What Good Guy Should Mamoru Be With?

[FloraKiraraHime]

People are allowed to like or dislike whatever ships they do regardless of it’s canon status. Canon doesn’t always mean well-written, and even if you do ship UsaMamo, people are also allowed to multi-ship. This is all just fiction and shouldn’t be taken that seriously.

There is no rule in the SM fandom that states “you absolutely must ship Usagi and Mamoru with each other only or else you aren’t a real fan!”

Heck even Naoko doesn’t follow that, she ships Usagi with Haruka as well as Mamoru.

Multishipping is good and valid and should be normalized instead of ship wars, just let people like and dislike what they want.

Also Polyamory exists FYI.

I totally agree, there's nothing wrong with disliking canon pairings/ships. There are some canon endgame ships I love and support. Yet, there are other canon endgames I hate. An example of a canon ship I dislike is the "love square" from Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir. As for a canon ship I love, it's Luz/Amity from The Owl House. The two canon ships I brought up aren't related to Sailor Moon, per se, they're the two most prominent examples I could think of.

When a canon endgame ship is forced and has no chemistry, it's all due to poor writing! From professional TV writers, no less. So, I agree that most canon ships aren't well-written. Writing any relationship, specifically a romantic one requires effort. The characters in a relationship have to share common interests. The latter pairing I mentioned earlier were enemies initially, yet they share a common interest: a book starring a good witch named Azura. The former pairing, on the other hand, yeah, their relationship is so forced! As to why it's forced?! The writers primarily rely on fan service from past episodes. Not only that, but the build-up of Miraculous' titular heroes dragged on for more than three seasons.

I multi-ship because I like to explore the dynamic within different pairings. Ship wars are silly, I completely agree.

 

[Tsundereshipper]

Likewise the reason why Naoko Takeuchi had distaste for the R movie was she felt angry that she wasn't able to write the story for the movie. Not because of the Mamoru and Fiore stuff but because she didn't get to write the story.

Has she mentioned this is the reason? If so, where?

 

[MariaTenebre]

Has she mentioned this is the reason? If so, where?

I read something long ago that this was the reason IE that she wanted to have written the movie's storyline though I have found no evidence for your assertion that she dosen't like gay or bi men.

Now I definitely think that she dosen't like men as a whole and is in many ways a Feminine Supremacist in contrast to Western feminism's idea of empowering women but turning them into men because they think femininity is weak. However this stems from things like that she herself has stated that she likes weak men because they were easier to control and also she finds it hard to write men in general. Likewise as some have mentioned before she even did a Sailor Moon screening for I believe one of the Crystal movies where men were only allowed if accompanies by a woman.

I don't think she has an antipathy for gay or bi men but simply for the male sex/gender in general.

 

[kasumigenx]

Again Tsundereshipper where has Naoko Takeuchi stated that she hates gay and bi men? Just because she didn't include them in her story dosen't means she hates gay or bi men and given she loves many male fashion designers who are obviously gay there is no evidence that she hates gay or bi men.

Likewise the reason why Naoko Takeuchi had distaste for the R movie was she felt angry that she wasn't able to write the story for the movie. Not because of the Mamoru and Fiore stuff but because she didn't get to write the story. In fact I believe she was writing The Lover of Princess Kaguya story as the R movie but for some reason Ikuhara's idea was chosen over hers though she did later get the Lover of Princess Kaguya story as the S movie and did design the characters and villains for the SuperS movie in the Materials Collection even though she didn't make a story for them in the manga.

Honestly now that I think about it if Ikuhara's idea for the original SuperS movie was used we may have gotten the Badiane stuff as a Sailor Stars movie hypothetically since this happened before.

Or Badiane becomes Sailor Badiane and becomes a general of Galaxia, the tie in for Sailor Stars is the Sailor V OVA that never materialised.

 

[Clow]

If memory doesn’t fail me, Naoko wrote that (1) she felt sad for not having given any contribution to the story of the R movie because (2) she was busy doing something else. She then (3) proceeded to thank the anime staff for being patient with her as she developed the story that became the S movie. And she wrote about her trip to NASA.

She never said that she disliked the R film; if she had any negative thoughts on Ikuhara, she never made them public, at least to my knowledge.

 

[saintfighteraqua]

If memory doesn’t fail me, Naoko wrote that (1) she felt sad for not having given any contribution to the story of the R movie because (2) she was busy doing something else. She then (3) proceeded to thank the anime staff for being patient with her as she developed the story that became the S movie. And she wrote about her trip to NASA.

She never said that she disliked the R film; if she had any negative thoughts on Ikuhara, she never made them public, at least to my knowledge.

This was what I had read. I've never read that she disliked it but I can definitely understand her being upset at not having the level of involvment she might have preferred.
Story wise, I think it's better than the S movie (and leagues better than SuperS) but it definitely feels less Naoko.

I've also never heard that Naoko even has an aversion to men, gay or otherwise... just that she seems very particular about them in some situations. She's married to one, was obsessed with Mamoru and certain types of guys. I think a lot of times the story of her marriage and things she said about weak men are taken a lot more serious by us than she sees it. There are so many wild rumors about her (like she was poor and friendless until Sailor Moon) that we all get the facts mixed up.

 

[MariaTenebre]

That is what I read too Clow. I think she probably wanted the Lover of Princess Kaguya story to be the R movie but she was also swamped with other stuff and didn't have time to fully flesh it out and finish it so the Fiore stuff was done for the R movie instead and she was later able to finish the Lover of Princess Kaguya story for the S movie.

I will say this if another Sailor V OVA was produced I hope they would tie in the London stuff from the 90s anime and try to make it as canon to the OG series as they can. I could even see the London stuff happening after the Dark Agency stuff when Sailor V is fighting the Dark Kingdom head on.

 

[YuYu Yuichiro]

Maybe, for the sole purpose of making Rei's head explode, Yuuichirou???? Yuuichirou sure was hot on him in the steamy bath in that Usagi the Ninja episode, eh? Eh??? You might even say Yuuichirou had a

Finish the sentence.

 

[MamoRei4Life]

I also think that Mamoru and anime Rei made an excellent match. They had instant chemistry at the amusement park, and while the relationship was somewhat one-sided, Rei wasn't as pushy as most of his love interests. I don't ship other versions of Rei with him, but the old anime Rei and Mamoru should have ended up together. She's the passion and fire, while he's the cold and distant one."

This. They also had enough in common with each other to be realistically into each other while also having differences. Asanuma himself thought that Rei would be more Mamoru’s match in the manga too.

Happy to see Rei is the second most voted for for Mamoru’s romantic partner.

 

[PreguntasDesconocidas]

Rewatching season 1, I think MamoRei could have worked. However, since it was following the manga, there was no way it'd happen. Maybe some kind of SM reboot would explore the possibility.

 

[kasumigenx]

Setsuna: Sailor Pluto has long had an unrequited love for Mamoru's future self, King Endymion. Conversely, Pluto may be Mamoru in drag. Pick a side!

That is only possible after Usagi gives birth to Chibiusa and due to Usagi having the Cosmos Seed though.

 

[Slowpokeking]

Rewatching season 1, I think MamoRei could have worked. However, since it was following the manga, there was no way it'd happen. Maybe some kind of SM reboot would explore the possibility.

Yeah, I also like MamoruXRei.