Would Sailor Moon be better off without Naoko?

[sapphire91]

The new artists of the 80s style are better associated with the early 90s like CLAMP, Takeuchi, and Saito while the veterans kept their styles during that time.

Similar styles are nothing new Chiho Saitou and Chie Shinohara also have somewhat similar styles. Shinohara never really changed her style

 

[kasumigenx]

Similar styles are nothing new Chiho Saitou and Chie Shinohara also have somewhat similar styles. Shinohara never really changed her style

Chiho Saito

Mokona - CLAMP

Naoko Takeuchi

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Most 70s and 80s were exactly like Candy artwise. Georgie, Lady Lynn, Alpen Rose etc. I love the artstyle although sone people find the eyes a bit much.

Those styles were the standard ones of shojo manga at the time. They're based on the (exaggerated - especially the eyes) Caucasian look, which's the aesthetic preference of the time, as the typical Japanese or East Asian look (small eyes, flat nose, etc.) back then was seen as ugly. And it wasn't just the face, but the typical (short & thick) limbs as well, hence those exaggeratedly long & thin legs & arms in those manga.

 

[ultramarine]

Silver Millennium and Golden Kingdom's inspiretion maybe from Tezuka Osamu's Princess Knight, Sapphire and Prince Franz's homelands called Silver Kingdom and Golden Kingdom.

Mamoru's apperrance is quite close to Rock Holmes/Makube Rokuro, Tezuka's villain protagonist. (This character was anime version of Prince Franz)

(Probably Bukkira ni Yoroshiku version is closest in personality. Here he is rarely not badguy. I love this version)

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

^ Takeuchi, like everyone of her generation, grew up w/ Tezuka's manga/anime.

 

[ultramarine]

^ Takeuchi, like everyone of her generation, grew up w/ Tezuka's manga/anime.

Yes, I thought so but It seems Naoko said Mamoru's model was a popstar called Higashiyama Noriyuki. (Sorry link is in Chinese) However, still thinking of they are similar.. (^^;

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

^ Well, she's also been a young girl, hence like every young girl of her age back then, she was a fan of J-idols too. lol

 

[kasumigenx]

Those styles were the standard ones of shojo manga at the time. They're based on the (exaggerated - especially the eyes) Caucasian look, which's the aesthetic preference of the time, as the typical Japanese or East Asian look (small eyes, flat nose, etc.) back then was seen as ugly. And it wasn't just the face, but the typical (short & thick) limbs as well, hence those exaggeratedly long & thin legs & arms in those manga.

80s manga and early 90s manga are generally more detailed and rounder than their Post Evangelion(1995 to 2005) and 70s counterparts, this trend returned after 2005.

The theme of Stars and Dream was in line with Eva actually.

 

[heerama]

I'm very curious about Ikuhara's own Sailor Moon fanfiction ideas so why not?

 

[FloraKiraraHime]

Those styles were the standard ones of shojo manga at the time. They're based on the (exaggerated - especially the eyes) Caucasian look, which's the aesthetic preference of the time, as the typical Japanese or East Asian look (small eyes, flat nose, etc.) back then was seen as ugly. And it wasn't just the face, but the typical (short & thick) limbs as well, hence those exaggeratedly long & thin legs & arms in those manga.

The 70's has a pretty style.

 

[B sizzle]

80s manga and early 90s manga are generally more detailed and rounder than their Post Evangelion(1995 to 2005) and 70s counterparts, this trend returned after 2005.

The theme of Stars and Dream was in line with Eva actually.

Stars in the manga seemed a lot like the end of Eva, the point they brought the main characters back to life and had a wedding is where it changed tone.

I am surprised I never heard about this arc until almost 25 years later. You would think it would be mentioned more than it is considering all the dark stuff that went on in it. Lol

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

I am surprised I never heard about this arc until almost 25 years later. You would think it would be mentioned more than it is considering all the dark stuff that went on in it. Lol

Probably because Stars (90s anime) has never been aired on TV in the West.

 

[B sizzle]

Probably because Stars (90s anime) has never been aired on TV in the West.

That is a good theory, no a great theory and probably damn true. I forgot the anime version of stars never has been on tv, only steaming. Also the sub is only steaming, not the dub.

I will probably buy episode 200 dubbed for two dollars on Amazon , but the watch the rest on Hulu subbed.

Personally I think you hit the nail on the head. Hence why you hear about the dream arc for the manga all the time because it was done on tv in the anime and the final dub on Hulu for it. Honestly your post is so amazing I wish I could liked it twice.

 

[Lady Pen]

Probably because Stars (90s anime) has never been aired on TV in the West.

As far as I know Stars was aired in Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, and all South America countries. I think only France, english and nordic countries of the West stopped at SuperS or even before. Am I wrong?

 

[sapphire91]

As far as I know Stars was aired in Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, and all South America countries. I think only France, english and nordic countries of the West stopped at SuperS or even before. Am I wrong?

I think Hungary also stopped at some point. Interesting thing is the whole anime aired in Turkey in the 90s with from what I know no cuts and very few changes in the script, which is a big deal for Islamic country. Sure, they changed Zoisite to female and tuned down Haru/Michi stuff, but Starts are what they are. Then in 2014 they re-aired Sailor Moon R based on the DIC dub Atavism

 

[NJ_]

As far as I know Stars was aired in Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, and all South America countries. I think only France, english and nordic countries of the West stopped at SuperS or even before. Am I wrong?

You got it

France didn't get Stars until the Kaze DVDs and North America didn't until the Viz sets.....and only Canada is streaming the dub.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

As far as I know Stars was aired in Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, and all South America countries. I think only France, english and nordic countries of the West stopped at SuperS or even before. Am I wrong?

Thx for the info - so I guess it's only those Western countries, most notably the US, which haven't got Stars on TV.

 

[Tsundereshipper]

I think Hungary also stopped at some point. Interesting thing is the whole anime aired in Turkey in the 90s with from what I know no cuts and very few changes in the script, which is a big deal for Islamic country. Sure, they changed Zoisite to female and tuned down Haru/Michi stuff, but Starts are what they are. Then in 2014 they re-aired Sailor Moon R based on the DIC dub Atavism

Speaking of which I’m full-blooded Hungarian myself (all 4 grandparents) so this is interesting to hear. Did Hungary ever get an eventual full release of either the 90’s anime or manga though?

I’m just imagining some alternate timeline now where Hitler and the Nazis didn’t happen and I ended up being born in Hungary like I was supposed to and I could very well not have ended up a Sailor Moon fan if history just went a little differently, crazy to think about!

Pluto works in mysterious ways.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

I’m just imagining some alternate timeline now where Hitler and the Nazis didn’t happen and I ended up being born in Hungary like I was supposed to and I could very well not have ended up a Sailor Moon fan if history just went a little differently, crazy to think about!

Another you in another universe might've already been living like that. lol

 

[sapphire91]

Speaking of which I’m full-blooded Hungarian myself (all 4 grandparents) so this is interesting to hear. Did Hungary ever get an eventual full release of either the 90’s anime or manga though?

I’m just imagining some alternate timeline now where Hitler and the Nazis didn’t happen and I ended up being born in Hungary like I was supposed to and I could very well not have ended up a Sailor Moon fan if history just went a little differently, crazy to think about!

Pluto works in mysterious ways.

All I know is their dub was based on the French one, but I have no idea if they stopped after SuperS or prior to that.