What was Sailor Saturn life in the Silver Millenium. Did she spend the time slumbering in her planet atmosphere?

[Rika-Chicchi]

The plotholes & questions/problems mentioned in the above posts all point to that Takeuchi, or the power that be subconsciously influencing her on how to write the story, hasn't told us the whole truth, but those fragments of truth allowed to be shown in the story still seems to allude to that QS, w/e her origin, might actually be a villainess who attempted to control & rule the entire universe, when we try to connect those fragments w/ the missing jigsaw puzzle pieces we hypothesize to enable the various stuff in the story to add up &, hence, make sense of the whole picture.

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

At this point, I kind of wish that the manga was rewritten. It's not even just for the inconsistency, but for the fact that the manga lack a lot of slice of life/character development and that it's too fast paced. The 90's anime was so good for this reason. Takeuchi could milk so much SM and I would gladly eat it.

The plotholes & questions/problems mentioned in the above posts all point to that Takeuchi, or the power that be subconsciously influencing her on how to write the story, hasn't told us the whole truth, but those fragments of truth allowed to be shown in the story still seems to allude to that QS, w/e her origin, might actually be a villainess who attempted to control & rule the entire universe, when we try to connect those fragments w/ the missing jigsaw puzzle pieces we hypothesize to enable the various stuff in the story to add up &, hence, make sense of the whole picture.

True, it's kind of like Harry Potter. I swear either all the adult are incompetent or plain evil if you analyze the lore. For SM I'm kind in the team that think that QS was quite a good ruler, but probably committed a lot of wrong. I genuinely believe that the senshi were human weapons.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

True, it's kind of like Harry Potter. I swear either all the adult are incompetent or plain evil if you analyze the lore. For SM I'm kind in the team that think that QS was quite a good ruler, but probably committed a lot of wrong. I genuinely believe that the senshi were human weapons.

So she could be the one doing bad things w/ good intentions? That'd also work to make the story add up & enable us to see the whole thing.

 

[Clow]

Once you have a compelling season like S, the expectation—I think—is that you will have to come up with something better. Bring back the outer senshi. Show us where Sailor Saturn is. My suspicion is that TOEI and the sponsors completely ignored Takeuchi and forcibly attempted to turn SuperS in the “Precure“ of its time (to sell toys).

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

So she could be the one doing bad things w/ good intentions? That'd also work to make the story add up & enable us to see the whole thing.

Yea, she probably not evil, but she certainly done bad thing for the common good. Take for the example the Senshi, we know that the inner and pluto were assigned their duty when they were toddler/young child. Considering this fact, we can imagine that it's the same for the outer. So we can imagine that they were raised all there life to do their duty (Kind of need to train to get good too). Considering this, I'm quite sure that at least the outer (especially Saturn) had bad life. Take Saturn, she was probably raised knowing that she would die (Fanon theory: Maybe she rebelled against the idea of dying and it's why she was put to sleep). I don't know how powerful the senshi are against an army, but we can assume that they are worth a lot. As I see it, the senshi are a replacement for an army. They are the one that need to protect the kingdom for external and internal threat. For QS they were probably a justifiable sacrifice.


Edit: It could make quite a good arc, if Usagi learned that her mother wasn't perfect and how ruling sometime need you to make hard choice. I would read hundred of chapter on how Usagi became Neo-QS. Well that me, I really like the whole kingdom building genre.

 

[Clow]

But yea, why would the inner have castle???? Well maybe the castles are somehow used as focaliser point for the senshi power (like lens or something). It would make sense considering that they used them for their Eternal form.

Damburite/Adonis reveals to Minako in Sailor V (before her destined mission took her to the moon):

“In my past life, I didn’t hold any rank or title. I was a lowly soldier from a remote region. While you lived out your life in a grand palace overlooking planet Venus. The chosen soldier, shining brightly…”

From Damburite’s monologue, we can infer that the remaining senshi lived in their castles, too, just like Sailor Venus did.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Yea, she probably not evil, but she certainly done bad thing for the common good. Take for the example the Senshi, we know that the inner and pluto were assigned their duty when they were toddler/young child. Considering this fact, we can imagine that it's the same for the outer. So we can imagine that they were raised all there life to do their duty (Kind of need to train to get good too). Considering this, I'm quite sure that at least the outer (especially Saturn) had bad life. Take Saturn, she was probably raised knowing that she would die (Fanon theory: Maybe she rebelled against the idea of dying and it's why she was put to sleep). I don't know how powerful the senshi are against an army, but we can assume that they are worth a lot. As I see it, the senshi are a replacement for an army. They are the one that need to protect the kingdom for external and internal threat. For QS they were probaby a justifiable sacrifice.

But she seems to have failed in the end w/ the Earth, which for some reasons she could never have really conquered, rebelling & destroying her queendom, which'd only be revived in the very far future by NQS in the form of Crystal Tokyo, which'd also be established on the Earth.

 

[sailormoongalaxy]

The plotholes & questions/problems mentioned in the above posts all point to that Takeuchi, or the power that be subconsciously influencing her on how to write the story, hasn't told us the whole truth, but those fragments of truth allowed to be shown in the story still seems to allude to that QS, w/e her origin, might actually be a villainess who attempted to control & rule the entire universe, when we try to connect those fragments w/ the missing jigsaw puzzle pieces we hypothesize to enable the various stuff in the story to add up &, hence, make sense of the whole picture.

QS, Princess Serenity, NQS, Sailor Cosmos (NQS) share the same taste for power. Beautiful dictators.
When you read the manga, when you watch SMC, you see this side. Bend to my ideals, otherwise I will kill you without hesitation.

The Moon Dynasty holds the power, the others must bow. The real villain of the story is not Chaos, but simply the Moon Dynasty.

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

Damburite/Adonis reveals to Minako in Sailor V (before her destined mission took her to the moon):

“In my past life, I didn’t hold any rank or title. I was a lowly soldier from a remote region. While you lived out your life in a grand palace overlooking planet Venus. The chosen soldier, shining brightly…”

From Damburite’s monologue, we can infer that the remaining senshi lived in their castles, too, just like Sailor Venus did.

Arghh, making sense of the lore without dismissing a part of it, is so confusing (The irl reason is probably retcon, but it's fun to try to make the lore fit ) So the inner were living in their castle, but at the same time they were near PS to protect her. Either the guy is biased and is an unreliable narrator (because it what he think) or they were constantly teleporting.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Arghh, making sense of the lore without dismissing a part of it, is so confusing (The irl reason is probably retcon, but it's fun to try to make the lore fit ) So the inner were living in their castle, but at the same time they were near PS to protect her. Either the guy is biased and is an unreliable narrator (because it what he think) or they were constantly teleporting.

So they're kinda like cosmopolitans of the solar system. lol

 

[Clow]

Arghh, making sense of the lore without dismissing a part of it, is so confusing (The irl reason is probably retcon, but it's fun to try to make the lore fit ) So the inner were living in their castle, but at the same time they were near PS to protect her. Either the guy is biased and is an unreliable narrator (because it what he think) or they were constantly teleporting.

Damburite/Adonis tells Minako that she lived in her grand palace “before her destined mission took her to the moon.”

During the war between the people of the moon and the Earth, Adonis/Damburite was put under the supervision of Endymion… he was finally able to see Sailor Venus and he hoped that she would notice him and become his lover.

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

QS, Princess Serenity, NQS, Sailor Cosmos (NQS) share the same taste for power. Beautiful dictators.
When you read the manga, when you watch SMC, you see this side. Bend to my ideals, otherwise I will kill you without hesitation.

The Moon Dynasty holds the power, the others must bow. The real villain of the story is not Chaos, but simply the Moon Dynasty.

I wouldn't be mad if that was the case. I really love the false utopia genre. Also democracy for the win, I didn't elect her. It not because she have power that she need to rule us. To quote Monty python "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government"

 

[Clow]

 

[Clow]

Confessedly, the light of the silver crystal brought a lot of problems… but that is because darkness feels attracted to light and vice-versa.

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

Well, that make sense. I really need to reread sailor V. To be fair, it not like she spend a lot of time living in that castle. She probably spend more time living on the moon.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Confessedly, the light of the silver crystal brought a lot of problems… but that is because darkness feels attracted to light and vice-versa.

Hence the shipping of Cosmos × Chaos.

 

[Clow]

Well, that make sense. I really need to reread sailor V. To be fair, it not like she spend a lot of time living in that castle. She probably spend more time living on the moon.

Saturn, in contrast, came out of her castle, if she lived there at all… with the sole purpose to destroy the remnants of the Silver Millennium and kill the remaining outer senshi.

 

[Clow]

Hence the shipping of Cosmos × Chaos.

Light and darkness emanating from the same source, the Galaxy Cauldron.

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

Saturn, in contrast, came out of her castle, if she lived there at all… with the sole purpose to destroy the remnants of the Silver Millennium and kill the remaining outer senshi.

Well the outer also probably lived full time in their castle. Well except Pluto

I must ask, but do we know if Saturn power was only used once? I can't remember if it's the case. I ask that, because she would make a great weapon against invading army/empire.

 

[TheLonelyWarrior]

Hence the shipping of Cosmos × Chaos.

Wait Cosmos × Chaos?!! Well I guess I need to go read some fanfics...