What are your “forbidden” opinions about the story, characters, franchise, etc. that would get your Sailor Moon fan card revoked?

[Al Evans]

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, I always found weird how none of the senshi talked about their past lives. They completely erased their previous lives, but I guess those memories are painful to them. I remember that Usagi almost had a panic attack when Neptune talked about Saturn and the destruction of the Silver Millennium.

Still, even a comment as small as a "Hey, remember back in Silver Millennium when we..." or Uranus saying something like "I hated being stuck in that palace" woul've been cool, imo.

I wish they did that more too, but I guess the logic was it hurts their ability to be relatable if that were the case. Similarly, I found it weird whenever they talked about what they want to be in the future when they literally already went to the future.

 

[ChampionOfNuggets]

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, I always found weird how none of the senshi talked about their past lives. They completely erased their previous lives, but I guess those memories are painful to them. I remember that Usagi almost had a panic attack when Neptune talked about Saturn and the destruction of the Silver Millennium.

Still, even a comment as small as a "Hey, remember back in Silver Millennium when we..." or Uranus saying something like "I hated being stuck in that palace" woul've been cool, imo.

There's the fact they don't remember any of that stuff. That's probably why they don't ever bring it up. They only have vague memories of their past lives and know what Luna, Artemis, and Queen Serenity told them. They don't have a perfect recollection.

 

[foenyanko]

There's the fact they don't remember any of that stuff. That's probably why they don't ever bring it up. They only have vague memories of their past lives and know what Luna, Artemis, and Queen Serenity told them. They don't have a perfect recollection.

The Outers seem to have a much stronger recollection of what happened. Even remembering the birth of li'l Serenity and thinking of them from afar.

I wish they did that more too, but I guess the logic was it hurts their ability to be relatable if that were the case. Similarly, I found it weird whenever they talked about what they want to be in the future when they literally already went to the future.

I mean, they went to the future 3000. A lot could happen between the then-present and the far-flung future. Also, the Inners didn't interact with their future selves in any way, so they don't really have any insight into who they've become as people.

 

[Al Evans]

The Outers seem to have a much stronger recollection of what happened. Even remembering the birth of li'l Serenity and thinking of them from afar.



I mean, they went to the future 3000. A lot could happen between the then-present and the far-flung future. Also, the Inners didn't interact with their future selves in any way, so they don't really have any insight into who they've become as people.

Yeah but Rei literally asked Usagi what she wanted to be in the future. And like...they just found out exactly what she is going to be in the future

 

[MamoRei4Life]

There's the fact they don't remember any of that stuff. That's probably why they don't ever bring it up. They only have vague memories of their past lives and know what Luna, Artemis, and Queen Serenity told them. They don't have a perfect recollection.

That’s why it always be strange how people say Usagi and Mamoru only fell in love with each other because of their past live memories yet they barely remember plus have too vague of memory that wouldn’t be enough to help them fall for each other.

 

[MamoRei4Life]

I'd argue Tuxedo Mask's transformation is also appealing butt not for the right reasons.

I see what you did there

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

That’s why it always be strange how people say Usagi and Mamoru only fell in love with each other because of their past live memories yet they barely remember plus have too vague of memory that wouldn’t be enough to help them fall for each other.

They might've retained their feelings for each other in their subconscious, tho, i.e. a memory of just the primal feelings, not the detailed past events leading to those feelings.

 

[MamoRei4Life]

They might've retained their feelings for each other in their subconscious, tho, i.e. a memory of just the primal feelings, not the detailed past events leading to those feelings.

Even so, they didn’t do most of their actions and interactions with each other because of a vague memory or subconscious. Can’t fall in love with subconscious/vague memories . They can draw you to the person, but it’s your choice to keep interacting plus causing you to actions such as risk your life for them. They’re going based off what they do know about each other.

 

[Nadia]

My forbidden opinions have already gotten my fan card revoked, for fans to bully and shun me to the point where I'm no longer into Sailor Moon. If you do a deep dive into my past posts, it's all there.

For those who don't want to do the deep dive, here is my bombshell:

I believe that not only was the DiC dub the best version of Sailor Moon period, but I wish the franchise would have globally went into the directions paved by the DiC dub for all future installments and had been fully North Americanized in terms of character designs similar to (although obviously not an exact clone of) the animated portions of the ToonMakers Sailor Moon.

Then we'd have our Moon Cycles, dagnabbit!

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Even so, they didn’t do most of their actions and interactions with each other because of a vague memory or subconscious. Can’t fall in love with subconscious/vague memories . They can draw you to the person, but it’s your choice to keep interacting plus causing you to actions such as risk your life for them. They’re going based off what they do know about each other.

Maybe those subconscious feelings are so intense & strong that they're compelled to take those actions w/o even knowing why themselves? lol

 

[MamoRei4Life]

Maybe those subconscious feelings are so intense & strong that they're compelled to take those actions w/o even knowing why themselves? lol

Nothing suggests that subconscious feelings compelled either one of them to do anything tho besides TM coming to rescue her before Mamoru took control. Once he did, he decided to take Rainbow Crystals more importantly than being allies with SM. That’s definitely something he shouldn’t be doing if he was compelled at that point. Mamoru deciding to risk his life for SM after discovering that she was Usagi over getting the Rainbow crystals back was something he did on his own since he had control on what he did at this point plus he’s making that decision based of what he knows about SM like her being Usagi.

 

[julayla]

Aside a few moments in the manga and side stories, I do not like the fact that the Inner Senshi had been mostly sidelined and out of focus during the manga/Crystaetemo series after their introductions. I feel like they're just there as cheerleaders and giving up on their own lives to serve Sailor Moon like slaves just feels iffy to me. I would gladly prefer the 90s version of them.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Aside a few moments in the manga and side stories, I do not like the fact that the Inner Senshi had been mostly sidelined and out of focus during the manga/Crystaetemo series after their introductions. I feel like they're just there as cheerleaders and giving up on their own lives to serve Sailor Moon like slaves just feels iffy to me. I would gladly prefer the 90s version of them.

The manga/Crystermos Inners feel like those Shocker Combatmen & Stormtroopers, & hence, are also dispensable. lol

 

[JetEternal]

The manga/Crystermos Inners feel like those Shocker Combatmen & Stormtroopers, & hence, are also dispensable. lol

Or the Emperor's Royal Guard from Star Wars. Both organizations are supposed to protect an extremely powerful sovereign and sacrifice their personal lives to do so.
I could see someone in-universe taking issue with this, with Sailor Moon responding that the Inner Sailor Guardians chose this upon themselves.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Or the Emperor's Royal Guard from Star Wars.

At least the Inners have different colors.

 

[JetEternal]

At least the Inners have different colors.

I think the Inners became more "standardized" In their Super and Eternal forms (although it could also be the manga being non-colored). Still not to the point of the Emperor's Guard (who wear all red, except for Shadow Guard who have black armor and Carnor Jax who wears red and black), but I am not a fan of the "more standardized" Super and Eternal Guardians.

 

[Lady Pen]

The ' source material ' or ' original manga ' is clearly a concept development instead of a true comic.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

I think the Inners became more "standardized" In their Super and Eternal forms (although it could also be the manga being non-colored). Still not to the point of the Emperor's Guard (who wear all red, except for Shadow Guard who have black armor and Carnor Jax who wears red and black), but I am not a fan of the "more standardized" Super and Eternal Guardians.

Their Eternal forms are still in different colors in Takeuchi's color illustrations, tho, but if she'd continue the manga after Stars, their next forms could very well be in the same color if the standardization process since their Super forms would continue. lol

 

[ChampionOfNuggets]

Aside a few moments in the manga and side stories, I do not like the fact that the Inner Senshi had been mostly sidelined and out of focus during the manga/Crystaetemo series after their introductions. I feel like they're just there as cheerleaders and giving up on their own lives to serve Sailor Moon like slaves just feels iffy to me. I would gladly prefer the 90s version of them.

How is this a forbidden opinion? This is the popular opinion.

If anything the Crystal adaptation of The Dark Kingdom removing the Inners individual badass moments of killing the Shitennou and Beryl and not adapting the side stories made fans a lot more critical of how underdeveloped they are in both Crystal and the manga

 

[JetEternal]

The manga version of Sailor Venus has no qualms about killing whatsoever. This is also true for Sailor Saturn since her responsibility is death and rebirth.