos... Waiting a decade just to get a rehash of something already done 5 times already. hahaha

My thing is that if there are fans who want a new adaptation or hope for a new adaptation, they can do that. That doesn't mean they are delusional newbs..haha but there is always someone in the corner whispering "You're never gonna get it anytime soon.."Lol.

Seriously, most of the fandom have been with the franchise since it's birth for over 25+ years and survived through Crystermos. They know they might not get anything soon or how the series fades and resurfaces again. It's just good to hope for the best. Considering how older series are being redone or getting greenlit for new series. It's possible....even if it's a single cell chance..there's still a chance.

However, if the Cosmos movies do extremely well, it's most certainly possible we will get something a lot sooner or later. Money talks.
 
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Waiting a decade just to get a rehash of something already done 5 times already. hahaha
I think a new story arc should be created for animation purposes in like 5 years. For people to miss Sailor Moon again. My personal opinion. Saint Seiya adaptations usually take some time between each other to finish and begin.
However, I think another anime featuring Queen Beryl and her Dark Kingdom as villains would only make room for more damaging comparison. If that's what a future possible anime has to offer... I couldn't care less.
 
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I think a new story arc should be created for animation purposes in like 5 years. For people to miss Sailor Moon again. My personal opinion. Saint Seiya adaptations usually take some time between each other to finish and begin.
However, I think another anime featuring Queen Beryl and her Dark Kingdom as villains would only make room for more damaging comparison. If that's what a future possible anime has to offer... I couldn't care less.
I don't disagree with a waiting period just not an excessive one like 10 years. I respect your opinion. Trust me...I know it can take a while and Crystal has definitely increased my patience for series gaps.

I also want to leave a little room open for an adaptation for Chibi Moon because it's the almost perfect approach to take, if they take some time. Especially if the series concluded at Sailor Moon, it could easily drift into her daughter who wants to be a capable Sailor Soldier as she as often mentioned.

I honestly don't think Toei will compete with itself (if they still have rights to it). I think 5 years is the upper limit, though 2 years is good too as well to create a short magical girl series. Most anime take 8-12 weeks to make per episode depending on the workload or other things. Most companies probably could finish a 12 episode anime in less than 2 years or 2.5 years...but it really depends on several things altogether. And we know they often work ahead of schedule to keep up with things as well.

They technically already have staff for a new project, a character designer, a new writer, and a new director....and the "nice-meaning" music composer

It's not a guarantee that any of them would stick around obviously but it would most certainly decrease the time frame of looking for new staff if they did stay on. It would also give the general Crystermos seiyuu a break, especially Usagi's.


If we do get another Dark Kingdom in the future, I hope it's at least innovative like PGSM.
 
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Well, it's the same people who think these pages are well drawn and beautiful:
Maybe I’m missing something here but what exactly is wrong with those pages? They look perfectly fine to me, the only issue I can think of is that the transition of Ami arriving at the Command Center is a bit abrupt and confusing but Naoko has never been good at scene transitions, the art itself is fine.


1) An anime adaptation of Sailor V - a manga that nobody apart manga fans care about and that has no iconic characters, not even Minako is in her Senshi form (so what's the use of it?).
Are you really suggesting Minako in Sailor V isn’t an iconic character? Seriously? She has way more personality than Naoko’s self-insert Usagi and I and a lot of fans think the manga would’ve been better off keeping Minako as the main focus like what Naoko originally planned.

Also has way more personality and presence then that sad excuse of a wooden background character that Toei didn’t know what to do with till late R but y’know.

Minako is one of the few characters who’s flat out objectively better in the manga, or at least she manages to slay Classic and early R Minako outside of her backstory episode.


2) Anime adaptation of the side stories mainly Casablanca Memories and the Exam Battles (Ami's whose was already adapted) - Inners whom nobody feels close to because in Crystermos they have no personality nor iconic screen time (How out of place would it be to adapt CB now that everything is over and Rei was such a paper-thin character).
Because those side stories were always meant to help us learn about the Inners and give them personalities Naoko didn’t have time to portray in the story itself. (Because the manga is too short and her pacing and use of panel screentime allocation sucks)

Surely they’d be worse off and be remembered as even more paper-thin in Crystal without them.


But I gotta say how quick manga fans are the first to say 'it's too much, Sailor Moon can't go forever' as soon as someone starts to ask for new stuff - which would simply and realistically mean an original arc of 13/24 episodes - as if that person said they wanted an anime series of 200 eps again and repeating ad-nauseam that modern anime don't get spin-offs when it's completely false to the point that even original anime (such as Psycho-Pass) if successful enough go on to have manga AND anime spin-offs and/or sequels but they're the first to say yes to:
What about those of us who are fans of both the 90’s anime and manga (we do exist!) and want both? (new content/spin-offs based on the 90’s anime and the side chapter and Sailor V adaptations) It doesn’t have to be an either or situation.
 

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Yeah, I think it's bad that they wouldn't use the freakin' holy moon chalice for Sailor Moon's transformation, as maybe I'm in the minority that I always found that 90s eternal brooch to be ugly and with too many details, it's visually polluted.

But yeah, I [BLEEP]ing love it if eternal sailor moon's transformation will be a mash-up of all the 90s classic ones. That's pretty cool.
 
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Maybe I’m missing something here but what exactly is wrong with those pages? They look perfectly fine to me, the only issue I can think of is that the transition of Ami arriving at the Command Center is a bit abrupt and confusing but Naoko has never been good at scene transitions, the art itself is fine.
It's not bad - It's not good either. It's super basic.
While the expressions are rehashed over and over (Usagi and Ami have the same expression on page 3), there's no perspective thrown in, the camera/panel composition is always very close to the character, there's literally no work on the background (here it's one of the rare occasions, Takeuchi actually draws something like the game consoles), the last panels of the 4th page are LITERALLY SCRIBBLES and so on and so on.

Not to mention, the pacing on the pages is a complete mess, there's nothing to show the flow of time (there are basic techniques in manga storyboarding that are used to do so) - you have no idea when Motoki goes out, when Luna starts pushing buttons on the console, when Ami goes to their secret dungeon and transforms into Mercury... It's not just the story that is fast-paced but the way it's storyboarded forces the reader to go over events happening within seconds - no wonder even 'die-hard' manga fans forget stuff that happens in the manga.

Looking at these pages, I remembered why the first time I read them I had a headache afterwards - it's a mess, there's no flow for your eyes or mind to follow, it looks overloaded yet empty at the same time.

Are you really suggesting Minako in Sailor V isn’t an iconic character? Seriously? She has way more personality than Naoko’s self-insert Usagi and I and a lot of fans think the manga would’ve been better off keeping Minako as the main focus like what Naoko originally planned.
And... all of that is only known to the manga readers ONLY.
I haven't read Sailor V, I have no idea what you are talking about. In this whole reboot (which is the MAIN focus), Minako hasn't had much personality moreso than the other girls. There has neither, as well, been ANY allusions or callbacks to possible stuff that happened in Sailor V because of course we can't deviate from the manga.
So again, who apart from manga fans, cares?
You do understand that in the end of the day, this is not a passion project but a business. If it makes money, they'll produce more stuff accordingly for the people who are buying it. If Crystermos was a huge success and had taken liberties in giving the Inners more screen time or personality, yes I could see the use and appeal of animating Sailor V but again no one truly cares.

If I understand correctly, a lot of people love Sailor V because apparently in the end, Minako receives a curse that her love life will be doomed?
Does this so-called 'curse', play any part in Crystal?

On the other side, the 'paper-thin' Minako of the 90s anime, likewise, gets a similar backstory - her broken heart over Alan is something that constantly haunts her throughout the series and from Classic, itself, we are shown her nonsensical demeanor is a façade to hide her tremors.
In R, while being over Alan, she still struggles to admit the reality that she has to find someone new.
In S, all of this culminates to the point that even though she's the so-called Goddess of Love, her love life is non-existent and a failure in her eyes, causing her to doubt her self-worth and capabilities as a Senshi and worrying about her personal life and future.
It's only in her two-timing SuperS episode's end that she finally gets a resolve to her character arc as she discusses with Artemis and he offers her a fresh perspective over her life.
As she acquires maturity and wisdom after exploring her own trauma, Artemis helps her to understand that life is all about trials and failures and it's OK.
She ends the episode by saying she'll lead her life by her pace, one step at a time till the day comes when she finally finds her special someone.
She ends the series by getting over the trauma of rejection and loneliness her broken heart caused her.

The 90s anime did a better implementation of this 'love curse' than the manga where it's like I'll always say, 'everything happens to look cool and edgy'.

Do the events of Sailor V play in any part in the events of Crystermos? No - so what's the use of it?
Can we understand Minako's personality and worries better by adapting Sailor V? No.

Surely they’d be worse off and be remembered as even more paper-thin in Crystal without them.
The first 2 seasons should have made people care about the Inners for these extra stories to have a purpose in anime format but they didn't, so it has no use.
By Infinity's end, these stories, regardless of their content, are completely irrelevant because said characters themselves in the last arc are likewise irrelevant.
These are short stories - not ORIGIN stories, which in their case do have a use even after the end of the main series.
 
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Remember the facial expressions and what the Inners said in the episode of SuperS when they first saw Sailor Moon and Sailor Chibi Moon had switched bodies? That's me looking at the trailer....

They copied Sailor Moon S transformation. What the hell...
If that's the case.......why didn't they copy the Inners smoother transformations from the 90's too..,or maybe they did... More importantly, why are they copying the transformation from a different season altogether...lol It does look nice though.

Interesting choices Crystermos has been through. I'm actually confused by it all if I'm being honest.

Also are those rose petals in Mars transformation? PGSM reference?
 
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why are they copying the transformation from a different season altogether.
because stars footages of transformations and attacks are bad in creativity departament even by crysternos standards :wow::P