We will get to see Haruka and Usagi's kiss?

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Neon Genesis

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This is all assuming Haruka and Michiru have a strictly monogamous relationship. Judging by Michiru's reaction to Haruka flirting with Usagi at the arcade in Act 27, and Haruka's reaction to Michiru flirting with Mamoru, it gave me the impression at least they may have some sort of open relationship arrangement going on. If anything, Michiru seemed to be teasing Haruka about her flirting rather than getting jealous.
 
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#42
SakuyamonX said:
imaginationgirl said:
Exactly. If they're keeping the kiss (which apparently they are, ugh),
That's n

With that said, I never interpreted the kiss as romantic either. I thought of it as symbolic of Uranus and Neptune's extreme loneliness during the Silver Millennium. But I also think it can be handled better, and while I like where the new season is going, I don't fully trust them in smoothing out some of the problems with the kiss. It's going to be very divisive for a lot of fans.

*Regardless if a kiss is romantic or not, it's up to the partner in a relationship to decide whether he or she thinks of it as cheating or not. And unfortunately, we don't know anything to interpret how Michiru felt in regards to it.
Oh dear what I type, I should thought that post out more before I publish it. Have two things to say,first MewMentho said the kiss should developed Haruka and Micheru relationship.As in we should develop Harka s,and Micheru s relationship. And Not Usagi,and Mamoru relationship. I was just explaining Crystal,and the manga is not that kind of series that s going to do that . That was my point,and now for my other point B In all seriousness ,when you think about it the kiss had nothing really to do with he jealousy subplot. Mamoru was not present for the kiss,and neither was Micheru. So neither of them should be upset about it.Because both of them don't know about it .The whole kiss really adds,who are these mysterious people?
 

Darrelkun

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#43
I never liked the kiss between Haruka and Usagi. I'd love if they omitted it out, but I can understand if they leave it in for sticking true to the source.
 

AnnaSartin

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#44
I don't care if they keep it or not. I didn't like it because it's a non-con kiss (Haruka doesn't have the past-life relationship with Usagi that Mamoru did to justify it) and then there's the fact that BOTH these people are in established relationships with others. If Haruka needed a kiss scene in the series it ought to have been with her partner.
 

Seira Hazuki

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#45
imaginationgirl said:
Mamoru was not present for the kiss,and neither was Micheru. So neither of them should be upset about it.Because both of them don't know about it .
How does this make any sense? If my partner kissed someone, and I didn't know anything about it, I would have every right to be upset it. In fact, it would be WORSE if Mamoru or Michiru didn't know about this kiss.
 
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#46
SakuyamonX said:
imaginationgirl said:
Mamoru was not present for the kiss,and neither was Micheru. So neither of them should be upset about it.Because both of them don't know about it .
How does this make any sense? If my partner kissed someone, and I didn't know anything about it, I would have every right to be upset it. In fact, it would be WORSE if Mamoru or Michiru didn't know about this kiss.[/quotete
Oh sorry you misunderstand,I didn't mean they had no right to be upset.(I should put would instead of should)I mean since they don't know about the kiss. None of them would be upset about since,they do not know about it ?
 

Seira Hazuki

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imaginationgirl said:
Oh sorry you misunderstand,I didn't mean they had no right to be upset.(I should put would instead of should)I mean since they don't know about the kiss. None of them would be upset about since,they do not know about it ?
Oh ok, that makes more sense lol.

The thing is though we don't really know what Michiru knows or doesn't know about the kiss. Unfortunately, the manga doesn't show us a lot about their relationship like the original anime. That said, I'd rather think she talked to Michiru about it. I think not telling her would be the equivalent of hiding it, and would be more like cheating? I agree that the kiss wasn't romantic, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't tell her partner about it (even if they're in an open relationship or not).
 

Neo King Rose

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#48
If you ask me I'd prefer if they just let Haruka Kiss Michiru instead
I get that haruka has an infatuation with Usagi but come on both are already in relationships why not kiss your actual lover

now mind you I don't care if Usagi kisses someone else as I dislike her with chiba but Haruka on the other hand is a different story

If Crystal should change something from the manga it ought to be this scene

Still despite how I feel it seems that scene will happen, it's not really that big of a deal it's more like I would have preferred it changed
 

kamen_glider

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#49
I feel like this kiss is a great example of a "main character trumps all" trope. What's important about the kiss is how it makes Usagi feel. And what's important about Haruka flirting with Usagi is that it helps strengthen Usagi's relationship with Mamoru. Haruka and Michiru's relationship in this entire plot isn't even an afterthought, it's played as hardly important at all.
What's particularly offensive about it is that Haruka and Michiru are the only lesbian couple in the entire story.
 
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#51
Ugh I never liked Haruka, this flirting annoyed me in both the anime and manga.

kamen_glider said:
What's particularly offensive about it is that Haruka and Michiru are the only lesbian couple in the entire story.
Just because the relationship with Michiru was hardly important to the story doesn't mean it was cool of Haruka to obsess over Usagi.
 

kamen_glider

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Joaco95, we do need more lesbians P-:. But my point is that it would've been nice if the only lesbian couple in Sailor Moon were written as if their relationship mattered (but Naoko didn't do that). Nope, we just have to be concerned and care about Usagi and Mamoru's relationship ugh

Lavender, I totally agree with you. I think you might've misread what I wrote.

Haha it looks like I didn't articulate myself well.
 

Neon Genesis

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I wonder if we're going to actually get this episode tomorrow. I checked Crunchyroll tonight and a countdown for the next episode hasn't appeared yet and several anime have been delayed this week due to the recent horrible earthquakes they've had in Japan two days in a row. So I wonder if this episode will also get delayed until next week.
 

Seira Hazuki

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Neon Genesis said:
I wonder if we're going to actually get this episode tomorrow. I checked Crunchyroll tonight and a countdown for the next episode hasn't appeared yet and several anime have been delayed this week due to the recent horrible earthquakes they've had in Japan two days in a row. So I wonder if this episode will also get delayed until next week.
I was worried about this too, but it looks like it's listed on the website for Tokyo MX (scroll down to 23:00):

http://s.mxtv.jp/bangumi_pc/

I believe Tokyo MX channels aren't affected. If someone with more knowledge than I could confirm though.
 
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kamen_glider said:
Joaco95, we do need more lesbians P-:. But my point is that it would've been nice if the only lesbian couple in Sailor Moon were written as if their relationship mattered (but Naoko didn't do that). Nope, we just have to be concerned and care about Usagi and Mamoru's relationship ugh
Well, the show it's called Sailor Moon, after all.
 
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kamen_glider said:
What's particularly offensive about it is that Haruka and Michiru are the only lesbian couple in the entire story.
How is that offensive? :?
 

Seira Hazuki

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#57
SakuyamonX said:
Neon Genesis said:
I wonder if we're going to actually get this episode tomorrow. I checked Crunchyroll tonight and a countdown for the next episode hasn't appeared yet and several anime have been delayed this week due to the recent horrible earthquakes they've had in Japan two days in a row. So I wonder if this episode will also get delayed until next week.
I was worried about this too, but it looks like it's listed on the website for Tokyo MX (scroll down to 23:00):

http://s.mxtv.jp/bangumi_pc/

I believe Tokyo MX channels aren't affected. If someone with more knowledge than I could confirm though.
Just to confirm, the episode is airing as normally. Just looked at twitter and I see a bunch of Japanese fans tweeting about the episode.

Still no countdown at Crunchyroll, which is weird, but I guess they wanted to be on the safe side due to the amount of anime being delayed.
 

NJ_

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#58
SakuyamonX said:
Just to confirm, the episode is airing as normally. Just looked at twitter and I see a bunch of Japanese fans tweeting about the episode.
Good to know, the last 2 weeks had been crazy with early spoilers so I was right to log off of Twitter as soon as it started.
 

Seira Hazuki

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NJ_ said:
SakuyamonX said:
Just to confirm, the episode is airing as normally. Just looked at twitter and I see a bunch of Japanese fans tweeting about the episode.
Good to know, the last 2 weeks had been crazy with early spoilers so I was right to log off of Twitter as soon as it started.
Same! It was nice to have an episode w/o spoilers. :)