Sera Myu Lore/Continuity/Timelines?

[YuYu Yuichiro]

I haven't watched all the Sera Myu Musicals [I paused at the end of The Dracul arc] but I noticed some instances where they call back to previous performances.

In the SuperS Musical "Dream Soldier - Love - Into Eternity"/ "Yume Senshi - Ai - Eien ni" The Song Remember Yourself shows flashbacks to previous Myus
[Video starts at the part]

There's also This line in 2000 Summer – Kessen / Transylvania no Mori – Shin Toujou! Chibimoon wo Mamoru Senshitachi [Jesus Christ these names ] Where Rei points out their previous Summer Vacation to Kaguya Island

So, couldn't you make timelines for events between certain Myus?

Also, if anyone wants to discuss Myu specific details like Usagi being into Evangelion.

 

[JayD22460]

I see the old Myu shows all taking place in a vague, chaotic canon that sometimes acknowledges past musicals and sometimes doesn't (Dracul arc being a more coherent exception). I can almost guarantee they weren't planned one way or another lol. You could make a strict timeline if you really want to, and you'd have to take time to comb through inconsistencies which would just get worse and worse as you continue.

The idea alone stresses me out lol

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

I see the old Myu shows all taking place in a vague, chaotic canon that sometimes acknowledges past musicals and sometimes doesn't (Dracul arc being a more coherent exception). I can almost guarantee they weren't planned one way or another lol. You could make a strict timeline if you really want to, and you'd have to take time to comb through inconsistencies which would just get worse and worse as you continue.

The idea alone stresses me out lol

So it's like mingling events in different parallel universes, which, of course, are likely to be inconsistent or even contradictory to each other, in one same universe, hence breaking all the logic & causal relationships in that universe.

 

[Lady Pen]

I see the old Myu shows all taking place in a vague, chaotic canon that sometimes acknowledges past musicals and sometimes doesn't (Dracul arc being a more coherent exception). I can almost guarantee they weren't planned one way or another lol. You could make a strict timeline if you really want to, and you'd have to take time to comb through inconsistencies which would just get worse and worse as you continue.

The idea alone stresses me out lol

They're like Toei's anime films from popular shows that call back previous events of the series or other movies even though the film has its own canon.

 

[YuYu Yuichiro]

After COMPLETELY disqualifying the power ups, I thought I wanted to see If I could connect the Yume [SuperS] Myu with the 1st Dracula Myu [Leaving Kaguya somewhere] since the Dracul one seems to be a rehash of the S Myu [of which the Yume Myu made flash backs of]

That would make the timeline.
[Dark Kingdom - Kaguya Island - Dracul #1 - Yume [Supers] - Dracul #2 & 3 - Either Stars OR Eien Densetsu [The starlights are looking for Kakyuu in both]

Then I realized the ABSOLUTE HORROR.

Hotaru throws everything off.

 

[YuYu Yuichiro]

So, after looking back over the notes it may not be completely hopeless.

I felt lost because In the Yume Myu the person who turns into Sailor Saturn isn't a girl named Hotaru but in the credits is referred to as "Miss Dream" So how could there be two girls who turn into Saturn.

Then I realized after the Yume Myu was its Kaitaban [the revised version] There I made sure to take note of this line.

So, I guess Nehelenia just kidnapped her from Tomoe because she's just awful like that.

You'd also have to use the Kaitaban since [spoilers] Mamoru kinda DIES in this musical because awful things just always happen to Mamoru as karma for bullying Usagi because the universe just hates him.

[can we please use this clip every time something bad happens to Mamo]

Also, Shin Densetsu is also a possible ending with it just being Eien Densetsu but with the Amazon Trio instead of the Animamates.

 

[JayD22460]

They're like Toei's anime films from popular shows that call back previous events of the series or other movies even though the film has its own canon.

I love that in DBZ in particular ahahahaha. I like the Garlick Jr. saga specifically because it makes a bit of a mess by making the Dead Zone movie canon. And I've always loved Turles, the original Broly, the original Gogeta...to this day, when I feel the urge to watch DBZ but I don't wanna binge episodes, I just throw on one of those films.

[Dark Kingdom - Kaguya Island - Dracul #1 - Yume [Supers] - Dracul #2 & 3 - Either Stars OR Eien Densetsu [The starlights are looking for Kakyuu in both]

I actually like this! Taking your additional post into consideration, yes just replace Yume with the Yume Kaiteiban and I mean, I love the Stars musicals but Eien Densetsu is probably the best way to end a Sera Myu timeline lol. Such a classic.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Some info regarding Miss Dream at WikiMoon:

Miss Dream - WikiMoon

 

[JayD22460]

Ah but wait, don’t you need an R musical to introduce Chibiusa?

 

[YuYu Yuichiro]

Ah but wait, don’t you need an R musical to introduce Chibiusa?

I guess so. I just haven't seen any musical past Dracul #3 just yet.

 

[Lady Pen]

After COMPLETELY disqualifying the power ups, I thought I wanted to see If I could connect the Yume [SuperS] Myu with the 1st Dracula Myu [Leaving Kaguya somewhere] since the Dracul one seems to be a rehash of the S Myu [of which the Yume Myu made flash backs of]

That would make the timeline.
[Dark Kingdom - Kaguya Island - Dracul #1 - Yume [Supers] - Dracul #2 & 3 - Either Stars OR Eien Densetsu [The starlights are looking for Kakyuu in both]

Then I realized the ABSOLUTE HORROR.

Hotaru throws everything off.

Apart from the first five musicals of Nelke and the Dracul series of Bandai, the musicals are generally stand-alone versions of the manga/anime story arcs. The Dracul second musical and its revision has some ideas and characters of the Dead Moon arc, and the third musical some concepts of Stars.

I love that in DBZ in particular ahahahaha. I like the Garlick Jr. saga specifically because it makes a bit of a mess by making the Dead Zone movie canon. And I've always loved Turles, the original Broly, the original Gogeta...to this day, when I feel the urge to watch DBZ but I don't wanna binge episodes, I just throw on one of those films.

Me too. The thing is, that canon thing... doesn't exist in Japan. They don't care about that. All those movies and original arcs are gaidens for them, like side-stories that do not belong to the main plot or the original manga/story but complement that story and its characters even though they contradict one another.
Japanese enjoy those stories, while westerners avoid them for some reason, as if such stories or characters were inferior or not worthy and they had the responsibility to protect the original story and worship the author.

 

[Talentless Fool]

Me too. The thing is, that canon thing... doesn't exist in Japan. They don't care about that. All those movies and original arcs are gaidens for them, like side-stories that do not belong to the main plot or the original manga/story but complement that story and its characters even though they contradict one another.

I love them so much!

When I was a kid and I didn't know nothing about OVAs/movies and what they were, I was always super excited whenever I would be able to get my hands on one of these DBZ movies

They were like psychedelic versions of the TV show and I wanted to have all of them.
It's so sad that they aren't a thing nowadays; I guess the franchise that is closest to that type of exploitation is the Fate series.

I wish Sailor Moon had at least one 'violent and dark' movie version like the DBZ's early movies.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

The thing is, that canon thing... doesn't exist in Japan. They don't care about that. All those movies and original arcs are gaidens for them, like side-stories that do not belong to the main plot or the original manga/story but complement that story and its characters even though they contradict one another.
Japanese enjoy those stories, while westerners avoid them for some reason, as if such stories or characters were inferior or not worthy and they had the responsibility to protect the original story and worship the author.

To them those're considered just as alternative versions of the original story, which're a common thing in many franchises, including Sailor Moon.

 

[YuYu Yuichiro]

So, I just watched The Black Lady Myu.

It fit quite well in the timeline. So that's cool .

[Dark Kingdom - Black Lady [R] - Kaguya Island - Dracul #1 - Yume [Supers] - Dracul #2 & 3 - Either Stars OR Eien Densetsu [The starlights are looking for Kakyuu in both] [There's also Shin Densetsu as a possible ending but-]

Chibiusa introduces herself to UsaMamo and the Outers are just also present as a full group. I am kinda worried about that one though.

 

[YuYu Yuichiro]

Watched two more musicals.

"Ai no Sanctuary / Sanctuary of Love" can kind of go anywhere after Black Lady since the Outers and Chibiusa are present so yeah.

Then there's ....... "Infinity Academy Mistress Labrinth". this one's ....... interesting. It basically goes over the Infinity arc from the manga. They've already met Chibiusa by this time so it can already go after the Black Lady Myu. They meet Haruka and Michiru for the first time here. I thought that could be a problem but iirc They only met Uranus and Neptune In Black Lady but never met Haruka and Michiru ......... maybe this could work after all.

And then I remembered

I had to remembered in Mistress Labrinth the other outers are fearful of Hotaru's awakening like in the manga because she kills everyone. Iirc Uranus & Neptune are looking for the Holy Grail In Dracul 1 but I'm not sure if they were in Mistress Labrinth. I saw it a while ago so I definitely could be misremembering.

On the other hand
I still haven't seen the Kaiteiban [Revised version] and I could just exclude it like the 2nd musical that Dracul took the place of.