To the manga purists..

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Just curious.. I ’m sure it differs from person to person but how faithful do you wish Crystal/ Eternal was to the manga?

Are you someone who is happy with a strict 1:1 adaptation?

Do you wish they stuck to the manga but expanded on certain elements? (season 1 of Crystal for example)

Or are you one of those fans who wished Crystal was a blend of elements from both the 90’s and the manga?
 
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I am 100% happy and satisfied with the strict 1:1 adaptation.

I love Crysternal and I would not change or add anything.

The trailer of the two Eternal movies have the most beautiful Sailor Moon scenes I have seen, to date.
 
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I wanted them to expand on stuff from the manga, without diverging. There are so many things that can be explained further and fleshed out. But then Crystal ended up being on its worst at times they changed stuff from the manga like in s 1... I am happy with 1 on 1 adaptation as every manga fan wanted to see it animated and it would be incredible unfair to suddenly drop the ball and go in a different direction. It is not a perfect adaptation, but it is overall the manga story. Once they cover it with this adaptation, they can go whatever route, but I hope they finish it.
 
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They probably should have added more elements. Sailor Moon isn't hugely popular because of the manga. It's the 90's anime because it took the several shallow parts of the story and expanded on them.

That's not to say I don't like Crystal, which I do, but the story is paper-thin and a lot of the cast (mainly the enemies) are cardboard cutouts/and or forgettable. This will also translate to a visual format.

Had it not been for the 90's adding some depth to some of these characters, we probably wouldn't have had the legacy we had today still as strong.

The changes in Crystal were bad because the entire narrative of the manga is not very detailed. The SenshixShittenno pairings could have worked if they were done realistically but because of how the senshi are airbrushed in the manga you really don't get a sense of why would should care about their past love or the four generals who were supposed to die horribly.

I'm happy with what we have so far but it could have had some polishing to get rid of the rushed, wtf moments.
 

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I have a weird relationship with the manga: I think it has many plot holes, doesn't go deep on many aspects of the stories, the art is very wonky (even if it's better from Infinity chapter), and for an unknown reason, Takeuchi doesn't seem really sympathetic to me...
But at the same time, it's tied to my childhood and I bought religiously all japanese editions of the manga, artbooks and all... And I love some artworks even if it's wonky lol

So I'm not really a manga purist (less than lot of people), but I would have been fine with Crystal being from the start the manga story with 90's design, mostly. I don't think the manga design looks good animated (hence, crystal S1+2). Indeed it would have been nice to have seen the manga a little expanded, and maybe if most scenes wouldn't have been a direct copy of manga panels (even if they are kinda nicely done from the trailer)... but at this point it's too late and I just want the story to get till the end ^^ So at this point I'm happy with Eternal, mostly.
 

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I hadn't seen any plot holes in manga until you guys pointed them out. XD
More than plot holes, I see lot of unexplained things that could have been expanded and it’s really too bad Takeuchi wasn’t able to do this. I know she doesn’t want to draw manga anymore but I suppose she could at least write stories and make some other mangaka draw them, as Kurumada is doing for Saint Seiya.
 
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More than plot holes, I see lot of unexplained things that could have been expanded and it’s really too bad Takeuchi wasn’t able to do this. I know she doesn’t want to draw manga anymore but I suppose she could at least write stories and make some other mangaka draw them, as Kurumada is doing for Saint Seiya.

I feel its not my place to comment on this thread since I'm, basically the complete opposite of a manga purist lol, but, agreed so much. She could even do the bare minimum and write incredibly vague story outlines like Toriyama does for Dragon Ball for a team to fill in and make something out of. The only arc of the manga I've actually been able to read all the way through (my girlfriend will usually tell me to stop when I'm reading it since she knows I have... feelings on it lol), and I had no idea what 90% of things were or what was going on lol

I'm sorry this wasn't really my place to join
 
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morri

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Just curious.. I ’m sure it differs from person to person but how faithful do you wish Crystal/ Eternal was to the manga?

Are you someone who is happy with a strict 1:1 adaptation?

Do you wish they stuck to the manga but expanded on certain elements? (season 1 of Crystal for example)

Or are you one of those fans who wished Crystal was a blend of elements from both the 90’s and the manga?
All I ever wanted was an 1;1 adaption and so far I am very pleased. . like once i have seen a fan made pokespe episode.. if there was another wish i would love a pokespe anime.
back to sailormoon i watched the 90s anime sporadically( as it was in the afternoon) and bought the episode comics ,but the manga and artbooks were my main focus
 
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Interesting opinions!

For me going into Crystal I guess I didn’t really know what to expect but I wasn’t super
familiar with the manga (especially because it was literally so hard and expensive to come across at that time seeing as it was out of print for many years) but for me seeing Crystal for the first time, something was off. Not just animation wise (I don’t wanna open that can of worms again on here) but just the pacing in general could’ve been done a lot better, in my opinion.

I think the manga has a lot of interesting things to say and I actually think Naoko herself is great at coming up with interesting ideas. However her problem lies in the excecution. Which is probably not even her fault since she had to rush, rush, rush through everything at the time for deadlines sake.

I know a lot of people who hate the 90’s anime for its filler but I say Crystal would’ve benefitted from some filler to pad out the plot and develop the characters a bit more. I didn’t want them to go crazy and completely change the story like the 90’s but I do think it would’ve benefitted from the staff having slightly more creative input. Or Naoko being a little more willing to expand on her own ideas so they had more to work with.

Basically the manga but longer and more fleshed out.
 
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I can't put this into words but, I like Crystal. I'm glad we have two animated adaptations. I do love the "Sailor Moon" manga, however, I like the 90's anime at times. Well, I like how the original 90's anime gives us an opportunity to better know the supporting characters.
 
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”Sailor Moon” was the first manga I have read. And it was the “Sailor Moon“ manga that introduced me to “Magic Knight Rayearth” (and all the CLAMP works that I adore). Speaking only for myself, I love what we have and I would consider any kind of filler an intrusion.
 
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I think the question is how much do you mean a strict 1:1 adaptation ?

Dialogue matches word for word ?

I am using the manga for Haikara San Ga Tooru to try and translate the anime - whilst MOST scenes are 100% taken from the manga there are just cases where the manga leaves things to the imagination and you NEED to have some extra conent just for it to make sense on the screen ?

For me as long as the scenes / 75% of the dialogue is the same that's good but there are just some times when a bit of creativity is needed for it to make sense in animated form vs the written word.
 

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I'm more of the 90s anime type but I do like the manga there's somethings I like better in the manga than other versions like chiba for example he's competent compared to his anime self

that being said 1 - 1 adaption [in terms of events, story, and plots it's fine to change up dialogue as long as the message is the same and an updated Takeuchi approved character design [that doesn't pander to 90s fans because even as one myself I want this to be it's own thing] don't hurt ]
is all I want out of crystal no deviations unless they gonna add to under developed characters if not then leave it alone

[senshi x shittenou was a lazy attempt at this and it lead to nothing cause once they were gone the inners just forgot about them and moved on imagine if they killed chiba off like that do you think Usagi would just get over that and with memories intact as the inners did in crystal? I don't think so. what I'm saying is they didn't commit to sen x shi one moment it's established then diminished in time for the finale it's the equivalent to the R break up arc to it's pointlessness of it's existence, in that arc's case they focused on Usagi x Chiba;s troubles cause of the test dream future lavender cape boy sent when everything was fine after Doom Tree which Usagi did everything to get Chiba to remember I say that should have been the test R should have focused on Usagi's and chiba's relation to Chibusa as well as inners friendship with her not this poor excuse of soap opera they injected with the break up I may not ship them but that don't mean I don't want a coherent story.

Manga and Crystal had tensions going on but this was coupled with the fact that Usagi not only was feeling helpless cause of the inners being captured 1 by 1 but also cause Chiba gave Chibi more attention I think it's downright dumb to think a grown man would take a kid over you but whatever I blame her head being muddled cause of the inners being kidnapped, no break up caused by a vision test was necessary, it's never necessary]

Neither the manga or the 90s anime is perfect but when the writing is good it's something special and that's what I want, the best version of the manga story as seen in anime form be it through Crystal or a future adaptation, it had a slow not so great start with the first season [In my opinion] but improved with the 3rd season proving that it'll hopefully be better as it goes on, if they keep it 1-1 then it will I do have a concern cause it's movie length so some things are ether gonna be condensed or cut off and that may effect the overall impact on the story or characters or scenes.
 
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I don’t have a problem with the senshi x shitennou pairings because that was an idea suggested by the manga itself; the author simply did not have time to explore it. Dark Kingdom arc is very rushed. The author would not pair the 4 heroines with the 4 bad guys for no reason. That being said, It would be nice having a Sailor V movie after Stars to gain a better understanding of the relationship between the Senshi and shitennou.
 
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I don’t have a problem with the senshi x shitennou pairings because that was an idea suggested by the manga itself; the author simply did not have time to explore it. Dark Kingdom arc is very rushed. The author would not pair the 4 heroines with the 4 bad guys for no reason. That being said, It would be nice having a Sailor V movie after Stars to gain a better understanding of the relationship between the Senshi and shitennou.
Unlike my, but I would like it that as well.