Sailor Moon Cosmos announced for Summer 2023 [SPOILERS ALERT]

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snowgeisha

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Sure but if they decide to release it on any digital platform later people all around the world will not pay to watch something that they will watch on 20th of December. The world is not just US. Eternal was released on more of 30 countries! You are talking about special screenings. Is a 2 or 3 day event worth it to not release it worldwide on Netflix? I don't think so.
I think that most viewers will still tune in to Netflix even if thats the case. The hardcore fans, like those who are on here and in fb groups etc, will probably try to download a subbed version first because they can’t wait but are probably just as likely to want to support the show if it hits Netflix.

If anything is consistent in this fanbase, it’s fans going out of their way to support the show whether the merchandise is subpar or not. Especially now more than ever- with the possibility that Cosmos is the last SM anime, fans may want to show the support so that we could get more.

And again, that’s just talking about hardcore fans who may download the sub. The casual viewer probably doesn’t even know there is another movie yet and will probably buy it/ stream it officially when it’s released.

And there’s the draw of watching it dubbed which isn’t possible with a fan sub of the Japanese dvd.. So yes, I personally think the views wont be affected coming out after the Japanese dvd whenever it is legally released internationally.
 
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Sure but if they decide to release it on any digital platform later people all around the world will not pay to watch something that they will watch on 20th of December. The world is not just US. Eternal was released on more of 30 countries! You are talking about special screenings. Is a 2 or 3 day event worth it to not release it worldwide on Netflix? I don't think so.
This is true. I did go see the R movie when it came out but it is really a hardcore fan thing. No one in reality is going to go see this for a few day, at least not in decent money making droves. Also, they'd have to be conscious of what else is airing in that countries market and what Cosmos would be competing against.

They also have to pay the theaters to show the screening. What profit are they going to get out of that? It seems like a waste of money to me. Something they already are nitpicky about spending.

I'd be really surprised if it pulls on big numbers worth of a profit but who knows?

Imo, it would have been smarter to release via Netflix (though they probably don't have a deal to) as they can reach a large amount of audiences because releasing it in theater is restrictive. I live in the US so we can get to get things (though this depends on the city you live in as larger cities get better things) but not everyone gets to see screenings in certain states (towns and rural areas) or even across the world either.

It would be better to just show it via Netflix so it doesn't seem like they are "gate-keeping" or picking favorites but with it being released DVD/Bluray, why see it in theaters.

As someone else also pointed out, some people may not like the fast paced nature/story telling method and further be turned away from seeing it.
 
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It is almost impossible to get the movies on theaters on my country but would love if they the plan a big worldwide release with it! I would even pay and fly to another country to watch it but only if they release it before the blu ray. After it I really think the impact is going to be very small. And if that is the plan (release it on theaters just in a few countries) I think it is another big disrespect to many fans across the world that will only be able to see the end of the story if they pirate.

I´m really sad about this.
 
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I don't see the movies hitting cinemas in 2024 ( it's too late now for a Desember 2023 release ), it's lots of months after the initial release and Toei movies lately don't take that much space gap.

Toei is releasing the Digimon 02 movie in Spain in 10 days ( Desember 1th ) , dubbed in +2 languages ( in Spain we have 4 different official languages depending on the zone ) and it was released in Japan the 27th of October. Is just a one month difference and the movies are dubbed and subbed.

So no, the movies wont have a worlwide screening 6-8 months after the japanese release. They must have a streaming deal or they just left the movies for a DVD/Bluray release for 2024 in some countries. But I don't think it's the case... all the signals seems to go to a streaming service.
Why is not announced yet? Who knows...

Maybe at the end all of it has to do with the strike in the USA? ( Altough someone here said it didnt affect dubbing ) as Netflix just releases animes with all the dubbings at the same time? Who knows now that the strike is done they can record it quickly and have a January/February 2024 release. Maybe even sooner since the other languages could had the dubbing done by now.

EDIT: I've read that the Digimon 02 movie had a USA screening in November 8 with both japanese and english dub in the middle of the strike so this basically confirms the strike has nothing to do with dubbing non american productions.
 

Masquerade

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If it was meant to be in theaters, I would be showed in Vietnam, Thailand, Hongkong... already. A movie company in Vietnam asked Toei but they refused.
The point is: things can't change halfway?
Besides that IMDBPro Viz thing, there are rumors Diamond Films has the license for Latin American countries. Let's see what happens, but the fact that there hasn't been an announcement by Netflix until now is a major red flag.
 
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The point is: things can't change halfway?
Besides that IMDBPro Viz thing, there are rumors Diamond Films has the license for Latin American countries. Let's see what happens, but the fact that there hasn't been an announcement by Netflix until now is a major red flag.
We will have the film to watch by the end of December, legally or not. :wink::wink::wink:
 
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Honestly, (and despite the potential for their being no negotiation)and this is my personal opinion but I think it's really stupid (wild) to take fans through all these trials and tribulations for 9 years of SM only to be hush lip about the very last season knowing full well that many folks in the entire world was waiting for it.

If they announce in December via Netflix that would be okay but it would be exceptionally late and probably pointless for a lot of people.

The handling of Sailor Moon for this generation will go down in history for sure as one of the worse. 9 years for 5 already completed arcs?!?!? And I still can't believe it to be honest. I'm like...Wait, 2014.... wow.
Me too it’s crazy it took us about 10 years. The handling of a beloved series across the world was handled so poorly and messy. It’s such a shame.
 
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Maybe last time, announcing and then releasing the Eternal movies before the Blu-Ray came out led to decreased sales of the Blu-Ray in Japan, as some Japanese fans may have relied on foreigners' rips of the Netflix releases? Maybe Toei doesn't want to announce the Netflix release before the Blu-Ray this time around so that more Japanese fans purchase the disc and don't rely on the Netflix release? I wouldn't put it past a Japanese company to put domestic sales first and foremost, even if the international market makes up a large portion of the profit.
 
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Maybe last time, announcing and then releasing the Eternal movies before the Blu-Ray came out led to decreased sales of the Blu-Ray in Japan, as some Japanese fans may have relied on foreigners' rips of the Netflix releases? Maybe Toei doesn't want to announce the Netflix release before the Blu-Ray this time around so that more Japanese fans purchase the disc and don't rely on the Netflix release? I wouldn't put it past a Japanese company to put domestic sales first and foremost, even if the international market makes up a large portion of the profit.
Nope.

Japanese do not pirate nor do they share rips or bonuses online.
(I'm sure there are some obscure Sailor Moon 90s calendar illustrations that never made it outside Japan or on the net).

Toei commented on it's official financial reports that the sales of the Eternal DVD/BD (and goodies) were actually really good compared to the theater performance and contributed to the overall income.
Considering - if I'm not mistaken - even blockbuster titles like the Gundam, the average 'excellent' sales records for DVD/BD in Japan is around 30k in the 1st week, the fact that there were several Japanese fans buying 5+ versions of the sets to get all the goodies leads to me to believe the sales were better than Crystal 1-3.

Who knows perhaps Toei considers Sailor Moon dead/irrelevant overseas compared to their other IPs which perform much, much better :P
 
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Maybe last time, announcing and then releasing the Eternal movies before the Blu-Ray came out led to decreased sales of the Blu-Ray in Japan, as some Japanese fans may have relied on foreigners' rips of the Netflix releases? Maybe Toei doesn't want to announce the Netflix release before the Blu-Ray this time around so that more Japanese fans purchase the disc and don't rely on the Netflix release? I wouldn't put it past a Japanese company to put domestic sales first and foremost, even if the international market makes up a large portion of the profit.
Japanese dont watch stuff illegally.
 

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Maybe the Japanese subscribed to Netflix to legally watch Eternal back then (dunno if Netflix is available in the country, but even if not, there could be ways to get around that so that they could still watch it somewhat legally since they'd already paid for it)? :)
 
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Maybe the Japanese subscribed to Netflix to legally watch Eternal back then (dunno if Netflix is available in the country, but even if not, there could be ways to get around that so that they could still watch it somewhat legally since they'd already paid for it)? :)

Maybe the Japanese subscribed to Netflix to legally watch Eternal back then (dunno if Netflix is available in the country, but even if not, there could be ways to get around that so that they could still watch it somewhat legally since they'd already paid for it)? :)
The Japanese already watch Western made AMV's via VPN which caused the take down of AMV's and the end of the Geoblocking of AMV's, I am aware of that because the AMV's I made got taken down back in 2020 so it is not a stretch if they use VPN's to watch Netflix.
 

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A figure of Sailor Cosmos that i will never buy :) .
I am glad that she got to have another figure since i hate that Qposket thing , those figures looks like iof they were trying to be cute but fail miserably , i prefer a figure that retracts the character as it is and not with those giant alien heads:zoid:.
I haaaaaate you Naoko-hime. Please, just take all of my money.
Another figure I have no room for and no money for but will still get.
Sailor Moon is truly the most abusive, one sided relationship I've ever been in.

Also, if they're going to keep doing these Chinese collabs, Genshin needs to add some Sailor Moon vision users. I can only imagine how much I'd spend to build a Sailor team...so in truth, I hope they never do that.
 
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Maybe the Japanese subscribed to Netflix to legally watch Eternal back then (dunno if Netflix is available in the country, but even if not, there could be ways to get around that so that they could still watch it somewhat legally since they'd already paid for it)? :)
No, Eternal was not ( and I think still isnt? Maybe it is now ) aired in Netflix Japan. That's why they made the DVD/Bluray version so they had to buy this to watch the movies. It's basically how the market works there and they get the money. Since they dont pirate/watch illegally they have to buy stuff trough official ways to consume that product.
 
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Nope.

Japanese do not pirate nor do they share rips or bonuses online.
(I'm sure there are some obscure Sailor Moon 90s calendar illustrations that never made it outside Japan or on the net).

Toei commented on it's official financial reports that the sales of the Eternal DVD/BD (and goodies) were actually really good compared to the theater performance and contributed to the overall income.
Considering - if I'm not mistaken - even blockbuster titles like the Gundam, the average 'excellent' sales records for DVD/BD in Japan is around 30k in the 1st week, the fact that there were several Japanese fans buying 5+ versions of the sets to get all the goodies leads to me to believe the sales were better than Crystal 1-3.

Who knows perhaps Toei considers Sailor Moon dead/irrelevant overseas compared to their other IPs which perform much, much better :P
Well, on the same financial reports you mention Toei states that SM is one of their big 5 franchises in the West in the last few years so I highydoubt that they consider it dead/irrelevant.
 
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No, Eternal was not ( and I think still isnt? Maybe it is now ) aired in Netflix Japan. That's why they made the DVD/Bluray version so they had to buy this to watch the movies. It's basically how the market works there and they get the money. Since they dont pirate/watch illegally they have to buy stuff trough official ways to consume that product.
They can view the Eternal movie via streaming services other than Netflix...there are Japanese streaming services that host Eternal and Crystal according to the official website.