What head cannons do you have that you have no real evidence for but hold regardless?

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JuanGarcia1982

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Hmmm... as to Queen Serenity's role v that of Ikuko... I always thought of Serena/Usagi loving them both and recognizing them both as her mothers. (SM called the lunar monarch "mother" on screen more than once.) I mean for as much as NQS can't write worth a darn and skips work, she chooses to call herself Queen Serenity and not Queen Usagi. Ikuko's not the one who taught her to use the Silver Crystal... but I like to believe that she taught their girl to use whatever powers or skills she claimed for the cause of right. If SM is a hero, it because of what she learned from both of them.:)

Superman: The Movie (1978)
Jonathon Kent: Son, I raised to know right from wrong. Why you have this power, I don't know but I know this and that is you are here for a reason!
Jor-El: They want to be a great people my son they wish to be, all they need is the light to show them the way. It is for that reason, I gave them you.
 

JuanGarcia1982

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Serenity/Serena/Usagi... They are all our gal's real name in the Optimum dub

In the original anime and manga, Serenity and Usagi are two separate names and never shall the two be mixed. ...Except that in the DiC dub, she was called Serena in both her incarnations. DiC renamed Princess Serenity as Princess Serena and Usagi as just Serena. Except in the Pioneer release of the "R" movie where the team calls her Serenity. A mistake... or is it?

My idea is that in the Moon Kingdom, her name was indeed Princess Serenity, but everyone just called her "Serena" to distinguish her from her mother. What is Serena a but shortened form of her mother's name?

In modern times, Ikuko did indeed name her daughter Usagi but our gal, with faint subconscious memories of her past life, chose to give herself the nickname of Serena.

And speaking of names, our gal did have a last name. She and her royal mother were surnamed Selene.

Luna: Serenity Angelique Selene, are you running off to see Endymion of Earth again! You should be studying!
 

Clow

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#83
I am a big fan of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer“ and I remember when Buffy finally told her mother that she slayed vampires. Her mother threatened to kick her out of the house. The next day Buffy was gone, she ran away from home. ::eeklez:

I wonder how Ikuko would react.
 

JetEternal

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#84
I am a big fan of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer“ and I remember when Buffy finally told her mother that she slayed vampires. Her mother threatened to kick her out of the house. The next day Buffy was gone, she ran away from home. ::eeklez:

I wonder how Ikuko would react.
Unlike Buffy's mother, I think Ikuko Tsukino would be impressed by her daughter fighting off the various nasties and entities of Chaos plaguing the universe.
 

JuanGarcia1982

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Worth saying that in Mama Ikuko's last appearance in the manga... its hinted that she does know. Or least suspects it. Usagi is getting ready for the big final battle and leaves Luna and the cats with her mother. I think I remember shortly after the Dark Kingdom arc, there was a scene where Ikuko is reading the newspaper and wonders, something about Usagi is different know but what?

I will say this for the manga, she never learned the secret but at least she knows somethings up.

 
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JuanGarcia1982

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I am a big fan of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer“ and I remember when Buffy finally told her mother that she slayed vampires. Her mother threatened to kick her out of the house. The next day Buffy was gone, she ran away from home. ::eeklez:

I wonder how Ikuko would react.

Unlike Buffy's mother, I think Ikuko Tsukino would be impressed by her daughter fighting off the various nasties and entities of Chaos plaguing the universe.
Thumbs to the both of you.

I do sometimes think of Buffy the Vampire Slayer as a grim dark version of Sailor Moon. An ordinary blond 14-year-old schoolgirl is happily living her life when one day this random stranger shows up and tells her that monsters are real, and she is going to fight them no matter what. She gets a group of friends and flirts with a mystery man who fancies himself her protector... but she never tells her mother the secret. Heck she even has a mini me who was retconned into her family via mind control and magic. Fighting evil by moonlight and winning love by later moonlight (because y'know Angel's a vampire) she is the one named Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

But there are differences, the biggest of them is that there is the use, or non-use, the Masquerade and the Weirdness Censor/Sunnydale Syndrome.

As summarized from TV Tropes, The Masquerade is that the show is nominally set in the real world, and yes the mundane aspects of it are... mundane. But hidden below it all, what's really going on is far different. An entire world hiding right there in plain sight. It gets its name from Vampire the Masquerade, an RPG about vampires being hunted by humanity and how they survive the hunt by hiding, infiltrating and controlling society from the shadows. Indeed, as far back as the original Dracula novel, Van Helsing said that the vampire's greatest strength is that people do not believe he exists.

As for The Weirdness Censor it was originally called Sunnydale Syndrome because as early as the first Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode, the vampires in full bat face attack the school and the next day witnesses to the event say it must have been rival gangs fighting over turf. Buffy's mentor Giles just says, "They don't believe because they don't want to believe. They explain away what they can and forget what they can't."

Thus, when Buffy's mother learns not only that monsters are real but that her daughter is fighting them... she is horrified. She learns that her entire world is a lie and goes into meltdown.

Sailor Moon on the other hand... there is no Masquerade. I mean sure the Sailors don't give interviews or pause for selfies... but there's no real attempt to hide anything. There's no secret conspiracy. People see the Senshi fighting the monsters, people hear their speeches, people know what's going on. Maybe Joe Civilian has no accurate information about the Sailors, but they know they exist.

And that goes the same for the monsters. Sure, the monsters tend to disintegrate after being defeated and their victims often faint. A skeptic might say, "No body and so-and-so was asleep half the time, what proof is that?" Maybe, but it's kind of hard to stay in denial when at the end of the story arc, the villains go all out with all their monsters against the Sailors and don't give a damn if anyone sees!

So yes, if Mama Tsukino were to ever learn the secret, she would go into an emotional tailspin but... unlike Buffy's mom, Serena/Usagi's mother knows that monsters are real. She knows Sailor Moon is real. And yes, she knows that Sailor Moon is a hero. More than a few times did Sailor Moon personally save her Earth family from monster attacks.

So not only would Mama Tsukino not be left as messed up by learning the secret... she would likely be quicker to embrace and cheer her own daughter than Buffy's mother was hers.

Mama Tsukino: Young lady, you lied to me. You snuck out for years in the middle of the night, doing what trying to get yourself killed?! And you mind controlled me into thinking Rini/Chibi-Usa was my niece. Mind controlling your own mother! I am very disappointed in you.
Serena/Usagi: I'm sorry mom! It was the only way I could keep you safe...
Mama Tsukino: Yes. And for that... for saving us all, for those times you saved me and your father and brother... I'm so proud of you! Don't think you're getting off easy. You're grounded young lady. But... no matter what else happens, I will always be there. So come give Mama a hug!
Yeah. :)
 

JetEternal

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Neo-Queen Serenity's hair color has been depicted very differently between media.
I've seen it as blonde in the anime and white/silver in the manga.

My take: The white/silver hair color arises from the use of Lambda Power. It also explains why Sailor Cosmos, who is also a Lambda Power user, has white/silver hair.

This also allows for 2-stage fights since Neo-Queen Serenity has absorbed the power of Sailor Moon's Sailor Transformations into her base form--so she cannot transform into the Sailor forms anymore.
"This isn't even my final form" --> Hair turns white as she starts using Lambda power.
 

Zyvik

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The Shitennou's gems are their star seeds, which means they can be revived. Also, Kunzite and Zoisite were a couple in the manga as well.
 

Clow

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Although I am not a fan of PGSM, I have the impression that PGSM made a subtle attempt to bring back some characters of the manga and anime. ^_^'

Motoki = a combined version of two characters, Motoki and Umino
Dark Mercury = Black Lady/Mistress9
Mars and Venus = Uranus and Neptune
Sailor Luna = Chibimoon
Princess Sailor Moon = Sailor Cosmos (both want to destroy the world)
Usagi in Act 0 = she dresses as Kousagi from parallel Sailor Moon
 

JetEternal

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Although I am not a fan of PGSM, I have the impression that PGSM made a subtle attempt to bring back some characters of the manga and anime. ^_^'

Motoki = a combined version of two characters, Motoki and Umino
Dark Mercury = Black Lady/Mistress9
Mars and Venus = Uranus and Neptune
Sailor Luna = Chibimoon
Princess Sailor Moon = Sailor Cosmos (both want to destroy the world)
Usagi in Act 0 = she dresses as Kousagi from parallel Sailor Moon
I saw Metalia Endymion as a parallel to either Anime Galaxia (trying to seal the main villain inside them) or Mistress 9 (A Daimon possessing an important ally).
 
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Kunzite didn't yell out refresh in the 90's anime because he knew his life with zoisite was a lie. He couldn't bear the thought of their love being a lie. Kunzite was already heartbroken so bringing back his memories would have traumatized him. So he would rather die with the lie.