The Viz Suck Thread

[NJ_]

I've only seen a few DiC episodes and clips, but the senshi are all smoother and softer sounding and within range of each other. For someone who only saw a few DiC episodes, this was tough for me to follow:

So that's the new way to avoid copyright strikes hu-

>Published on Jul 5, 2012

I guess this was posted back when Toei was pulling episodes the few times that they did.

 

[redneonglow]

So that's the new way to avoid copyright strikes hu-

>Published on Jul 5, 2012

I guess this was posted back when Toei was pulling episodes the few times that they did.

If you think that's manipulated, here's the original: Sailor Moon Unnatural Phenomena Cassette Audio
Rei and Makoto clearly sound smoother, higher pitched, and less aggressive than Viz.
EDIT: Makoto is apparently not on that tape. Here's an example of DiC Mako, compare to the original videos I posted

 

[Memento]

Do you mean that they sound smoother, higher pitched, and less agressive *in* the Viz dub? Because Makoto (a.k.a. Lita) is not in that audio episode.

 

[redneonglow]

Do you mean that they sound smoother, higher pitched, and less agressive *in* the Viz dub? Because Makoto (a.k.a. Lita) is not in that audio episode.

In the DiC dub.

I edited the post to add Mako's talent speech for you to compare with the Viz videos I posted earlier.

 

[NJ_]

If you think that's manipulated, here's the original: Sailor Moon Unnatural Phenomena Cassette Audio

Oh wow, wasn't aware this was a real thing, also found your thread while looking it up some more.

Guess that explains Toei not doing anything and I think WMG stopped around that time as well since they also used to have dub videos pulled from YouTube for a while because of the music since they own Kid Rhino.

 

[Clow]

If we're talking about the dub, nope. We would be having the same conversations as right now, especially over the writing because some (not all) of FUNi's regular writers are terrible at their job and have been called out for it plenty of times, especially in more recent years.

Thus, my point.

Even if a different company handled the licensing and release of "Sailor Moon" in North America, people would still feel dissatisfied and complain.

If it is not the picture quality, it is the dub; or the new dub is not good and the old one is better and they should have done something that felt closer to the old dub... and the list goes on.

People will never be satisfied.

 

[sapphire91]

But the fact what Viz did with the video is unquestionable crap... Im not blinded by nostalgia, I care little to no about dubs, I find the new dub ok, but the video is quite bad.

 

[ChampionOfNuggets]

Thus, my point.

Even if a different company handled the licensing and release of "Sailor Moon" in North America, people would still feel dissatisfied and complain.

If it is not the picture quality, it is the dub; or the new dub is not good and the old one is better and they should have done something that felt closer to the old dub... and the list goes on.

People will never be satisfied.

It's just SO MUCH EASIER to ignore valid criticisms of a crappy product if I dismiss it with a strawman argument that people will complain no matter what

 

[Masquerade]

Yes, I have to agree the new dub works a lot better with Crystal. The scrpts and direction are much better there. But Sailor Moon old show sound is a hell to work it. A sound director and friend of mine tried to make a fandub of the break up scene from R and it took him a lot of effort to separate the sound effects, voices and music from a show produced in mono and then converted to stereo. It is of course possible, just very hard. The movies dub sounds better and the mixing smoother as they have 5.1 sound

Viz has the master files for the episodes, so they don't need to go through all that.
You know, separate tracks for music, voices and SFX.

 

[ChampionOfNuggets]

The movie dubs, from what I bothered to listen to, honestly doesn't sound any better than the series dub.

Yeah the fact that its an older show is the reason the dub sounds off but its not a good excuse. Funimation redubbed the Dragon Ball movie Curse of the Blood Rubies (1986 vs 2010) and it doesn't have that problem


and Sapphire, from what I'm understanding your friend isn't a paid professional. And if he is, he isn't being paid to do that. Viz's work shouldn't be comparable to someone doing it on the side as a fan project.

 

[The Blizzard Prince]

I think the difference is FUNimation has more experience releasing older titles, while Viz sticks to current titles. (or titles that were dubbed not long after they first came out) They try to treat the redub like any other modern dub, not realizing new dubs of older shows need to be mixed differently.

 

[Sailor Kuro Neko]

I find the Viz dub of Sailor Moon 1990s to be amazing. I've been watching them every time and I love it. In fact, here is a scene I love from the Viz Dub.

 

[Memento]

Starts around the 42 minute mark. Linda talks about how the original dub cast was completely blindsided at Anime Expo back in 2014 when Viz revealed their new dub cast.

 

[julayla]

Oh geez. I feel bad for them

 

[SailorMars34]

I can't stand the new voices from Viz I love the DiC and Cloverway dub better

 

[zuga zaddy]

omg my main gripe with the viz dub is the acting, it just seems forced and bland, especially when the senshi are facing off against the dd girls

 

[sapphire91]

The dub is not that bad, but selling season 1-3 as they are quality-wise is completely unacceptable.

 

[zuga zaddy]

The dub is not that bad, but selling season 1-3 as they are quality-wise is completely unacceptable.

yh, currently im watching the viz dub fully so ill see if my opinion changes after ive finished watching all the seasons , I wil admit some actors (like the voice of ikuko I like)

 

[zuga zaddy]

also I feel like the VA for luna is a bit weird cause she it sounds like cause she speaks so slowly that she thinks the people watching the show are toddlers

 

[sapphire91]

also I feel like the VA for luna is a bit weird cause she it sounds like cause she speaks so slowly that she thinks the people watching the show are toddlers

She reminds me of these generic voices they use in movies for computer systems or announcements. Like the Animus voice in some AC games.