Sailor V manga discussion

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julayla

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You’d imagine that someone with the Venus mark on their forehead would be an ally and serve Sailor Venus, but no…

Damburite is possessive and manipulative because (1) he knows he cannot have Minako, (2) cannot forgive Minako for having fallen in love with Kunzite (and others) in the era of the Silver Millennium, or (3) is resentful because he knows that even if he can have Minako, Kunzite is alive and Kunzite is Minako’s true love, as suggested by the manga panel and confirmed by Crystal.

“Sailor V“ tells the story of a girl, Minako, wanting to find love. She falls in love with many characters. The conclusion of the story, though, is absolutely crushing: “You will be hopeless when it comes to love for all eternity,” Damburite says. “Your fate is to keep fighting.”

One can say that the conclusion of “Sailor V“ is based on the myth of Venus and Adonis, many famous paintings/works of art and on what is believed to be Shakespeare’s first poem:

Rose-cheek‘d Adonis tried him to the chase;
Hunting he love’d, but love he laugh’d to scorn;
Sick-thoughted Venus makes amain unto him,
And like a bold-fac‘d suitor ‘gins to woo him
That and not to mention, she loses both throughout the series anyway as she is bound to Serenity for all eternity (or at least 'til her life ends via Cosmos' Timeline)
 

Clow

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#43
Minako x Kunzite

Having Seitou (or Seitou-Kun) be Minako’s first love confirms that while crafting chapter 8 Naoko Takeuchi indeed intended to pair Sailor Venus with Kunzite. Seitou looks nearly identical to Kunzite. Minako explicitly mentions “having met him before.”We see Sailor V and Kunzite together in the last chapter and Damburite/Kaitou Ace doesn’t seem like he is capable of forgiving Minako for love affairs that go back to the era of the Silver Millennium.

It certainly makes sense that Minako would want Kunzite to recover his memories when we see her in Crystal season 1.
 

julayla

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Minako x Kunzite

Having Seitou (or Seitou-Kun) be Minako’s first love confirms that while crafting chapter 8 Naoko Takeuchi indeed intended to pair Sailor Venus with Kunzite. Seitou looks nearly identical to Kunzite. Minako explicitly mentions “having met him before.”We see Sailor V and Kunzite together in the last chapter and Damburite/Kaitou Ace doesn’t seem like he is capable of forgiving Minako for love affairs that go back to the era of the Silver Millennium.

It certainly makes sense that Minako would want Kunzite to recover his memories when we see her in Crystal season 1.
And yet, as he does try to remember, he still dies in her hands. It shows that Venus is truly meant to die alone (according to Cosmos' timeline)
 

Clow

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Yeah, but a lot more...bitter or esoteric.
Naoko Takeuchi‘s conclusion to her stories:

(1) Minako “will be hopeless when it comes to love for all eternity…” and fight until she dies.

(2) Usagi will become Neo-Queen Serenity, but “the history of war and suffering will continue.“ Usagi is Eternal and will eventually become Sailor Cosmos… and then battle Sailor Chaos for all eternity.

:purpleghost:
 
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julayla

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Naoko Takeuchi‘s conclusion to her stories:

(1) Minako “will be hopeless when it comes to love for all eternity…” and fight until she dies.

(2) Usagi will become Neo-Queen Serenity, but “the history of war and suffering will continue.“ Usagi is Eternal and will eventually become Sailor Cosmos… and then battle Sailor Chaos for all eternity.

:purpleghost:
Yep, and re-reading it reminded me that it was depressing to me at the end. So depressing that I was really depressed for a while that I really didn't want to do anything ever again until weeks later because, to me, the message was "be depressed for a long time".
 
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Clow

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Yep, and re-reading it reminded me that it was depressing to me at the end. So depressing that I was really depressed for a while that I really didn't want to do anything ever again until weeks later because, to me, the message was "be depressed for a long time".
I used to think the same way in the beginning, but I believe now that the message of both stories, “Sailor V” and “Sailor Moon,” is having strength. Having strength and courage in the face of adversity. And that is a relatable message.
 

kasumigenx

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Minako already knows her fate in Stars.



Note: The last chapter of the “Sailor V“ manga was written after the conclusion of Stars.
Her duty is for the Princess of the Solar System which is theoretically Chibiusa after Usagi sacrificed herself in the Cauldron when she gained the power of the Cosmos Seed.
 

Clow

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Her duty is for the Princess of the Solar System which is theoretically Chibiusa after Usagi sacrificed herself in the Cauldron when she gained the power of the Cosmos Seed.
No, Minako will always protect Usagi, her Princess.

Chibiusa has the Quartet. Sailor Cosmos even addresses Chibiusa as the Sailor Quartet’s Princess.
 
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kasumigenx

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Uhm, yes they do. Otherwise they wouldn't have known she existed and that she is Usagi.
Yes, although I think the memories of the Quartet are being changed by the changes brought by the Jump of Usagi in the Cauldron as it seems that they are joining the new timeline discarding the old one where Usagi did not Jump.

Honestly, Usagi is not supposed to have the command responsibility to the Solar System Senshi after she acquired the Cosmos Seed, but the Cauldron Guardian allowed her to remain having the control of the Solar System provided that she does not reincarnate after she left the Cauldron.

I wonder why Usagi does not want to give up the Cosmos Seed after she got it...

In any case, the Command responsibility not being given to Chibiusa yet frees Chibiusa from the responsibility in ruling the Solar System.